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SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
March 28 2011 03:23 GMT
#81
ok just crashed guess it wasn't about ram timing -_-
im mad now
Speight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia152 Posts
March 28 2011 03:33 GMT
#82
Well it went longer without a crash this time than last, which, given the error, still leads me to believe its the ram. Still running at 1.575V? Have you got any other ddr3 ram around you could try out?
SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:20:52
March 28 2011 04:20 GMT
#83
i told ya TT
I have 2 of 4GB
I tried using only 1 and crashed
tried the other one and crashed
so do u think two of them are broken? no i don't have any other ram to try

It was running as 1.488V when i checked on BIOS
which is 1.5 i think
SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
March 28 2011 04:24 GMT
#84
On March 28 2011 11:49 tzagear wrote:
3 suggestions come to mind based on those I have helped with similar issues (including the 0xc..5).

First: Windows Updates, including custom.
Many times microsoft will surprise us and fix problems they have previously stated as being not their responsibility to fix. This leads to developers to hotfix the issue which can then have adverse effects when on the whim of Bill they decide to instead fix said issue. It is an obnoxious dance you may be stuck in the middle of. After this I would still make sure nothing funky is going on with windows. I instinctually blame windows, so I would also check sfc (system file checker) if you think there is any chance there could be something funky from windows.


Second: Hard Drive, current state.
Start by checking the SMART, (for those unfamiliar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_S.M.A.R.T._tools ) your model of HDD seems to have a higher than normal return rate. If that is looking solid, I would run chkdsk.

Third: Computer Management (Manage from right click my computer)
Watch event viewer listing and performance when things are going amiss. These can give you clues as to related issues.



I don't understand at all what u r saying

Im not too good with computer just only basics

after i saw the link i was so confused
mav451
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:55:19
March 28 2011 04:29 GMT
#85
Regarding SMART data, run CrystalDiskInfo. I mentioned this in my earlier posts - this is just to rule out the hard drive.
http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

See if you have anything under the Raw Values column for
05 - Reallocated Sectors
07 - Seek Error Rate
and C4 through C8.

I'm pretty sure you won't find anything, but this is just to rule it out.

On March 28 2011 13:20 SeleCT wrote:
i told ya TT
I have 2 of 4GB
I tried using only 1 and crashed
tried the other one and crashed
so do u think two of them are broken? no i don't have any other ram to try

It was running as 1.488V when i checked on BIOS
which is 1.5 i think


Thought I'd reword this. Considering you've been crashing with both sticks in, and each stick individually, I am hesistant to still point to the RAM. Normally this would have me thinking you need to bump vNB or VTT (called system agent voltage on MSI boards), but I dunno how important that is on the p67. The other thing is we have already considerably relaxed the timings from cas 6 to cas 9. I suppose we could still try 1.55vDIMM, but it seems somewhat moot considering the relaxed timings.

Are you still overclocking your CPU currently?
With no power comes no responsibility?
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
March 28 2011 04:29 GMT
#86
On March 28 2011 13:20 SeleCT wrote:
i told ya TT
I have 2 of 4GB
I tried using only 1 and crashed
tried the other one and crashed
so do u think two of them are broken? no i don't have any other ram to try

It was running as 1.488V when i checked on BIOS
which is 1.5 i think

As mentioned, you should go into the BIOS and try turning the RAM voltage up a bit.
SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
March 28 2011 05:11 GMT
#87
On March 28 2011 13:29 mav451 wrote:
Regarding SMART data, run CrystalDiskInfo. I mentioned this in my earlier posts - this is just to rule out the hard drive.
http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDiskInfo/index-e.html

See if you have anything under the Raw Values column for
05 - Reallocated Sectors
07 - Seek Error Rate
and C4 through C8.

I'm pretty sure you won't find anything, but this is just to rule it out.

Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:20 SeleCT wrote:
i told ya TT
I have 2 of 4GB
I tried using only 1 and crashed
tried the other one and crashed
so do u think two of them are broken? no i don't have any other ram to try

It was running as 1.488V when i checked on BIOS
which is 1.5 i think


Thought I'd reword this. Considering you've been crashing with both sticks in, and each stick individually, I am hesistant to still point to the RAM. Normally this would have me thinking you need to bump vNB or VTT (called system agent voltage on MSI boards), but I dunno how important that is on the p67. The other thing is we have already considerably relaxed the timings from cas 6 to cas 9. I suppose we could still try 1.55vDIMM, but it seems somewhat moot considering the relaxed timings.

Are you still overclocking your CPU currently?



I don't think its board problem either u know i had a crash with my old board too (intel atax miniboard)
SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
March 28 2011 05:15 GMT
#88
ok i just increased voltage to 1.550 lets see what happen..
Namkung
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada151 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:37:51
March 28 2011 05:26 GMT
#89
i've been getting the exact same problem.
if i play 5 games one of them would be like a fatal error .
im pretty sure this is something with the patch =/
i've tried just about everything to make sure nothing is wrong on my end (hardware wise)

edit :
it's just extremely weird that this is only happening to some people and some are not having any problems;
i don't mean to sound so negative but judging by the fact that other people are also having this same problem, i don't think doing anything on your end will change anything.
SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:57:23
March 28 2011 05:43 GMT
#90
ok.. I thought my laptop is fine but i just got crashed playing on my laptop ( first time)

holy shit....

EDIT : and crashed again right after the first crash. now im crashing everygame with laptop too


How do i practise for mlg.. rofl
Neosta2
Profile Joined March 2010
China117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 06:26:23
March 28 2011 06:02 GMT
#91
Hey select, it might be your recently installed program or windows update.

Try to system restore it to like 2 months back or as far back as it will let you. Don't install any windows update or any programs after restoring the system - just starcraft 2. Then play like you normally do. If everything works, its probably a program that's causing the problem.

To system restore on windows 7: Right click on My Computer->Properties->System Protection->System Restore

Hope this helps.

Edit: I also just build my sandy ridge 2500k with Asus p67 board though. No starcraft 2 crash for me. I haven't updated my service park though. Or rather, it won't let me update it, lol.

Edit2: Make sure to backup your files!
My country is the world and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine
CKone
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom50 Posts
March 28 2011 06:15 GMT
#92
come to think of it ive had some problems on my pc since windows 7 service pack 1, mostly with firefox not sc2 but as this was pretty recent mabye that is what is causing problems on some peoples systems. just a thought
there is no such thing as hard or easy there is only practice, difficulty is a perception
CKone
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom50 Posts
March 28 2011 06:20 GMT
#93
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Windows Update\View update history go here and see if an update occured roughly when it started crashing. if so click "installed updates" and uninstall that update
there is no such thing as hard or easy there is only practice, difficulty is a perception
Neosta2
Profile Joined March 2010
China117 Posts
March 28 2011 06:28 GMT
#94
If this works for you, I want 90% of your prize money for major tournaments for a year.
My country is the world and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine
SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
March 28 2011 06:48 GMT
#95
i don't think it is related to windows update ... or maybe
Neosta2
Profile Joined March 2010
China117 Posts
March 28 2011 07:00 GMT
#96
Just system restore. It should work. it will return your computer to when it was working.

It's unlikely that it will kill your hard drive, but in case just save some really really really extremely important thing on a flash drive or email to yourself. then do it.
My country is the world and my religion is to do good. - Thomas Paine
SeleCT
Profile Joined August 2010
United States106 Posts
March 28 2011 07:45 GMT
#97
there was no time it was working all i did was format reinstall window 7 and install sc2 and play

the bad thing about window 7 is that I set it to "never update windows"

i turn off my computer and it was updating automatically when i click "shut down" button.

I really don't like window 7
Speight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia152 Posts
March 28 2011 07:50 GMT
#98
From the other reports I'm hearing described it could just be a problem with the latest patch on sc2. Increase the ram voltage slightly to ensure a little more stability (ram wise) but I do not recommend going over 1.575v (as does Intel) however there have been reports from a large number of people running a higher voltage and not having a problem.

Other than that I don't think the problem is on your end and you may have to wait for Blizzard or Microsoft to make a fix.
weaknurse
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia320 Posts
March 28 2011 07:59 GMT
#99
Select, I have the same problems. I have posted about it numerous times on SC2 Tech Support forums and they have been of no help so far. Will post back here if I find a solution.

I highly doubt that thousands of people's hardware is the problem all of a sudden after this patch, I believe Blizzard have broken something and this is all a fault on their end they must fix.
CKone
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom50 Posts
March 28 2011 08:05 GMT
#100
yea if its happening on your laptop and desktop then has to be software really, and if its only sc2 thats doin it prob sc2 thats the problem
there is no such thing as hard or easy there is only practice, difficulty is a perception
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