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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 06 2015 20:23 GMT
#4101
I'd imagine its going to be exactly the same as the 302, but with different internals. If that's the case I still feel the front sides are tapered a little too much (both inward and vertically) for my taste, but that being said I've been using the 302 as my main for many months now.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 23:06:20
March 06 2015 22:59 GMT
#4102
I know nothing about mice. so Is it fair to assume that you'd want a different mouse for fps games as opposed to moba's?

and I'm possibly looking for a new mouse. I use claw grip. have a logitech G500 that feels a little small. budget is flexible. sensor I don't know enough about to have a preference.

I play league, CSGO and possibly mmos in the future. don't know what angle snapping is.

other stuff is I guess as light as possible with maybe 1 or two extra buttons, or more if I need them which I fon't know if I do
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
March 07 2015 00:07 GMT
#4103
It all depends on how you use your mouse in the end. If you are like me, you can use the same mouse for any game type as long as it has the following traits
  • reliable tracking capabilities
  • conforms to what I need shape and weight/wise
  • can reach a high enough ips to deal with fps games like counter strike
I'm somewhat of a oddity in that for fps i need to have my mouse still have it's shit together at ~80cm/360° but I also need a smaller and lighter one as well. This is the holy grail of mice for a lot of people and it's never been got quite right. That being said... there are people who play SC with a Deathadder or 502 and prefer those mice for their own various personal needs.

If you're interested there's a link to a thread in the OP that would help with terminology and whatnot. And on a side note... wtf it's been 3 years already.
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Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
March 07 2015 00:37 GMT
#4104
On March 07 2015 09:07 wo1fwood wrote:
It all depends on how you use your mouse in the end. If you are like me, you can use the same mouse for any game type as long as it has the following traits
  • reliable tracking capabilities
  • conforms to what I need shape and weight/wise
  • can reach a high enough ips to deal with fps games like counter strike
I'm somewhat of a oddity in that for fps i need to have my mouse still have it's shit together at ~80cm/360° but I also need a smaller and lighter one as well. This is the holy grail of mice for a lot of people and it's never been got quite right. That being said... there are people who play SC with a Deathadder or 502 and prefer those mice for their own various personal needs.

If you're interested there's a link to a thread in the OP that would help with terminology and whatnot. And on a side note... wtf it's been 3 years already.


thanks for the info
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 01:38:50
March 07 2015 01:38 GMT
#4105
On March 07 2015 05:23 wo1fwood wrote:
I'd imagine its going to be exactly the same as the 302, but with different internals. If that's the case I still feel the front sides are tapered a little too much (both inward and vertically) for my taste, but that being said I've been using the 302 as my main for many months now.



Different cable and feet too. Supposedly less cable resistance and more stability for not having the mouse lean to one side when swiping
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
March 07 2015 01:56 GMT
#4106
80cm/360°

Holy shitsnacks that's a Guardian-like sens you've got there
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
March 07 2015 02:04 GMT
#4107
80 is like god tier accurate, but it's beyond the point where i feel even with a bit of practice i'm dragging mouse around and not being as mobile as i should be. Same with ~500dpi on 1080 for starcraft and osu, it's good but hard to make it work in my experience

i do know a few other people that use 80cm/360, but i'm more for ~40-60 myself for that reason
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 02:41:22
March 07 2015 02:40 GMT
#4108
also I need something with high dps

i prefer logitech or razer but don't mind any companies. tried a death adder didn't like it.
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 02:46:15
March 07 2015 02:42 GMT
#4109
~2k dpi is a very high sens

3310 is ~5k dpi, 3366 is ~12k dpi, no matter what you buy you're probably gonna be using like 10-20% of the maximum sensitivity
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 02:54:53
March 07 2015 02:51 GMT
#4110
On March 07 2015 11:42 Cyro wrote:
~2k dpi is a very high sens

3310 is ~5k dpi, 3366 is ~12k dpi, no matter what you buy you're probably gonna be using like 10-20% of the maximum sensitivity


okay thanks. maybe i just need to figure out how to get the mouse I have to work better

someone want to give me a quick rundown on what these are and what they should be set at?

[image loading]
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
March 07 2015 02:56 GMT
#4111
On March 07 2015 11:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 11:42 Cyro wrote:
~2k dpi is a very high sens

3310 is ~5k dpi, 3366 is ~12k dpi, no matter what you buy you're probably gonna be using like 10-20% of the maximum sensitivity


okay thanks. maybe i just need to figure out how to get the mouse I have to work better

someone want to give me a quick rundown on what these are and what they should be set at?

[image loading]


X and Y axis should be the same (not set seperately), acceleration setting should be 0

in your windows mouse settings (in control panel) the mouse speed setting is a thing with 11 notches on it, it should be on the middle one (6/11) and "enhance pointer precision" should be disabled. After that, you just change DPI to get the sensitivity that you want. ~600-2400 is the approx usable range on a 1920x1080 monitor
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 03:04:21
March 07 2015 02:57 GMT
#4112
On March 07 2015 11:56 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 11:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On March 07 2015 11:42 Cyro wrote:
~2k dpi is a very high sens

3310 is ~5k dpi, 3366 is ~12k dpi, no matter what you buy you're probably gonna be using like 10-20% of the maximum sensitivity


okay thanks. maybe i just need to figure out how to get the mouse I have to work better

someone want to give me a quick rundown on what these are and what they should be set at?

[image loading]


X and Y axis should be the same (not set seperately), acceleration setting should be 0

in your windows mouse settings (in control panel) the mouse speed setting is a thing with 11 notches on it, it should be on the middle one (6/11) and "enhance pointer precision" should be disabled. After that, you just change DPI to get the sensitivity that you want. ~600-2400 is the approx usable range on a 1920x1080 monitor


k thanks that was amazing help. xD

changed my dpi a bit and wow. so much easier to play counterstrike
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 07 2015 04:00 GMT
#4113
On March 07 2015 11:56 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 11:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On March 07 2015 11:42 Cyro wrote:
~2k dpi is a very high sens

3310 is ~5k dpi, 3366 is ~12k dpi, no matter what you buy you're probably gonna be using like 10-20% of the maximum sensitivity


okay thanks. maybe i just need to figure out how to get the mouse I have to work better

someone want to give me a quick rundown on what these are and what they should be set at?

[image loading]


X and Y axis should be the same (not set seperately), acceleration setting should be 0

in your windows mouse settings (in control panel) the mouse speed setting is a thing with 11 notches on it, it should be on the middle one (6/11) and "enhance pointer precision" should be disabled. After that, you just change DPI to get the sensitivity that you want. ~600-2400 is the approx usable range on a 1920x1080 monitor


I'm using 400 dpi on 1920x1080 both in SC2 and CS-like games!
maru G5L pls
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
March 07 2015 09:15 GMT
#4114
1. What's your grip style?
Claw/hybrid

2. What's your sensitivity?
Low

5. What games do you play?
FPS mostly.

7. Other relevant information:
Ikari has one of the best shapes and fits me really well, as I've rather big hands and prefer right-handed to ambidextrous.

So I've been thinking of buying new mouse as I'm starting to get enough of the Xai model and my Kana is too small for my taste. I fell in love with the Ikari when it came out and burned through 3 or 4 of those, however I've been using ambidextrous mice now for a while and feel like it's time to go back. As I generally prefer bigger mouse I've been looking at Rival as well as Naos 7k but can't really decide, or if there's other options which could fit me.
Nimix
Profile Joined October 2011
France1809 Posts
March 07 2015 11:48 GMT
#4115
The naos 7K seems to ressemble the Ikari quite a lot, and it is a great mouse as far as I know. Seems like it would suit you pretty well, have a look at http://www.overclock.net/t/1488068/mionix-naos-7000-gaming-mouse-review-by-ino
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 14:18:51
March 07 2015 14:09 GMT
#4116
On March 07 2015 13:00 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 11:56 Cyro wrote:
On March 07 2015 11:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On March 07 2015 11:42 Cyro wrote:
~2k dpi is a very high sens

3310 is ~5k dpi, 3366 is ~12k dpi, no matter what you buy you're probably gonna be using like 10-20% of the maximum sensitivity


okay thanks. maybe i just need to figure out how to get the mouse I have to work better

someone want to give me a quick rundown on what these are and what they should be set at?

[image loading]


X and Y axis should be the same (not set seperately), acceleration setting should be 0

in your windows mouse settings (in control panel) the mouse speed setting is a thing with 11 notches on it, it should be on the middle one (6/11) and "enhance pointer precision" should be disabled. After that, you just change DPI to get the sensitivity that you want. ~600-2400 is the approx usable range on a 1920x1080 monitor


I'm using 400 dpi on 1920x1080 both in SC2 and CS-like games!


400dpi 1:1 (6/11 windows, enhance pointer precision disabled, 51-54% if sensitivity is enabled in sc2) is pretty hard to play consistently fast with :D
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 15:54:53
March 07 2015 15:54 GMT
#4117
On March 07 2015 23:09 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 13:00 neptunusfisk wrote:
On March 07 2015 11:56 Cyro wrote:
On March 07 2015 11:51 Karis Vas Ryaar wrote:
On March 07 2015 11:42 Cyro wrote:
~2k dpi is a very high sens

3310 is ~5k dpi, 3366 is ~12k dpi, no matter what you buy you're probably gonna be using like 10-20% of the maximum sensitivity


okay thanks. maybe i just need to figure out how to get the mouse I have to work better

someone want to give me a quick rundown on what these are and what they should be set at?

[image loading]


X and Y axis should be the same (not set seperately), acceleration setting should be 0

in your windows mouse settings (in control panel) the mouse speed setting is a thing with 11 notches on it, it should be on the middle one (6/11) and "enhance pointer precision" should be disabled. After that, you just change DPI to get the sensitivity that you want. ~600-2400 is the approx usable range on a 1920x1080 monitor


I'm using 400 dpi on 1920x1080 both in SC2 and CS-like games!


400dpi 1:1 (6/11 windows, enhance pointer precision disabled, 51-54% if sensitivity is enabled in sc2) is pretty hard to play consistently fast with :D


Hotkeys + minimap! And yeah, I'm really bad (like 90 apm a good game) so take it as you like :p
maru G5L pls
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 15:59:37
March 07 2015 15:57 GMT
#4118
I used 360dpi around the time i broke into masters in WOL but it was extremely limiting, while 800-1k isn't at all in my experience

also relied heavily on camera hotkeys and the screen drag that you could do when holding the mousewheel in. Unfortunately blizzard doesn't have very good speed scaling for those drags, would be good if you could turn them up to be 2-3x faster
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
March 07 2015 15:59 GMT
#4119
On March 08 2015 00:57 Cyro wrote:
I used 360dpi around the time i broke into masters in WOL but it was extremely limiting, while 800-1k isn't at all in my experience


I find that my wrists are much more relaxed when playing 400 dpi, even though I use 800 from time to time (used it for a week or so two weeks ago).
maru G5L pls
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
March 07 2015 18:12 GMT
#4120
I tried 800 for a day or something but finally it got really damn tiring and I'm back to 1800 DPI, which is actually really comfortable.
maru lover forever
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