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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 22 2013 15:13 GMT
#681
I am starting to doubt on getting my mx blues after seeing so many pros having mx red, brown and black! :D
I'm happy I can use this thread to "guide" me in finding my mech keyboard.
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
January 22 2013 17:56 GMT
#682


DRG uses a MiCO now? And the keyboard looks like a Blackwidow to me.
cmh
Profile Joined December 2005
United States88 Posts
January 22 2013 18:04 GMT
#683
On January 23 2013 02:56 eBinTestO wrote:

DRG uses a MiCO now? And the keyboard looks like a Blackwidow to me.


The mouse is indeed the Zowie Mico and the keyboard is a Qsenn DT-35. I went on GOMTV and checked that video out in higher quality.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 22 2013 18:59 GMT
#684
On January 23 2013 03:04 cmh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 02:56 eBinTestO wrote:

DRG uses a MiCO now? And the keyboard looks like a Blackwidow to me.


The mouse is indeed the Zowie Mico and the keyboard is a Qsenn DT-35. I went on GOMTV and checked that video out in higher quality.


Yes this is what caused me to question mx blue keys. Because a lot of zerg spam their keys or hold them. Terran too.
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
January 22 2013 21:19 GMT
#685
On January 23 2013 03:59 KAB00000000M wrote:


Yes this is what caused me to question mx blue keys. Because a lot of zerg spam their keys or hold them. Terran too.


I would recommend you to try them out before byuing. I have a Steelseries 7G myself, and next keyboard im going to buy is going to be a Das with blues. MX blacks feel perfect for fps, but imo a bittoo stiff for rts.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 22 2013 22:40 GMT
#686
On January 23 2013 06:19 eBinTestO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 03:59 KAB00000000M wrote:


Yes this is what caused me to question mx blue keys. Because a lot of zerg spam their keys or hold them. Terran too.


I would recommend you to try them out before byuing. I have a Steelseries 7G myself, and next keyboard im going to buy is going to be a Das with blues. MX blacks feel perfect for fps, but imo a bittoo stiff for rts.


Ok thanks.
I'm going to try them out
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
January 23 2013 01:21 GMT
#687
On January 23 2013 00:13 KAB00000000M wrote:
I am starting to doubt on getting my mx blues after seeing so many pros having mx red, brown and black! :D
I'm happy I can use this thread to "guide" me in finding my mech keyboard.


Its all preference. Browns are the best overall for everything, but if you prefer blues, you'll play fine on blues. You'll never lose a game because of the mechanical keyswitch you use. Remember that most BW pros used Q-Senn DT-35's for years. Any mechanical board destroys that thing. I personally like Blues.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 02:32:52
January 23 2013 02:32 GMT
#688
On January 23 2013 10:21 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 00:13 KAB00000000M wrote:
I am starting to doubt on getting my mx blues after seeing so many pros having mx red, brown and black! :D
I'm happy I can use this thread to "guide" me in finding my mech keyboard.


Its all preference. Browns are the best overall for everything, but if you prefer blues, you'll play fine on blues. You'll never lose a game because of the mechanical keyswitch you use. Remember that most BW pros used Q-Senn DT-35's for years. Any mechanical board destroys that thing. I personally like Blues.

Actually you can lose a game if you're playing using uncomfortable keyboard or (and) a mouse. You will spend more time trying to get used to it instead of concentrating on the game. Or just a misclick ( hi Razer BW's macro keys and F keys placement ).
Personally I can't play on blues and don't really like them for anything, even typing ( browns as well ). And I would honestly pick almost any kb, even DT-35, over a mechanical one with blues. I like MX black the most, but reds are fine too.

So for those who're buying new mouse/kb and want one like their favorite pro gamer... You still should try it first, in case with keyboard at least try the most common MX switches.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 14:48:55
January 23 2013 14:48 GMT
#689
I agree that the keyboard can make you lose. At least in the early stages of getting used to the keyboard. I got myself an MX Red in the start. I double stimmed so many times. The keys are super sensitive and I don't know when the key activates. But I think the sensitivity is the biggest issue. Although my apm went considerably up after I got it. And my overall play got better. Especially my micro. (I know I am contradicting myself right now) But it felt wrong and uncomfortable. I'm playing with my DT-35 now. And I never missclick. But I feel it is a little too stiff. Do anyone know the actuation force for the DT-35 or rubber dome keyboards in general? Would be useful to compare them.

Regarding trying out the keyboards. How do you try them out? The hardware stores where I live don't allow us to try them. And I got only one friend that has a mechanical keyboard which I already tried out.
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
January 23 2013 17:01 GMT
#690
On January 23 2013 23:48 KAB00000000M wrote:
I agree that the keyboard can make you lose. At least in the early stages of getting used to the keyboard. I got myself an MX Red in the start. I double stimmed so many times. The keys are super sensitive and I don't know when the key activates. But I think the sensitivity is the biggest issue. Although my apm went considerably up after I got it. And my overall play got better. Especially my micro. (I know I am contradicting myself right now) But it felt wrong and uncomfortable. I'm playing with my DT-35 now. And I never missclick. But I feel it is a little too stiff. Do anyone know the actuation force for the DT-35 or rubber dome keyboards in general? Would be useful to compare them.

Regarding trying out the keyboards. How do you try them out? The hardware stores where I live don't allow us to try them. And I got only one friend that has a mechanical keyboard which I already tried out.


If you still have your mechanical keyboard with reds you can try putting coins on one key, and then do the same with the DT-35. I would imagine the browns would be pretty much perfect for you, if the reds felt light enough. Brown would feel pretty much the same but you will feel when it actuates.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 19:10:29
January 23 2013 19:10 GMT
#691
On January 24 2013 02:01 eBinTestO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 23:48 KAB00000000M wrote:
I agree that the keyboard can make you lose. At least in the early stages of getting used to the keyboard. I got myself an MX Red in the start. I double stimmed so many times. The keys are super sensitive and I don't know when the key activates. But I think the sensitivity is the biggest issue. Although my apm went considerably up after I got it. And my overall play got better. Especially my micro. (I know I am contradicting myself right now) But it felt wrong and uncomfortable. I'm playing with my DT-35 now. And I never missclick. But I feel it is a little too stiff. Do anyone know the actuation force for the DT-35 or rubber dome keyboards in general? Would be useful to compare them.

Regarding trying out the keyboards. How do you try them out? The hardware stores where I live don't allow us to try them. And I got only one friend that has a mechanical keyboard which I already tried out.


If you still have your mechanical keyboard with reds you can try putting coins on one key, and then do the same with the DT-35. I would imagine the browns would be pretty much perfect for you, if the reds felt light enough. Brown would feel pretty much the same but you will feel when it actuates.


Thanks.
Does a coin make the reds actuate?
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
January 23 2013 19:55 GMT
#692
On January 24 2013 04:10 KAB00000000M wrote:

Thanks.
Does a coin make the reds actuate?


Put one coin at a time and then look when it actuates Then do the same with the DT-35. Use the same kind of coins and count how many it needs. Then you can count how much it needs to actuate.
TJ31
Profile Joined October 2012
630 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 20:14:44
January 23 2013 20:13 GMT
#693
On January 23 2013 23:48 KAB00000000M wrote:

Regarding trying out the keyboards. How do you try them out? The hardware stores where I live don't allow us to try them. And I got only one friend that has a mechanical keyboard which I already tried out.

Here where I live every big store that sells PC hardware and stuff like that have demo units for most popular kbs and mice. Almost every store have both versions of blackwidow and 6gv2, so that 3 out of 4 of the most common MX switches already ( ofc there's more, like clear/green switches etc, but those are rare... ). And some will allow you to try pretty much any piece of hardware unless it's in blister pack which can't be opened without damaging it.
Also you can try this: http://deskthority.net/try-before-you-buy-f29/the-cherry-switch-try-gaming-pcb-s-t780.html
It's some kind of demo unit with different types of the switches and people send it to each other so everyone can try those.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 23 2013 23:57 GMT
#694
Awesome. Thanks.
I'll try to check out some other hardware shops when I go on vacation then.

Gonna try the coin trick right now though! :D
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 24 2013 15:42 GMT
#695
I did the coin experiment. And here are my results:
(Actuation force in grams)

DT-35: ~62g

MX Red: ~42-48g
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
January 26 2013 15:24 GMT
#696
On January 25 2013 00:42 KAB00000000M wrote:
I did the coin experiment. And here are my results:
(Actuation force in grams)

DT-35: ~62g

MX Red: ~42-48g


Awesome! Seems like Cherry MX Clears would be the closest to DT-35. I think Ducky has some keyboards with MX Clears.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 27 2013 01:48 GMT
#697
On January 27 2013 00:24 eBinTestO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 00:42 KAB00000000M wrote:
I did the coin experiment. And here are my results:
(Actuation force in grams)

DT-35: ~62g

MX Red: ~42-48g


Awesome! Seems like Cherry MX Clears would be the closest to DT-35. I think Ducky has some keyboards with MX Clears.


Yeah. But why get a new keyboard that cost about 11x the price of a DT-35 that will be the same?
I want one that is a little lighter. But not as light as MX Red. Perhaps blue. But I'm afraid that the higher release point makes it harder to click rapidly when for example producing say 4 marines on 2 reactored barracks.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
January 27 2013 03:43 GMT
#698
Yeah, blue is fine for games, only issue for me is because it is very hard to press, after long hours of gaming my fingers gets tired really easily however someone else might not have that problem, it all depends on your hand strength and what pressure you find is most suitable.
Rillanon.au
eBinTestO
Profile Joined August 2012
Finland104 Posts
January 27 2013 09:30 GMT
#699
On January 27 2013 10:48 KAB00000000M wrote:

Yeah. But why get a new keyboard that cost about 11x the price of a DT-35 that will be the same?
I want one that is a little lighter. But not as light as MX Red. Perhaps blue. But I'm afraid that the higher release point makes it harder to click rapidly when for example producing say 4 marines on 2 reactored barracks.


It wont feel the same, but it would be as "hard" to press. Brown would maybe feel more like a DT-35 than blue. But it wont be the same.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 27 2013 14:10 GMT
#700
On January 27 2013 18:30 eBinTestO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 10:48 KAB00000000M wrote:

Yeah. But why get a new keyboard that cost about 11x the price of a DT-35 that will be the same?
I want one that is a little lighter. But not as light as MX Red. Perhaps blue. But I'm afraid that the higher release point makes it harder to click rapidly when for example producing say 4 marines on 2 reactored barracks.


It wont feel the same, but it would be as "hard" to press. Brown would maybe feel more like a DT-35 than blue. But it wont be the same.


Cherry MX Brown are as light as MX Red. Only difference is that they have tactile feedback. But I guess that could feel like a little small resistance bump.

Cherry MX Blue are 5g harder than MX Red/Brown. (Actuation force: 50g and 45g respectively)
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