• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:58
CET 20:58
KST 04:58
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win22025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Could we add "Avoid Matchup" Feature for rankgame Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win The New Patch Killed Mech! Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET [ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION ASL final tickets help
Strategy
PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Trump's Golden Crown in Kor…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1215 users

ESL Open #160: Dark wins KR, HeroMarine doubles

Forum Index > SC2 General
8 CommentsPost a Reply
TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-05 10:59:28
February 05 2023 10:59 GMT
#1
[image loading]
2022-23 ESL Pro Tour - Open Cups: Week #160 (January 29-30)

by Steadfast

Week #160 saw Open Cup participation wind down as IEM Katowice approached. Dark came out on top in a lightly attended Korean cup, while HeroMarine pulled off a Europe-North America double.


Korean Cup

[image loading]


The Korean Cup was once more a small and cozy affair with just twelve players competing. None of the big name Terrans showed up leaving Dark, soO, Rex, Classic, and Chance as the most notable players involved.The bracket was mostly uneventful, although Classic got a nice result for himself by taking down fellow Katowice RO36 player soO 2-0 in the semifinals.

Dark and Classic ended up meeting in the finals (VOD) where Dark took a 3-1 victory over his former T1 teammate. The series actually started with a victory for Classic, as he used Blink Stalkers into fast Storm to overpower Dark's Swarm Host-centric army in game 1. Unfortunately, this only had the effect of awakening Dark’s 'uber murder mode' that we frequently see in these cups after a loss. The following two games featured Dark deciding to kill Classic with very attacks, featuring a Zergling-Nydus all-in in game 2 and some early Roach aggression in game 3 which put both games out of reach. Game 4 was a longer macro game and Classic certainly had opportunities to make plays, but it was clear that Dark was locked in as he outmuscled Classic with strong multitasking and the brute force of Ravager-Ling-Bane.

Notes and observations: Looking at this week’s matches, there’s not a whole lot that you could take away regarding the new patch or the outlook for IEM Katowice. Dark was clearly the strongest player in the cup, and he really showed it after suffering a game one loss to Classic.

Still, it was a promising showing for Classic as he defeated soO 2-0 and took a map off of Dark in the finals. Classic seem to like Blink into fast Storm play, which is a very effective weapon given the narrow corridors/chokes on many of the new maps. Also, something else to note is that Classic was eating a TON of Corrosive Biles to the face throughout his multiple series, but none of them seemed to cost him any games. Still, that's not great news if you’re a Classic fan heading into Katowice as those kinds of mistakes will get punished hard.

*****

European Cup (partial bracket shown)

[image loading]


The European Cup was more lively compared to Korea, though participation was still affected by Katowice's approach. While none of the big name European Zergs competed, we still had HeroMarine, last week’s champ Spirit, Clem, MaxPax, ShoWTimE, SKillous, and Rattata all competing.

Much of this week’s bracket went predictably, except for a big early upset as underdog Ashbringer took down Clem 2-1 in the RO32. This threw open the door for MaxPax to blitz his way to the Grand Finals, taking down Spirit and a slew of Protoss players without dropping a map. On the other side of the bracket, HeroMarine was back at the office on a Monday and made his way to the Finals as well, only dropping a map to SKillous in the semis. This would set up another classic EU cup match in the finals with HeroMarine facing off against the young Danish star MaxPax (finals VOD).

Game 1 saw MaxPax try to fend off a big Tank-bio push with Phoenix-Colossus, but he was ultimately run over by the Terran army after he missed a key Forcefield that would have bought him enough time to get out a 3rd Colossus. Game 2 looked like it was going to be a quick MaxPax victory with Big Gabe going 3 CC against a 4-gate Blink Stalker build. However, HeroMarine managed to survive despite taking significant damage, and even launched a counterattack that put MaxPax into a tough spot. MaxPax ultimately fought back and overwhelmed the German Terran with great economy and strong tech, but it was still an impressive showing from HeroMarine considering that he had lost the early build order battle.

Game 3 produced a weird situation for both players as MaxPax's 3-Gate aggression with a proxied gate went up against a 6-Marine + 1-Hellion drop. Things initially looked good for MaximusPaximus, but the counter damage from the drop proved to be significant. MaxPax tried to strike back with Blink Stalker harassment, but it wasn't enough to even the odds and he eventually GG'd out to a 3-1-1 bio push. Game 4 saw MaxPax finding nice damage early with Dark Templar and going into Colossus behind it, but Big Gabe's still managed to assemble a dangerous bio push in the mid-game. However, MaxPax was able to snipe HeroMarine’s key Raven, which helped him hold the push and take the game.

The final game of the series took place on Altitude and displayed some exciting back and forth action. MaxPax opened Phoenix-Colossus once again, but this time he found a great engagement early on to take an early lead. However, HeroMarine got into MaxPax’s natural and main with a Widow Mine drop that killed 14 Probes and put the German Terran significantly ahead economically. MaxPax battled back finding small harassment damage with the Phoenix, but couldn't assemble a strong enough army to handle HeroMarnie's big push with bio and Vikings. While MaxPax barely survived and dragged the game out for a while longer, he never regained a true foothold in the game and eventually GG'd out.

Notes and observations: The big takeaway for me from the European weekly cup is that Big Gabe looks damn good right now. The Monday’s have always been his territory and he consistently looks good during these tournaments, but he's looked especially sharp over the last few weeks.

Ironically, the game that impressed me the most was a game he lost: Game 2 of the finals on Ancient Cistern. HeroMarine turned an utterly hopeless situation into a near-victory with some extremely crisp defense and overall fantastic play. Any time that a player takes a fast 3rd CC against a 4-gate Blink Stalker attack and doesn’t die, that’s an impressive feat. And it is worth noting that MaxPax’s 4-gate Blink is probably the second best in the world right now. The only unfortunate thing for HeroMarine is that he doesn’t have any Protoss players in his group at IEM Katowice. The good news, however, is that his mechanics and speed look nothing short of stunning.

*****

American Cup (partial bracket shown)

[image loading]


The Americas Cup once again featured players from all three major regions duking it out over the contested server: MaxPax, trigger, HeroMarine, Vindicta, soO, and Dark all competed. This was one of the more interesting brackets we’ve seen from the America’s open and featured some exciting results. One of the biggest results was Jason taking a game off of Dark with a strong BC-Hellion opener that got in great damage, followed up by an impressive display of the recently buffed battlemech. Dark held on impressively after suffering critical damage, but the Canadian lad was too far ahead to be stopped. Unfortunately, this wasn’t enough to take the series, as angry Dark would strike back hard in games 2 and 3 to take the series. But nonetheless, it was an impressive showing from JuggernautJason. Meanwhile, HeroMarine beat MaxPax for the second time that day, once again displaying some impressive TvP to win 2-1. On the top side of the bracket, soO showcased some impressive decision making and crisis management in a very weird ZvZ series against Dark. In particular, game 2 featured a bizarre situation of Roach-Muta vs. Roach-Corruptor, in which soO was able to grind out a victory and take down the favorite.

That gave us a somewhat unexpected finals of soO vs HeroMarine (VOD), with the two players facing for the first time since 2019. Things kicked off on Babylon where they had a nice contest of mechanics. HeroMarine kicked things off with standard Hellion-Banshee into an 8-rax push which soO initially seemed to handle well. However, he overextended just a little too far off of creep, and Big Gabe took a strong engagement to snowball game 1 into a victory. Game 2 on Altitude featured a very interesting opener from HeroMarine, as he went for Hellion-Banshee with the Banshee speed upgrade instead of cloak. This allowed him to zip around between bases and find some nice economic damage. Unfortunately HeroMarine somehow missed his opponent's switch to Mutalisk tech during all this, and soO was able to close the game out after catching HeroMarine's first Medivac push.

HeroMarine decided to switch things up for Game 3 on NeoHumanity with a Marauder-Hellbat push which stunned the Korean Zerg. HeroMarine's excellent usage of a bait Viking drew soO’s Queens to the front line, which allowed him to take them out and easily follow through with his push. Game 4 on Gresvan featured another 8-rax from Big Gabe. A Baneling counterattack from soO killed 14 SCV's but left him with far too few units to defend, which put HeroMarine in a commanding position. soO couldn't withstand the Terran parade push, and was forced to concede a 1-3 loss to HeroMarine.

Notes and observations: Once again, the big take from the cup was that HeroMarine looks to be in great form at the moment. It’s a weekly cup, so we always have to take it with a grain of salt, but he is certainly looking sharp.

As far as patch repercussions are concerned, Jason beating Dark with battlemech is certainly a big result, although it was the BC-Hellion opener that put him into a winning position more so than the later mech army.

The biggest potential development was HeroMarine's experimentation with Hyperflight Rotors instead of Cloak in TvZ. While it was just one game, the extra speed was eye-popping and opened up a whole slew of opportunities for HeroMarine to get in extra damage. It’s entirely possible that the extra 21 seconds that the upgrade takes simply won’t fit into Terran build orders, but don’t be surprised if you see other players at Katowice try some fancy Banshee harassment before transitioning into bio play.
Facebook Twitter Reddit
TL+ Member
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4224 Posts
February 05 2023 12:32 GMT
#2
11 players in KR edition...?

lol, okay then..
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3433 Posts
February 05 2023 12:43 GMT
#3
You should have seen the one today then.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4224 Posts
February 05 2023 12:49 GMT
#4
are korean players really this disinterested? what is going on there?
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
February 05 2023 13:01 GMT
#5
So Steadfast wrote this? Cool.Didn't know he's writing here, but it seems like he has written the last weeklies too. Insane week for Heromarine.

As for the low player count on KR... idk, maybe they are just not interested in the game anymore and just play the big tournaments anymore. A bit sad but yeah.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-05 14:53:04
February 05 2023 14:52 GMT
#6
They are hiding strategies for Katowice, zerg dot need to do that thats why soo and dark play
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1814 Posts
February 05 2023 16:13 GMT
#7
Jugger beat dark but no talk of me beating maxpax 😢
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-05 16:19:27
February 05 2023 16:19 GMT
#8
I understand why the bigger KR names don't play in these but it's sad that there aren't more amateurs interested. One PvP or ZvZ bo3 upset vs someone like Chance/Rex and you're winning $50. Wonder why more of the KR GMs arent taking that shot. Unless KR GM is just filled with pros and their alts.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
774 Posts
February 05 2023 16:38 GMT
#9
On February 06 2023 01:13 CicadaSC wrote:
Jugger beat dark but no talk of me beating maxpax 😢
You played NA and won a map vs MaxPax?!
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
SteadfastSC223
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 223
ProTech108
JuggernautJason90
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 658
Soulkey 109
Dewaltoss 105
soO 18
Dota 2
qojqva4051
Dendi1033
Fuzer 247
monkeys_forever86
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
ScreaM1178
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu361
Other Games
Grubby2458
FrodaN1253
fl0m1032
B2W.Neo400
Harstem281
Skadoodle204
shahzam193
C9.Mang0114
ArmadaUGS89
ZombieGrub62
Mew2King49
Trikslyr44
OptimusSC27
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV29
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 12
• Reevou 2
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 26
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2809
• WagamamaTV591
• Ler103
League of Legends
• TFBlade970
Other Games
• imaqtpie1268
• Scarra263
• Shiphtur155
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
3h 2m
The PondCast
13h 2m
OSC
16h 2m
Harstem vs SKillous
Gerald vs Spirit
Krystianer vs TriGGeR
Cham vs Ryung
CrankTV Team League
17h 2m
Team Liquid vs Team Falcon
Replay Cast
1d 14h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 16h
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
Epic.LAN
1d 16h
CrankTV Team League
1d 17h
BASILISK vs TBD
Replay Cast
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL Team A[vengers]
2 days
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
BSL Team A[vengers]
3 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.