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Serral leaves ENCE, joins Basilisk

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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
January 27 2023 13:26 GMT
#1
ENCE Statement:
The King, the GOAT, the Phenom, the Champion. Those are a few words that come to mind when describing Joona. ENCE has had the pleasure of sharing seven phenomenal years with one of the world's most skilled and successful esports players. We wish him the best of luck in his future endeavors and continuing success in the ranks of his new team.


Link: https://ence.gg/article/farewell-serral


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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
January 27 2023 13:48 GMT
#2
My guess is DPG, since Dark is starting military soon, and I guess Serral is the next best thing
Would also keep to the theme of the KaiZi vs. DPG rivalry if one has Reynor and the other Serral.
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swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2466 Posts
January 27 2023 14:04 GMT
#3
DPG might scouted him first I guess. Dark, and then Rogue albeit in just short time span. They managed to assemble two best Zerg players in the world, and now they another best Zerg player into the rooster.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
January 27 2023 14:17 GMT
#4
any reason why he would leave? ENCE not paying enough, or just a mutual separation?
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 27 2023 14:26 GMT
#5
WTL domination inc.
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Azhrak
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland1198 Posts
January 27 2023 14:32 GMT
#6
Big news. Hope he gets a deal he deserves in the new org.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
January 27 2023 14:36 GMT
#7
Move to DPG make sense, as they are about to lose Cure as well, that leave only herO as the Ace. Serral and herO, and another solid player will give DPG more change to win.
And if Serral can play in the coming WTL playoff for DPG, then its OVER.
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1079 Posts
January 27 2023 14:48 GMT
#8
Huh, can't say I saw that one coming.

On January 27 2023 23:17 renaissanceMAN wrote:
any reason why he would leave? ENCE not paying enough, or just a mutual separation?


Idk, but he was the only SC2 player on the roster. Obviously he's Serral so he can prbly take his pick of practice partners but it will be interesting to see how he does if the team who snagged him is more SC2 centered.

We can only hope that he just had so much fun in the WTL 2v2 tourney that he wanted to play a full season and try his hand at GSL to boot.

Can't wait to see where he ends up! Massive sign for any team.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 27 2023 15:46 GMT
#9
On January 27 2023 23:36 tigera6 wrote:
Move to DPG make sense, as they are about to lose Cure as well, that leave only herO as the Ace. Serral and herO, and another solid player will give DPG more change to win.
And if Serral can play in the coming WTL playoff for DPG, then its OVER.

And that's entirely possible, WTL gave teams a grace period until Feb 6th to register new players to compensate for the delay.
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MajiN1
Profile Joined July 2017
113 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-27 16:03:52
January 27 2023 16:02 GMT
#10
According to liquipedia, he signs with team Basilisk.
Teammate with (Wiki)trigger now!

TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
January 27 2023 16:02 GMT
#11
Guess I was wrong.

https://twitter.com/BASILISK_gg/status/1618999121528102912
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 27 2023 16:27 GMT
#12
Same team as Rotti. :O GL Serral, still gonna cheer for you of course
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
January 27 2023 16:58 GMT
#13
Does Basilisk allready have 3 players for WTL?
I only recall Trigger besides Serral.
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-27 17:08:31
January 27 2023 17:08 GMT
#14
On January 28 2023 01:58 dbRic1203 wrote:
Does Basilisk allready have 3 players for WTL?
I only recall Trigger besides Serral.

Rotti can play, they will make it through the WTL qualifier with Serral carrying. Then they can add more player when the regular season comes.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
January 27 2023 19:28 GMT
#15
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33701 Posts
January 27 2023 19:28 GMT
#16
Rotti has always been big on supporting the 'mid-tier' (my words) pros who are good but don't get much attention, so I wonder if we get a WTL-ready roster that's Serral + up and comers
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dysenterymd
Profile Joined January 2019
1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-27 20:05:33
January 27 2023 20:00 GMT
#17
On January 28 2023 04:28 Waxangel wrote:
Rotti has always been big on supporting the 'mid-tier' (my words) pros who are good but don't get much attention, so I wonder if we get a WTL-ready roster that's Serral + up and comers

Or Basilisk could try to scoop up some of the NV players to become a true contender. Serral was probably very expensive though, who knows how much money is left (Rotti is a big Bunny fan...)
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3136 Posts
January 27 2023 21:45 GMT
#18
Oh fascinating, Basilisk making a huge move to assert their presence in the scene.

Hopefully this does lead to Serral in playing in WTL, lots of good storylines there.
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Balnazza
Profile Joined January 2018
Germany1361 Posts
January 27 2023 22:13 GMT
#19
Hope they get one or two great players more...would be kind of sad to finally have Serral in WTL and then he isn't in a competitive team :/
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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden992 Posts
January 28 2023 06:29 GMT
#20
Rotti beeing a tease on last nights stream regarding more player/s joining, so who knows
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1990 Posts
January 28 2023 06:52 GMT
#21
On January 28 2023 04:28 Waxangel wrote:
Rotti has always been big on supporting the 'mid-tier' (my words) pros who are good but don't get much attention, so I wonder if we get a WTL-ready roster that's Serral + up and comers

is rotterdamn like the coach of basilisk or something?
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tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3516 Posts
January 28 2023 08:07 GMT
#22
On January 28 2023 15:52 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2023 04:28 Waxangel wrote:
Rotti has always been big on supporting the 'mid-tier' (my words) pros who are good but don't get much attention, so I wonder if we get a WTL-ready roster that's Serral + up and comers

is rotterdamn like the coach of basilisk or something?

He joined the team as commentator, I think. Like Steadfast as part of PsiStorm Gaming.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
January 28 2023 15:57 GMT
#23
Serral in WTL sounds exciting. I hope Basilisk will compete in the tournament.
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9055 Posts
January 29 2023 15:56 GMT
#24
How is Basilisk in other ventures? are they funded by Saudi money?
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
January 29 2023 19:38 GMT
#25
On January 30 2023 00:56 Garnet wrote:
How is Basilisk in other ventures? are they funded by Saudi money?

That's sort of the current assumption until they say something real about who they are o_o
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Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1079 Posts
January 29 2023 23:28 GMT
#26
Oooo, fresh blood for the WTL. Let's gooo!
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 30 2023 04:40 GMT
#27
Serral + a bunch of the former NV boys would be an instant championship contender, considering DPG will lose Dark in the next season, and possibly Cure sometime this year too.
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Amanda12Grant
Profile Joined February 2023
1 Post
Last Edited: 2023-02-03 05:08:01
February 03 2023 05:07 GMT
#28
Bot edit.

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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 06 2023 14:33 GMT
#29
We have a good idea of lifetime earnings from tournaments for proplayers, does anyone have datapoints or ranges about their salaries as well ? Just curious how much a top SC2 pro commands these days.
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FamesCorv
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany33 Posts
February 06 2023 14:39 GMT
#30
I think there are videos from back in the beginning days (when huk & stephano were on eg) where it was rumored they made 5 figure bank a month. Nowadays I don't think any player is making that amount of money. Teams will mostly cover traveling expanses and sponsor the gear and give a lower salary (some hundreds to small 4 figure salaries for the top top pros). But that is just speculation.
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Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-06 20:34:55
February 06 2023 20:22 GMT
#31
On February 06 2023 23:33 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
We have a good idea of lifetime earnings from tournaments for proplayers, does anyone have datapoints or ranges about their salaries as well ? Just curious how much a top SC2 pro commands these days.


More than you think is the correct answer.

On February 06 2023 23:39 FamesCorv wrote:
I think there are videos from back in the beginning days (when huk & stephano were on eg) where it was rumored they made 5 figure bank a month. Nowadays I don't think any player is making that amount of money. Teams will mostly cover traveling expanses and sponsor the gear and give a lower salary (some hundreds to small 4 figure salaries for the top top pros). But that is just speculation.


More than you think is the correct answer. Again.
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 07 2023 11:14 GMT
#32
On February 07 2023 05:22 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2023 23:33 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
We have a good idea of lifetime earnings from tournaments for proplayers, does anyone have datapoints or ranges about their salaries as well ? Just curious how much a top SC2 pro commands these days.


More than you think is the correct answer.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2023 23:39 FamesCorv wrote:
I think there are videos from back in the beginning days (when huk & stephano were on eg) where it was rumored they made 5 figure bank a month. Nowadays I don't think any player is making that amount of money. Teams will mostly cover traveling expanses and sponsor the gear and give a lower salary (some hundreds to small 4 figure salaries for the top top pros). But that is just speculation.


More than you think is the correct answer. Again.


Thanks for your answer, it feels like you've said too much or not enough Personally, I can't see six figures as viable economically relative to number of eyeballs (in fact it'd be demotivational w.r.t. smaller tournaments prize pools, teams want hungry players). So if it's more than 4 figures it has to be 5, probably low 5 I think the top 8 players deserve every bit of that and more. They are all prodigies and also seasoned veterans with a decade of experience, grind, and passion for the game !
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 14:36:41
February 10 2023 14:34 GMT
#33
Basilisk founder as well as the cofounder / CTO are here in Katowice so they are real people, for those worried that the team was a scam or something.
To the poster above, there was insight on ComebackTV that TL initially asked for 1000€ per day of filming for the documentary on Clem, so they are probably paying him a comfortable salary!
Obviously it depends on the teams, but I would expect the ones with other more profitable businesses than just sc2 or even games to pay well (ie. TL with all the LoL hype and other games, Shopify Rebellion with Shopify, Ence with the CS:GO fans, etc.)
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7408 Posts
February 10 2023 15:24 GMT
#34
On February 10 2023 23:34 Poopi wrote:
Basilisk founder as well as the cofounder / CTO are here in Katowice so they are real people, for those worried that the team was a scam or something.
To the poster above, there was insight on ComebackTV that TL initially asked for 1000€ per day of filming for the documentary on Clem, so they are probably paying him a comfortable salary!
Obviously it depends on the teams, but I would expect the ones with other more profitable businesses than just sc2 or even games to pay well (ie. TL with all the LoL hype and other games, Shopify Rebellion with Shopify, Ence with the CS:GO fans, etc.)


Well then go ask them what Serral's salary is!

Would also be interesting if it's like other sports where salary is part base, part bonus
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8991 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 04:04:09
February 11 2023 04:02 GMT
#35
On February 10 2023 23:34 Poopi wrote:
Basilisk founder as well as the cofounder / CTO are here in Katowice so they are real people, for those worried that the team was a scam or something.
To the poster above, there was insight on ComebackTV that TL initially asked for 1000€ per day of filming for the documentary on Clem, so they are probably paying him a comfortable salary!
Obviously it depends on the teams, but I would expect the ones with other more profitable businesses than just sc2 or even games to pay well (ie. TL with all the LoL hype and other games, Shopify Rebellion with Shopify, Ence with the CS:GO fans, etc.)


Even after a decade following esport, I still have no idea how the hell esport teams are making any notable money to pay their players without any stadium entry, broadcasting right or share of the events revenues.

Sometime I feel like the whole industry is living off the marketing budget of office chairs companies.
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3516 Posts
February 11 2023 06:59 GMT
#36
^ So much has always been somewhat of a losing venture, but it's not like billion dollar corporations like Intel, or even Shopify, particularly care.
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