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Serral leaves ENCE, joins Basilisk - Page 2

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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1984 Posts
January 28 2023 06:52 GMT
#21
On January 28 2023 04:28 Waxangel wrote:
Rotti has always been big on supporting the 'mid-tier' (my words) pros who are good but don't get much attention, so I wonder if we get a WTL-ready roster that's Serral + up and comers

is rotterdamn like the coach of basilisk or something?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3513 Posts
January 28 2023 08:07 GMT
#22
On January 28 2023 15:52 CicadaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2023 04:28 Waxangel wrote:
Rotti has always been big on supporting the 'mid-tier' (my words) pros who are good but don't get much attention, so I wonder if we get a WTL-ready roster that's Serral + up and comers

is rotterdamn like the coach of basilisk or something?

He joined the team as commentator, I think. Like Steadfast as part of PsiStorm Gaming.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
January 28 2023 15:57 GMT
#23
Serral in WTL sounds exciting. I hope Basilisk will compete in the tournament.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9052 Posts
January 29 2023 15:56 GMT
#24
How is Basilisk in other ventures? are they funded by Saudi money?
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3513 Posts
January 29 2023 19:38 GMT
#25
On January 30 2023 00:56 Garnet wrote:
How is Basilisk in other ventures? are they funded by Saudi money?

That's sort of the current assumption until they say something real about who they are o_o
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Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1079 Posts
January 29 2023 23:28 GMT
#26
Oooo, fresh blood for the WTL. Let's gooo!
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
January 30 2023 04:40 GMT
#27
Serral + a bunch of the former NV boys would be an instant championship contender, considering DPG will lose Dark in the next season, and possibly Cure sometime this year too.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Amanda12Grant
Profile Joined February 2023
1 Post
Last Edited: 2023-02-03 05:08:01
February 03 2023 05:07 GMT
#28
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 06 2023 14:33 GMT
#29
We have a good idea of lifetime earnings from tournaments for proplayers, does anyone have datapoints or ranges about their salaries as well ? Just curious how much a top SC2 pro commands these days.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
FamesCorv
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany33 Posts
February 06 2023 14:39 GMT
#30
I think there are videos from back in the beginning days (when huk & stephano were on eg) where it was rumored they made 5 figure bank a month. Nowadays I don't think any player is making that amount of money. Teams will mostly cover traveling expanses and sponsor the gear and give a lower salary (some hundreds to small 4 figure salaries for the top top pros). But that is just speculation.
Xlord fulltime ? - bye, bye Stephano!
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1952 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-06 20:34:55
February 06 2023 20:22 GMT
#31
On February 06 2023 23:33 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
We have a good idea of lifetime earnings from tournaments for proplayers, does anyone have datapoints or ranges about their salaries as well ? Just curious how much a top SC2 pro commands these days.


More than you think is the correct answer.

On February 06 2023 23:39 FamesCorv wrote:
I think there are videos from back in the beginning days (when huk & stephano were on eg) where it was rumored they made 5 figure bank a month. Nowadays I don't think any player is making that amount of money. Teams will mostly cover traveling expanses and sponsor the gear and give a lower salary (some hundreds to small 4 figure salaries for the top top pros). But that is just speculation.


More than you think is the correct answer. Again.
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MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
February 07 2023 11:14 GMT
#32
On February 07 2023 05:22 Mizenhauer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2023 23:33 MyLovelyLurker wrote:
We have a good idea of lifetime earnings from tournaments for proplayers, does anyone have datapoints or ranges about their salaries as well ? Just curious how much a top SC2 pro commands these days.


More than you think is the correct answer.

Show nested quote +
On February 06 2023 23:39 FamesCorv wrote:
I think there are videos from back in the beginning days (when huk & stephano were on eg) where it was rumored they made 5 figure bank a month. Nowadays I don't think any player is making that amount of money. Teams will mostly cover traveling expanses and sponsor the gear and give a lower salary (some hundreds to small 4 figure salaries for the top top pros). But that is just speculation.


More than you think is the correct answer. Again.


Thanks for your answer, it feels like you've said too much or not enough Personally, I can't see six figures as viable economically relative to number of eyeballs (in fact it'd be demotivational w.r.t. smaller tournaments prize pools, teams want hungry players). So if it's more than 4 figures it has to be 5, probably low 5 I think the top 8 players deserve every bit of that and more. They are all prodigies and also seasoned veterans with a decade of experience, grind, and passion for the game !
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13014 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-10 14:36:41
February 10 2023 14:34 GMT
#33
Basilisk founder as well as the cofounder / CTO are here in Katowice so they are real people, for those worried that the team was a scam or something.
To the poster above, there was insight on ComebackTV that TL initially asked for 1000€ per day of filming for the documentary on Clem, so they are probably paying him a comfortable salary!
Obviously it depends on the teams, but I would expect the ones with other more profitable businesses than just sc2 or even games to pay well (ie. TL with all the LoL hype and other games, Shopify Rebellion with Shopify, Ence with the CS:GO fans, etc.)
WriterMaru
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7362 Posts
February 10 2023 15:24 GMT
#34
On February 10 2023 23:34 Poopi wrote:
Basilisk founder as well as the cofounder / CTO are here in Katowice so they are real people, for those worried that the team was a scam or something.
To the poster above, there was insight on ComebackTV that TL initially asked for 1000€ per day of filming for the documentary on Clem, so they are probably paying him a comfortable salary!
Obviously it depends on the teams, but I would expect the ones with other more profitable businesses than just sc2 or even games to pay well (ie. TL with all the LoL hype and other games, Shopify Rebellion with Shopify, Ence with the CS:GO fans, etc.)


Well then go ask them what Serral's salary is!

Would also be interesting if it's like other sports where salary is part base, part bonus
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8990 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-02-11 04:04:09
February 11 2023 04:02 GMT
#35
On February 10 2023 23:34 Poopi wrote:
Basilisk founder as well as the cofounder / CTO are here in Katowice so they are real people, for those worried that the team was a scam or something.
To the poster above, there was insight on ComebackTV that TL initially asked for 1000€ per day of filming for the documentary on Clem, so they are probably paying him a comfortable salary!
Obviously it depends on the teams, but I would expect the ones with other more profitable businesses than just sc2 or even games to pay well (ie. TL with all the LoL hype and other games, Shopify Rebellion with Shopify, Ence with the CS:GO fans, etc.)


Even after a decade following esport, I still have no idea how the hell esport teams are making any notable money to pay their players without any stadium entry, broadcasting right or share of the events revenues.

Sometime I feel like the whole industry is living off the marketing budget of office chairs companies.
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Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3513 Posts
February 11 2023 06:59 GMT
#36
^ So much has always been somewhat of a losing venture, but it's not like billion dollar corporations like Intel, or even Shopify, particularly care.
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