• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:44
CET 12:44
KST 20:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!33$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1535 users

DHM Atlanta: Power Rank - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
47 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
youaremysin
Profile Joined August 2015
119 Posts
November 18 2022 08:34 GMT
#21
Maru vs ByuN led to very close games recently, I can see ByuN taking it if Maru isn't at 100% of is form which is usually the case overseas. Maybe some P players can also break him in bo3 but bo5 not so sure.
The tournament style should also be taken into consideration as some players thrive through intensive days, we could have some underdogs stories.
hyuu
Profile Joined August 2011
163 Posts
November 18 2022 09:07 GMT
#22
hilarious player categories :D :D

"People will get mad if I don't mention them" may be the GOAT category name
Iskhiaro
Profile Joined March 2011
Great Britain11 Posts
November 18 2022 10:08 GMT
#23
Feels like zoun, soo and ryung should also get mentions, they've had deep runs in tournaments people weren't expecting them to do well in before, I think they stand some long shot chance of getting deep.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16097 Posts
November 18 2022 10:33 GMT
#24
On November 18 2022 16:20 sudete wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2022 20:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
On November 17 2022 18:44 tigera6 wrote:
Where is Neeb and Astrea, they will have home-field for the entire event, and should be solid in top 10. But great write up as always, Wax.


As if that matters. Since when have American players performed particularly well at American events? I mean, other than Polt that is.


Neeb at WCS Austin. It was a hugely impressive result at the time, even though he had won Kespa cup several months before. I mean, it was difficult to predict that he would go on to win Jonkoping and Montreal in the same year


Ok so we have exactly one event that someone can name.

Any others? Because far as I can tell over 10 years, there's no such thing as "home field" when it comes to American events. There is such a thing as home field for Korean and European events, but not for American events.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Seacow
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden99 Posts
November 18 2022 10:58 GMT
#25
On November 18 2022 19:08 Iskhiaro wrote:
Feels like zoun, soo and ryung should also get mentions, they've had deep runs in tournaments people weren't expecting them to do well in before, I think they stand some long shot chance of getting deep.


SoO maybe, but I don't see Zoun or Ryung making it into top 24 playoffs.

Cheering for Astrea, Showtime, Scarlett and Solar!
Early upgrade enthusiast
DLSMIZEL
Profile Joined April 2020
Philippines16 Posts
November 18 2022 12:10 GMT
#26
Let it be GuMiho!!! Let's gooooooooooo!!!!!!
PSISTORM Gaming - Head of Design & Media | Twitter: @dlsmziel
Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
194 Posts
November 18 2022 12:50 GMT
#27
What I see Maru and herO do to win just looks insanely impressive , in terms of the control and multitasking and decision making in high pace situations.

I can't put Serral next to them in skill when it comes to the abilities I mentioned above, however he is still an extremely mechanically gifted player and is a methodical genius in how he approaches the game.
And this is the reason he is not the GOAT for me, I feel like zerg has had it and still has it a bit to comfortable and is a bit to forgiving compared to Terran and Protoss.

Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1900 Posts
November 18 2022 14:21 GMT
#28
Remember the days when other writers were included in the power ranking? I remember, because I ran the PRs back then.
┗|∵|┓Second Place in LB 28, Third Place in LB 29 and Destined to Be a Kong
TossHeroes
Profile Joined February 2022
281 Posts
November 18 2022 14:39 GMT
#29
Another trophy to add to Goat Serral’s collection

He should easily clean this field, since his nemesis reynor isn’t attending
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
November 18 2022 15:01 GMT
#30
Thank you for mentioning HeroMarine, otherwise I would have been VERY MAD.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
Iskhiaro
Profile Joined March 2011
Great Britain11 Posts
November 18 2022 16:37 GMT
#31
On November 18 2022 19:58 Seacow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2022 19:08 Iskhiaro wrote:
Feels like zoun, soo and ryung should also get mentions, they've had deep runs in tournaments people weren't expecting them to do well in before, I think they stand some long shot chance of getting deep.


SoO maybe, but I don't see Zoun or Ryung making it into top 24 playoffs.

Cheering for Astrea, Showtime, Scarlett and Solar!


I actually feel like zoun has the best chance of the 3 to get to the knockout stages, but we'll see!

I'm cheering for protoss generally, but especially creator, showtime, astrea and hero
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
November 19 2022 00:45 GMT
#32
its hard to write 20 versions of "they're good but they'll lose to serral or maru"
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
mintyminmus
Profile Joined September 2022
Australia127 Posts
November 19 2022 01:35 GMT
#33
I hope solar (or RagnaroK to a lesser degree) can produce some high quality meme footage
xyfan
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2719 Posts
November 19 2022 03:10 GMT
#34
You forgot to include Scarlett in the "People will get mad if I don't mention them" category
very illegal and very uncool
warnull
Profile Joined February 2016
United States280 Posts
November 19 2022 05:30 GMT
#35
On November 19 2022 12:10 argonautdice wrote:
You forgot to include Scarlett in the "People will get mad if I don't mention them" category


It's ok, WaxAngel mentioned Scarlett in passing in the 3rd paragraph. Plus WaxAngel is the author of "Trivial Rank: Top 5 Scarlett Hairstyles" https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/520247-the-top-5-scarlett-hairstyles so he gets a pass

KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-19 15:48:26
November 19 2022 15:47 GMT
#36
ragnarok shouldn't be at 5. i see him at 9 or 10.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
November 19 2022 17:05 GMT
#37
On November 20 2022 00:47 KalWarkov wrote:
ragnarok shouldn't be at 5. i see him at 9 or 10.


He just got second in GSL and he's already finished higher in this event than Byun and Gumiho even if he loses now...
MrIronGolem27
Profile Joined July 2020
United States229 Posts
November 20 2022 21:13 GMT
#38
It's official. Wax cursed both Serral and Maru with this prediction.
HyperONE - StarCraft Evolution League organizer, SC: Evo Complete developer, mapmaker (author of Magannatha, TLMC19 2nd place, TLMC17 3rd+5th place), Liquipedia editor
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-11-20 21:17:21
November 20 2022 21:16 GMT
#39
On November 21 2022 06:13 MrIronGolem27 wrote:
It's official. Wax cursed both Serral and Maru with this prediction.

+ Show Spoiler +
Well Maru lost 2-3 so the order remains right between the zerg and terran at least
WriterMaru
Tyrrhus
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands52 Posts
November 20 2022 22:34 GMT
#40
Nice article, also funny who turned out to be the finalists.
Tuturuu, team only macro, no micro.
Prev 1 2 3 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #140
CranKy Ducklings89
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 157
ProTech128
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 7369
Horang2 3942
GuemChi 3169
Jaedong 706
Larva 596
actioN 415
Soma 303
Mini 231
Stork 221
BeSt 218
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 149
Killer 129
ToSsGirL 110
Hyun 99
Backho 86
Rush 60
Mind 49
Sharp 35
PianO 32
NaDa 29
Icarus 20
HiyA 14
sorry 13
Bale 12
soO 11
Sacsri 9
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
Gorgc4086
singsing1480
XcaliburYe256
Counter-Strike
fl0m2376
zeus549
edward28
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor143
Other Games
B2W.Neo455
Sick260
XaKoH 119
Fuzer 51
nookyyy 21
MindelVK18
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL135
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH156
• StrangeGG 67
• LUISG 26
• Dystopia_ 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2776
• Stunt957
Upcoming Events
IPSL
6h 16m
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
LAN Event
6h 16m
Lambo vs Clem
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
BSL 21
8h 16m
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
11h 16m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 16m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d
LAN Event
1d 3h
IPSL
1d 6h
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
1d 8h
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.