• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:41
CET 10:41
KST 18:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15[BSL21] Ro.16 Group Stage (C->B->A->D)4Weekly Cups (Nov 17-23): Solar, MaxPax, Clem win3RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13
StarCraft 2
General
Narcolepsy: Symptoms, Diagnosis, and Treatment Opt Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation
Brood War
General
MBCGame Torrents Foreign Brood War BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Which season is the best in ASL?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO16 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread The Perfect Game
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Where to ask questions and add stream? The Automated Ban List
Blogs
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
Physical Exertion During Gam…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1533 users

Rogue wins 4th GSL Code S Championship - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
60 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
DERASTAT
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany99 Posts
May 08 2022 22:48 GMT
#21
Nice article, good Job, finally some appriciation of Zerg, it feels like his abusive and doint what is neccesary to win, without the desire to look pretty holds him back from beeing a fan-favorite and always beeing viewed as the villian.
Kajiu, Troll der Zerstörung
jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
May 09 2022 02:32 GMT
#22
He's the GOAT and a sexi boi. He's the sexi GOAT.
Phase 1: F2    Phase 2: A   Phase 3: Profit!
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 09 2022 04:31 GMT
#23
So basically Rogue's Achilles heel is BO5 knockout matches. And the format changed this year just to snipe him. Shame on GSL! Another reason to boycott!
gg no re thx
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
May 09 2022 06:47 GMT
#24
Damn, this is great write up from tl writer whom I used to detest before. From "The Emperor Has No Clothes: Rogue's Future Legacy" to "Rogue wins 4th GSL Code S Championship".

Rogue used to be called patchzerg but that title hasn't ever been called to the player who won a handful of championships right after he did a year before. For me, it was just inevitable that Finnish player was younger than Rogue and could do many things when competitions were not stacked as few years back. Rogue nowadays relies more in his mind-games, games sense, strategic planning and good micro but the longer the game subsides, his poor handling of units and multitasking end up costing him a game. His mechanic is no longer superior like his older days when he is about similar age as Finnish player.

Again, record is still a record, though. His impressive resume aside from the Bo7 records and undefeated streak in the offline final matches, should put himself on the top of any legendary Sc2 figures with Maru or Innovation only come to contest.




Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
391 Posts
May 09 2022 08:30 GMT
#25
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 09 2022 08:39 GMT
#26
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2216 Posts
May 09 2022 09:20 GMT
#27
Great recap, thank you.

I was rooting for Creator, but hard to look past Rogue.

I wish the finals would go back to being on a weekend
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1371 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-09 11:19:43
May 09 2022 11:17 GMT
#28
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?
puking up frothing vitriolic sarcastic spittle
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
May 09 2022 17:38 GMT
#29
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
194 Posts
May 09 2022 18:20 GMT
#30
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol




Zerg has always been strong, just took a while for people to figure out the game in WOL, as soon as you stay in a stable meta where patch changes are minimal zerg always dominate because the other 2 races cant create new problems for Zerg to solve at the highest level, this is why zerg needs to get nerfed and nerfed hard
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16017 Posts
May 09 2022 19:07 GMT
#31
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol

and soO
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 09 2022 20:40 GMT
#32
On May 10 2022 04:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol

and soO


Fruitdealer did it on maps like Desert Oasis and Kulas Ravine where getting a second base was almost impossible .
I bear this sig to commemorate the loss of the team icon that commemorated Oversky's 2008-2009 Proleague Round 1 performance.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
May 09 2022 20:55 GMT
#33
On May 10 2022 05:40 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2022 04:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol

and soO


Fruitdealer did it on maps like Desert Oasis and Kulas Ravine where getting a second base was almost impossible .

but Fruitdealer had a very short reign
"Expert" mods4ever.com
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26184 Posts
May 10 2022 14:32 GMT
#34
Great recap, Rogue’s set differential in finals is absolutely silly
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 10 2022 20:12 GMT
#35
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.

That seems really silly to say when Serral beat Rogue 3-0 in the semis of IEM Katowice, not particularly a minor tournament. I don't think Semis and Finals differ enough from one another to state it'd be a brutal stomp in any event.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26184 Posts
May 10 2022 21:52 GMT
#36
On May 11 2022 05:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.

That seems really silly to say when Serral beat Rogue 3-0 in the semis of IEM Katowice, not particularly a minor tournament. I don't think Semis and Finals differ enough from one another to state it'd be a brutal stomp in any event.

Such are mirrors, ZvZ especially you seem to get a lot of sweeps where actually the individual games are pretty tight, or a few gambles paying off here, a misread there and it’s a sweep.

I’d slightly favour Rogue in this current meta to be fair, he’s a tricky customer with everything in his locker, and it’s quite a tricky and volatile matchup.

There was a previous meta where everything was pretty stable into roach/latterly viper wars and Serral was untouchable in the matchup.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 10 2022 22:17 GMT
#37
On May 11 2022 06:52 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2022 05:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.

That seems really silly to say when Serral beat Rogue 3-0 in the semis of IEM Katowice, not particularly a minor tournament. I don't think Semis and Finals differ enough from one another to state it'd be a brutal stomp in any event.

Such are mirrors, ZvZ especially you seem to get a lot of sweeps where actually the individual games are pretty tight, or a few gambles paying off here, a misread there and it’s a sweep.

I’d slightly favour Rogue in this current meta to be fair, he’s a tricky customer with everything in his locker, and it’s quite a tricky and volatile matchup.

There was a previous meta where everything was pretty stable into roach/latterly viper wars and Serral was untouchable in the matchup.

Wasn't objecting to Rogue being a favorite - I think it'd be a tossup and more dependent on the form of the day - but rather their statement that Serral wouldn't have a chance against Rogue and that it'd be a brutal stomp - this has been proven to be incorrect plenty.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
May 11 2022 04:59 GMT
#38
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.


That's why Serral does the 1000iq thing and take out Rogue 3-0 before he reaches the finals. To truly beat Rogue you have to prevent him from getting into a best of 7. Realistically though, I think guys like Serral, Reynor, Maru, Rogue can take out each other on any given day.
661
Profile Joined May 2018
71 Posts
May 11 2022 06:32 GMT
#39
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.


Do you even watch SC nowdays?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-11 07:13:36
May 11 2022 06:58 GMT
#40
On May 11 2022 15:32 661 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.


Do you even watch SC nowdays?


He was referring to Serral's brutal series swept in their recent final match meeting. Nothing personal though.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17h 19m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech131
SortOf 121
Reynor 91
trigger 12
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 773
BeSt 326
910 317
Killer 228
ZerO 223
Larva 179
Sharp 172
Leta 161
Zeus 126
JulyZerg 112
[ Show more ]
Shine 59
Light 59
Dewaltoss 53
ToSsGirL 48
zelot 45
NotJumperer 31
Shinee 30
Sacsri 15
Noble 14
Hm[arnc] 12
soO 8
Terrorterran 4
Dota 2
singsing2530
NeuroSwarm61
League of Legends
JimRising 609
C9.Mang0294
Counter-Strike
olofmeister765
shoxiejesuss667
allub23
Super Smash Bros
Westballz13
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor144
Other Games
summit1g8669
Mew2King3393
ceh9444
crisheroes386
Happy286
XaKoH 243
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota240
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
17h 19m
CranKy Ducklings
1d
WardiTV 2025
1d 2h
SC Evo League
1d 2h
IPSL
1d 7h
Dewalt vs ZZZero
BSL 21
1d 10h
Sziky vs OyAji
Gypsy vs eOnzErG
OSC
1d 12h
Solar vs Creator
ByuN vs Gerald
Percival vs Babymarine
Moja vs Krystianer
EnDerr vs ForJumy
sebesdes vs Nicoract
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV 2025
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs KameZerg
BSL 21
2 days
Bonyth vs StRyKeR
Tarson vs Dandy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
StarCraft2.fi
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV 2025
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
4 days
PiGosaur Monday
4 days
StarCraft2.fi
5 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
WardiTV 2025
6 days
StarCraft2.fi
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-30
RSL Revival: Season 3
Light HT

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
Slon Tour Season 2
Acropolis #4 - TS3
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
Kuram Kup
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.