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Rogue wins 4th GSL Code S Championship - Page 2

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DERASTAT
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany99 Posts
May 08 2022 22:48 GMT
#21
Nice article, good Job, finally some appriciation of Zerg, it feels like his abusive and doint what is neccesary to win, without the desire to look pretty holds him back from beeing a fan-favorite and always beeing viewed as the villian.
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jy_9876543210
Profile Joined March 2016
265 Posts
May 09 2022 02:32 GMT
#22
He's the GOAT and a sexi boi. He's the sexi GOAT.
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RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 09 2022 04:31 GMT
#23
So basically Rogue's Achilles heel is BO5 knockout matches. And the format changed this year just to snipe him. Shame on GSL! Another reason to boycott!
gg no re thx
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
May 09 2022 06:47 GMT
#24
Damn, this is great write up from tl writer whom I used to detest before. From "The Emperor Has No Clothes: Rogue's Future Legacy" to "Rogue wins 4th GSL Code S Championship".

Rogue used to be called patchzerg but that title hasn't ever been called to the player who won a handful of championships right after he did a year before. For me, it was just inevitable that Finnish player was younger than Rogue and could do many things when competitions were not stacked as few years back. Rogue nowadays relies more in his mind-games, games sense, strategic planning and good micro but the longer the game subsides, his poor handling of units and multitasking end up costing him a game. His mechanic is no longer superior like his older days when he is about similar age as Finnish player.

Again, record is still a record, though. His impressive resume aside from the Bo7 records and undefeated streak in the offline final matches, should put himself on the top of any legendary Sc2 figures with Maru or Innovation only come to contest.




Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
386 Posts
May 09 2022 08:30 GMT
#25
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
May 09 2022 08:39 GMT
#26
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2215 Posts
May 09 2022 09:20 GMT
#27
Great recap, thank you.

I was rooting for Creator, but hard to look past Rogue.

I wish the finals would go back to being on a weekend
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MJG
Profile Joined May 2018
United Kingdom1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-09 11:19:43
May 09 2022 11:17 GMT
#28
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
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I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17677 Posts
May 09 2022 17:38 GMT
#29
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol
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Drahkn
Profile Joined June 2021
192 Posts
May 09 2022 18:20 GMT
#30
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol




Zerg has always been strong, just took a while for people to figure out the game in WOL, as soon as you stay in a stable meta where patch changes are minimal zerg always dominate because the other 2 races cant create new problems for Zerg to solve at the highest level, this is why zerg needs to get nerfed and nerfed hard
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15972 Posts
May 09 2022 19:07 GMT
#31
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol

and soO
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
May 09 2022 20:40 GMT
#32
On May 10 2022 04:07 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol

and soO


Fruitdealer did it on maps like Desert Oasis and Kulas Ravine where getting a second base was almost impossible .
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17677 Posts
May 09 2022 20:55 GMT
#33
On May 10 2022 05:40 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2022 04:07 Charoisaur wrote:
On May 10 2022 02:38 Die4Ever wrote:
On May 09 2022 20:17 MJG wrote:
Creator went on a dream run to get to the finals. I doubt anyone would've predicted he could make it this far. It's a shame he wasn't able to get over the final hurdle, but he took two games more than I thought he would. In the end, Rogue seemed better prepared and deserved to pick up the win, so congratulations to Rogue.

On May 09 2022 03:02 Elentos wrote:
On May 09 2022 02:58 Durnuu wrote:
He's still a + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I think this raises the deeply philosophical question whether Patchzergs still exist if every patch ends up being good for Zerg

You could call them "Expansionzergs" instead, I suppose?

NesTea and Life did it while Zerg was weak, or at best balanced lol

and soO


Fruitdealer did it on maps like Desert Oasis and Kulas Ravine where getting a second base was almost impossible .

but Fruitdealer had a very short reign
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25574 Posts
May 10 2022 14:32 GMT
#34
Great recap, Rogue’s set differential in finals is absolutely silly
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 10 2022 20:12 GMT
#35
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.

That seems really silly to say when Serral beat Rogue 3-0 in the semis of IEM Katowice, not particularly a minor tournament. I don't think Semis and Finals differ enough from one another to state it'd be a brutal stomp in any event.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25574 Posts
May 10 2022 21:52 GMT
#36
On May 11 2022 05:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.

That seems really silly to say when Serral beat Rogue 3-0 in the semis of IEM Katowice, not particularly a minor tournament. I don't think Semis and Finals differ enough from one another to state it'd be a brutal stomp in any event.

Such are mirrors, ZvZ especially you seem to get a lot of sweeps where actually the individual games are pretty tight, or a few gambles paying off here, a misread there and it’s a sweep.

I’d slightly favour Rogue in this current meta to be fair, he’s a tricky customer with everything in his locker, and it’s quite a tricky and volatile matchup.

There was a previous meta where everything was pretty stable into roach/latterly viper wars and Serral was untouchable in the matchup.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
May 10 2022 22:17 GMT
#37
On May 11 2022 06:52 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2022 05:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.

That seems really silly to say when Serral beat Rogue 3-0 in the semis of IEM Katowice, not particularly a minor tournament. I don't think Semis and Finals differ enough from one another to state it'd be a brutal stomp in any event.

Such are mirrors, ZvZ especially you seem to get a lot of sweeps where actually the individual games are pretty tight, or a few gambles paying off here, a misread there and it’s a sweep.

I’d slightly favour Rogue in this current meta to be fair, he’s a tricky customer with everything in his locker, and it’s quite a tricky and volatile matchup.

There was a previous meta where everything was pretty stable into roach/latterly viper wars and Serral was untouchable in the matchup.

Wasn't objecting to Rogue being a favorite - I think it'd be a tossup and more dependent on the form of the day - but rather their statement that Serral wouldn't have a chance against Rogue and that it'd be a brutal stomp - this has been proven to be incorrect plenty.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
May 11 2022 04:59 GMT
#38
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.


That's why Serral does the 1000iq thing and take out Rogue 3-0 before he reaches the finals. To truly beat Rogue you have to prevent him from getting into a best of 7. Realistically though, I think guys like Serral, Reynor, Maru, Rogue can take out each other on any given day.
661
Profile Joined May 2018
71 Posts
May 11 2022 06:32 GMT
#39
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.


Do you even watch SC nowdays?
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-05-11 07:13:36
May 11 2022 06:58 GMT
#40
On May 11 2022 15:32 661 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2022 17:39 MarianoSC2 wrote:
On May 09 2022 17:30 lechatnoir wrote:
As much as I'm sick of ZvZ finals I want another vs Serral. There hasn't been a finals between them except TSL8 right?


Serral does not have a chance against Rogue in the finals, it would be a brutal stomp. To truly challenge Rogue, it would have to be against Reynor. He would be a threat with his aggressive style and mind games which sometimes can even rival Rogue.


Do you even watch SC nowdays?


He was referring to Serral's brutal series swept in their recent final match meeting. Nothing personal though.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
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