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Code S: Zest defeats Rogue, advances to finals

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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
September 29 2021 10:54 GMT
#15
On September 29 2021 19:14 swarminfestor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2021 17:46 daskleinehotte wrote:
On September 29 2021 14:21 FataLe wrote:
Has anyone ever won their last GSL?


No, as far as I've checked it nobody comes even close.
Most of the odd one of winners (RorO, Sniper, Seed, etc.) tried it a couple of more times after their wins.
All the early winners (Mvp, Fruitdealer, NesTea, MC) kept trying it long after their peak had passed.
From 2016 onwards most of the GSL winners are either still competing or even came back from the military.

The players who come the closest to winning the GSL before retiring / going to the military are TY and Rain. Both won their second to last GSL (TY GSL S3 2020; Rain GSL S2 2015) but both ended up in 13-16th place in the group stages of their last GSL.

If Zest retires after this one, he will definitely be the player with the best result in his last GSL - no matter if he gets second place or even win the whole thing.



Right? With a third GSL win, it definitely bolstered his resume to the higher among the GOAT players like Maru, Innovation and Rogue even surpassing the Protoss GOAT contenders like MC, sOs, Rain, Stats, Classic and Trap. Besides sOs and Parting, Zest also has bagged one gold and two silvers for his world championship run.


Adds a nice symmetry to his career too, winning his first and last GSL entries.
aringadingding
Profile Joined September 2010
479 Posts
September 29 2021 11:37 GMT
#16
Zest, what a beast!
and also, damn the SK army....
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 29 2021 12:39 GMT
#17
On September 29 2021 14:21 FataLe wrote:
Has anyone ever won their last GSL?

Zest is also a royal roader. There might need to be a new term for someone who wins their last starleague as well.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
freelifeffs
Profile Joined April 2018
97 Posts
September 29 2021 12:55 GMT
#18
ZESTUUUUU~~~
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
September 29 2021 15:51 GMT
#19
Honestly I hope he loses. I just can't like the guy after all the allegations.
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Elantris
Profile Joined June 2018
66 Posts
September 29 2021 17:10 GMT
#20
On September 30 2021 00:51 [Phantom] wrote:
Honestly I hope he loses. I just can't like the guy after all the allegations.


What allegations?
Gilgamesh_
Profile Joined September 2021
36 Posts
September 29 2021 18:45 GMT
#21
On September 30 2021 02:10 Elantris wrote:
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On September 30 2021 00:51 [Phantom] wrote:
Honestly I hope he loses. I just can't like the guy after all the allegations.


What allegations?


That he is too good looking to be real, maybe?
tommey.liang
Profile Joined November 2020
United States363 Posts
September 29 2021 19:03 GMT
#22
Definitely an all-time classic series!! Zest was able to snap Rogue's insane streak and reach a GSL finals before eventual SC2 retirement/military.

To me Zest vs. Rogue seemed like a de facto GSL finals for sure. Up next is Cure vs. Trap in the other semifinal.
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Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden592 Posts
September 29 2021 20:58 GMT
#23
I am waiting for the "winning the last offline match before retirement" to mess with the Unoffial WC title. It will be Bear 2.0.
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
September 29 2021 21:04 GMT
#24
Zest bringing the builds and playing brillantly... nothing less would've defeated Rugue.
I hope he wins this GSL, becoming the Protoss GOAT in his last match. Beautiful history.
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Garbo1
Profile Joined July 2020
49 Posts
September 30 2021 02:38 GMT
#25
I certainly didn't expect this outcome.

Now I'm rooting for Zest. I'm not a fan of Cure either, but I just want Trap to lose. He is the most boringest player of all time.
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-30 20:49:57
September 30 2021 20:49 GMT
#26
was there a semifinal or final that ended 4-0 in kr?
I find it hard to believe that everything is 3-2, 4-3 etc.
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Obamarauder
Profile Joined June 2015
697 Posts
September 30 2021 21:45 GMT
#27
On October 01 2021 05:49 xsnac wrote:
was there a semifinal or final that ended 4-0 in kr?
I find it hard to believe that everything is 3-2, 4-3 etc.


of course there is. rogue 4-0 trap in a finals
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
September 30 2021 23:01 GMT
#28
On September 30 2021 02:10 Elantris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2021 00:51 [Phantom] wrote:
Honestly I hope he loses. I just can't like the guy after all the allegations.


What allegations?


https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/561363-betting-suspicious-activity-detected
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
October 01 2021 09:36 GMT
#29
On October 01 2021 08:01 [Phantom] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2021 02:10 Elantris wrote:
On September 30 2021 00:51 [Phantom] wrote:
Honestly I hope he loses. I just can't like the guy after all the allegations.


What allegations?


https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/561363-betting-suspicious-activity-detected

Isn't that outdated though? I highly doubt Zest is matchfixing
WriterMaru
tigera6
Profile Joined March 2021
3454 Posts
October 01 2021 10:41 GMT
#30
Isnt that just Zest being Zest? He is always capable of losing 0-3 and winning 3-0 to the same opponent in 24hrs?
Gina
Profile Joined July 2019
241 Posts
October 01 2021 12:29 GMT
#31
Of course it is. Just look at who's kicked him out of the last ESL open cup. Admittedly he was probably playing drunk after his GSL win, but even so.
Omit needles swords.
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-01 13:50:50
October 01 2021 12:31 GMT
#32
On October 01 2021 08:01 [Phantom] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2021 02:10 Elantris wrote:
On September 30 2021 00:51 [Phantom] wrote:
Honestly I hope he loses. I just can't like the guy after all the allegations.


What allegations?


https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/561363-betting-suspicious-activity-detected

Everyone who follows Zest knows that sometimes he just plays weird and off or makes strange choices. Those matches were not unusual at all Especially when he's a guy who plays hundreds of online and insignificant matches every year and experiments around with different styles more than any other protoss.

He was favoured to win and rightfully so, but for the first two games, Zest basically played with only 2 gases, building up a Gateway army against Terran bio while floating 1K minerals.

Yeah and this turned out to be how Zest would play PvT going forward. There's nothing wrong with trying out new styles in some random online matches and them not working the first few times.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
KwoM
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore108 Posts
October 01 2021 16:53 GMT
#33
Wasn't it typical Zest macro to float 1k minerals as well
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
October 03 2021 12:11 GMT
#34
This has to be one of the greatest bo7 victories of all time.

Zest wasn't just fighting Rogue and matchpoints, he was fighting history. And somehow he managed to find a way out despite looking super dead in both of the last two games.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
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