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Waxangel
United States30065 Posts
 ByuN has tweeted that he will seek treatment for his wrists, which have been plagued by chronic pain and numbness for several years. Though ByuN's wrist issue has rarely been an issue in online competition, it has flared up in his last four GSL matches in the AfreecaTV studio (ByuN lost each time).
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Poopi
France10118 Posts
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vyzion
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digmouse
China5733 Posts
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Waxangel
United States30065 Posts
On April 14 2021 02:37 vyzion wrote: Glad to hear it! Very curious about what the issue is and why it seems to flare up during GSL events more than online at home. In some ways it's a blessing in disguise that there are so many online tournaments during the time he returned well ByuN himself has suggested it could be stress or the discomfort of playing on a different chair/desk setup in the studio | ||
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CatheadSC2
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic11107 Posts
On April 14 2021 02:49 digmouse wrote: So TLO in WTL then? TLO hexagon hype!!! On April 14 2021 02:08 Waxangel wrote: ByuN has tweeted that he will seek treatment for his wrists, which have been plagued by chronic pain and numbness for several years. Though ByuN's wrist issue has rarely been an issue in online competition, it has flared up in his last four GSL outings in the AfreecaTV studio (ByuN lost his match each time).https://twitter.com/SC2ByuN/status/1381982417150353408 Finally. I hope it wasn't too late. | ||
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Serimek
France2235 Posts
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Liquid`TLO
Germany764 Posts
On April 14 2021 02:49 digmouse wrote: So TLO in WTL then? Maybe some time but Byun will still compete while getting treatment. I've made it clear he can take breaks whenever but he hasn't had any problems playing WTL so far. | ||
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tommey.liang
87 Posts
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DarkGamer
Germany200 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic11107 Posts
On April 14 2021 06:54 Liquid`TLO wrote: Maybe some time but Byun will still compete while getting treatment. I've made it clear he can take breaks whenever but he hasn't had any problems playing WTL so far. And the hexagon hype is over :D | ||
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blunderfulguy
United States1392 Posts
I'm not the only one that think it's still odd that players and teams don't stipulate certain desk and chair heights in order to play when it comes down to risking short and long term injury, right? | ||
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Torrathyr
Canada79 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic11107 Posts
On April 17 2021 16:57 Torrathyr wrote: Wait, does the GSL setup not have an adjustable desk? C'mon, for being the "Global standard" for "the most competitive 1v1 game" you'd think they'd have the best set-up available to players. Moving desks would break up the studio set up. This is the big problem when the television comes in place. On April 15 2021 12:57 blunderfulguy wrote: I hope height adjustable desks become standard for offline games. We're so overdue for that, SC2 is almost entirely a 1v1 game and we've known about this stuff for sooo long. Or higher standards for chairs, or just having a few extra chairs around that can be adjusted a little bit higher, something. I'm not the only one that think it's still odd that players and teams don't stipulate certain desk and chair heights in order to play when it comes down to risking short and long term injury, right? Uh, you realize that the gaming chairs are actually worse than the best ergonomic office chairs? But hey, I would love to see gamers playing on the best ergonomy as well, so maybe they will change that. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10699 Posts
On April 19 2021 23:25 deacon.frost wrote: Moving desks would break up the studio set up. This is the big problem when the television comes in place. Uh, you realize that the gaming chairs are actually worse than the best ergonomic office chairs? But hey, I would love to see gamers playing on the best ergonomy as well, so maybe they will change that.Honest opinion: If you cannot even play for an hour without debilitating pain in your wrist and you are the only player in the competition to which this happens, then the problem is your wrist and not the environment even if the latter is suboptimal. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland15751 Posts
On April 20 2021 16:52 JustPassingBy wrote: Honest opinion: If you cannot even play for an hour without debilitating pain in your wrist and you are the only player in the competition to which this happens, then the problem is your wrist and not the environment even if the latter is suboptimal. Some accommodation is still in order, it’s a pretty minor issue to resolve. Given Byun doesn’t seem to have these issues as badly on his own setup, at least give the option to replicate that. Ultimately it was only through discussions on Byun’s issues I even found out the GSL wasn’t really doing this, which was a genuine surprise not just in terms of injuries and comfort. Players already have that psychological pressure of being in the booth, within reason they should be able to mirror their preferred setups in order to deliver the best gameplay they’re able to. Aside from that if accommodations have been made and you can’t smoothly make it through a day’s play, then you’re like any other sports star who is carrying an injury and not fit to play. | ||
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warnull
United States149 Posts
On April 20 2021 16:52 JustPassingBy wrote: Honest opinion: If you cannot even play for an hour without debilitating pain in your wrist and you are the only player in the competition to which this happens, then the problem is your wrist and not the environment even if the latter is suboptimal. - Almost all top pros have documented injuries with their wrists or shoulders. - Byun wrist problems that show up at GSL do not appear at home. Keep in mind that these players are operating at peak performance with insanely high APMs for long periods. It's not surprising that a hastily assembled chair/desk setup wouldn't be suitable for some of them. In my opinion GSL should provide a playing environment that can sustain the level of effort the players put out. GSL would not be as prestigious if Byun were excluded because its physical setup is a health hazard for him. Scarlett has mentioned some of the problems with the GSL environment in an earlier post: https://tl.net/forum/sc2-tournaments/571101-gsl-2021-code-a-day-two?page=3#46 | ||
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lechatnoir
277 Posts
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ReZero
United Kingdom18 Posts
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