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Code S RO8 Preview: DRG vs INnoVation, Dream vs Rogue

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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 29 2020 08:23 GMT
#29
I dont see Dream beating Rogue, even on this patch
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PyroNswe
Profile Joined March 2020
Sweden23 Posts
July 29 2020 08:45 GMT
#30
So hyped for this! who doesn't love a top-level TvZ? I think this can go both ways though. INno is INno, but DRG is looking scary again nowdays.

3-1 INno or 3-2 DRG
"The Terran army, Is better than your army" -RotterdaM
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
July 29 2020 08:49 GMT
#31
On July 29 2020 17:23 Geo.Rion wrote:
I dont see Dream beating Rogue, even on this patch

Did you see Dream beating Ragnarok, sOs, DRG, Trap and Solar? While Maru got knocked out by Solar and Trap Dream went out of his group in first place against the very same opponents that defeated Maru, in the same matchups.

I can definitely see it, even if its not the result i predict.

Maru, Bomber, TY, Dear, Classic, DeParture and Rogue!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
July 29 2020 09:12 GMT
#32
TBH a vote for Dream is more of a vote for "Rogue is gonna cruise until Katowice 2021"
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
July 29 2020 10:30 GMT
#33
On July 29 2020 10:22 AxiomBlurr wrote:
I have DRG 3 -1 Inno. DRG knows his only way to lose is if Inno can cheese or harass him, He will play safe early and then POWER ZERG stomp the Terran like in the Ro16.

Dream V Rogue can go either way. Personally I hope Dream cos he has been putting in super hard work recently.

Somehow this is exactly what happened.
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umelbumel
Profile Joined January 2011
2026 Posts
July 29 2020 10:30 GMT
#34
DRG read this predictions and was like nope.
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
July 29 2020 10:48 GMT
#35
On July 29 2020 19:30 umelbumel wrote:
DRG read this predictions and was like nope.


Hey, you there, did you not read my post?
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
July 29 2020 10:55 GMT
#36
On July 29 2020 19:30 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 10:22 AxiomBlurr wrote:
I have DRG 3 -1 Inno. DRG knows his only way to lose is if Inno can cheese or harass him, He will play safe early and then POWER ZERG stomp the Terran like in the Ro16.

Dream V Rogue can go either way. Personally I hope Dream cos he has been putting in super hard work recently.

Somehow this is exactly what happened.


After watching the replays of last week of DRG smash facing, I felt this was the only option.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
July 29 2020 11:39 GMT
#37
On July 29 2020 17:49 Shuffleblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 17:23 Geo.Rion wrote:
I dont see Dream beating Rogue, even on this patch

Did you see Dream beating Ragnarok, sOs, DRG, Trap and Solar? While Maru got knocked out by Solar and Trap Dream went out of his group in first place against the very same opponents that defeated Maru, in the same matchups.

I can definitely see it, even if its not the result i predict.


sure, but he still fairly hit or miss, and has lost each encounter he had vs Rogue, so my money is/was on Rogue. Not over yet, so let s see
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-29 12:43:13
July 29 2020 12:43 GMT
#38
never been so glad to be so wrong
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2601 Posts
July 29 2020 12:53 GMT
#39
TL writeups never fail to amuse, I have to give you that. :D
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Locutos
Profile Joined January 2017
Brazil271 Posts
July 29 2020 20:02 GMT
#40
On July 29 2020 01:53 yht9657 wrote:
I used to hate Rogue for abusing all those zerg bullshit like nydushost, but now I just find it incredibly halirious when everyone is hyping Serral, Reynor and Maru Rogue just casually stomps everyone, does an awful celebration and admits he's a partchzerg.

Definitely my favorite Zerg now.


Ive never seen Serral get stomped. Rogue i have. Rogue's slumps are real. Serral's are non existent.
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
July 29 2020 20:14 GMT
#41
"As for INnoVation, he was typically nonplussed about having to face DongRaeGu in the quarterfinals."

I don't think that word means what you think it means. Although he may have been after that performance.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
Fej
Profile Joined July 2011
Hungary26 Posts
July 29 2020 21:24 GMT
#42
On July 29 2020 01:53 yht9657 wrote:
I used to hate Rogue for abusing all those zerg bullshit like nydushost, but now I just find it incredibly halirious when everyone is hyping Serral, Reynor and Maru Rogue just casually stomps everyone, does an awful celebration and admits he's a partchzerg.

Definitely my favorite Zerg now.


Where does he did that awful celebration and admits he's a patchzerg?
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States880 Posts
July 29 2020 22:18 GMT
#43
On July 30 2020 06:24 Fej wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2020 01:53 yht9657 wrote:
I used to hate Rogue for abusing all those zerg bullshit like nydushost, but now I just find it incredibly halirious when everyone is hyping Serral, Reynor and Maru Rogue just casually stomps everyone, does an awful celebration and admits he's a partchzerg.

Definitely my favorite Zerg now.


Where does he did that awful celebration and admits he's a patchzerg?


Not sure about the awful celebration, but he did raise some eyebrows when he talked about how strong zerg was at the time he won his GSL last year - it's been kinda rare for pros to admit such things.
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[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
July 29 2020 22:55 GMT
#44
The DRG versus Innovation matches were quite surprising. How can he be so strong?
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Mettis
Profile Joined June 2019
84 Posts
July 29 2020 23:11 GMT
#45
On July 30 2020 07:55 [F_]aths wrote:
The DRG versus Innovation matches were quite surprising. How can he be so strong?


DRG has always been a mechanical beast with very few mistakes and maybe the highest ceiling of the basics of the game. He was always flawed with build selection, innovating and nerves. If he is studying Serral he has everything he needs to copy strong styles and become one of the best again.

The time away from the game seems to have really chilled and refocused him and allowed him to reflect, especially on the loss vs MC in the semis which really damaged him
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19300 Posts
July 30 2020 00:33 GMT
#46
On July 29 2020 21:43 Waxangel wrote:
never been so glad to be so wrong

I'm so disappointed in you for continuing a results discussion in a preview thread.

Just a PSA, I am going to skip warnings and start temp bans for people who post any form of results in this thread. Posters better hope other mods show up first. Everyone above who posted spoilers please move your text into spoiler tags.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33505 Posts
July 30 2020 03:30 GMT
#47
On July 30 2020 05:14 Arghmyliver wrote:
"As for INnoVation, he was typically nonplussed about having to face DongRaeGu in the quarterfinals."

I don't think that word means what you think it means. Although he may have been after that performance.


actually, it's one of those stupid english words that can be used to mean two opposite things XD
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Arghmyliver
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1077 Posts
July 31 2020 14:19 GMT
#48
On July 30 2020 12:30 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2020 05:14 Arghmyliver wrote:
"As for INnoVation, he was typically nonplussed about having to face DongRaeGu in the quarterfinals."

I don't think that word means what you think it means. Although he may have been after that performance.


actually, it's one of those stupid english words that can be used to mean two opposite things XD


I dunno, it's not so much a contronym as it is one of those words where some dictionary definitions have been updated to include a note that "Americans frequently use this word incorrectly."

"non·plussed
/nänˈpləst/

adjective: nonplussed; adjective: non-plussed
1.
(of a person) surprised and confused so much that they are unsure how to react.
"he would be completely nonplussed and embarrassed at the idea"

2.
INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN (Read: ERRONEOUS)
(of a person) not disconcerted; unperturbed.

Regardless, congrats to DRG.
Now witness their attempts to fly from tree to tree. Notice they do not so much fly as plummet.
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