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RoninKenshin
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada97 Posts
June 10 2020 08:23 GMT
#21
On June 10 2020 09:59 SupremeMaddox wrote:
If you were experienced in this business, you could've avoided all of this by writing the contract.
This is also part your fault NOT CLARIFYING all the terms within papers.
If you were that naive with that experience you had in prior, then you have a problem.


Even if they had notarized contracts, it wouldn't do any good if a party did not follow in good faith. Where I'm from, hiring a lawyer to sue requires around a minimum $2000 retainer that you will not get back. Any time a retainer or legal fees exceed the damaged pursued, there is no point in suing. If I filed myself, the base court filing fees start at $200, and go up depending on what I need to file. And that would only be enforceable to residents of your own city/state/province/country. I could sue a guy in Uzbekistan and win all day, but not see a penny except those coming out of my own pocket.

The point is, verbal or good faith is just as good as a contract for such small sums of money and work. If a kid mows my lawn for $20, we don't sign a contract. This guy sounds like he was just being nice, and happened to get taken advantage of.

The only thing that needs to change here is the use of Chief _____ titles in esports organizations.
I'm with e-sports
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6992 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-10 10:56:35
June 10 2020 08:30 GMT
#22
Probably different countries and all, but in Germany a verbal contract is indeed binding.

Though mostly used for small things because of the word against word dilemma in court

EDIT:

This issue has been resolved. Locking the thread.


Who? What? Where? How so?

not cool ...
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
June 10 2020 08:52 GMT
#23
On June 10 2020 17:30 Harris1st wrote:
Probably different countries and all, but in Germany a verbal contract is indeed binding.

Though mostly used for small things because of the word against word dilemma in court

Yeah was thinking about the same thing.
Unless there are specific laws that require you to make the contract writen (for example when buying a house), the form the the contract doesn t matter here. Obviously it s way easier to proof what was agreed on in court, if it s writen down. So everything to small to go to court for, it s absolutly reasonable to not put extra effort into putting up a written paper, as it wouldn t matter anyways. It comes down to trust then.
I gues in this case, even though the amount of money in question is rather small, writing it down, what the exact duties were, would be quite helpfull...
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dbRic1203
Profile Joined July 2019
Germany2655 Posts
June 10 2020 09:04 GMT
#24
On June 10 2020 06:36 HKPereira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2020 06:29 mikedupp wrote:
Will wait for team GP to make a reply before passing judgement


They created a awnser already, u can check here:
and in TeamGP official twitter.

I can t find it there, maybe they ve taken it down?
https://twitter.com/TeamGP8
There is a link to their Patreon Page though, with a jucy subscriber count of 0

I feel like they are wasting quite some potential here..
Super was one of the better players of GTC and Qualified for Code S
Bomber is probably nowhere near his prime, but still has some fans, that are hard stuck in 2014
If they are half as passionate as the Polt fan club, they d happily watch his stream and also support him and his team
Prince is new blood of Code S and has an aura of mystery around him, should be able to capitalise on that as well.

But with how it looks they are not going to make that happen anytime soon..
MaxPax
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19295 Posts
June 10 2020 09:59 GMT
#25
This issue has been resolved. Locking the thread.
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