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Arasul
Profile Joined December 2019
2 Posts
January 16 2020 22:32 GMT
#1
Not like anyone here care, but for the record if you wonder why ""casual"" gamers are dropping this game, this is (yet) another reason.

same clan players (IsImba) are tagging separalty on 4v4 in order to end up on opposite team (4v4 queue is small) , and grief by teamkilling to achieve GM. Another peak achievement of sc2 community behavior.

And i do know you 1v1 tryharder do not care at all about team games, but each
""casual"" ( non 1v1 focused ) player that leave is still a loss for a decreasing community.

That said , i'm back to 1v1 and better team games .

https://drop.sc/replay/12960141 warning : salt inside


AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
January 17 2020 01:55 GMT
#2
That sucks, sorry to hear this happens. I hope you reported this to Blizzard.
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
January 17 2020 02:06 GMT
#3
The term "match-fixing" has a different meaning to most people on this site (see Savior/Life), but pulling sad stupid stunts like this is still really annoying. Sorry to hear about it.
Assuming that this is the same IsImba that people like Strelok were on years ago they sank pretty low, they used to be a pretty legit team/clan.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16095 Posts
January 17 2020 03:06 GMT
#4
This is absolutely against the ToS and Blizzard can and will ban them for it if they receive enough reports on it.

I haven't seen it myself, but I'm on NA and you haven't revealed what server this is on.

Send the replay to Blizz. Send every replay you've seen of it to Blizz. If we're lucky these idiots will get a fat ban like they deserve.
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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-17 06:18:41
January 17 2020 04:39 GMT
#5
Ya that's shit, but with that said, does 4v4 ladders need to exist?

I never queue in 3v3-4v4, but would abolishing mmr for those format all togheter be better?
I imagine ranked must be pretty dead and not really a correct mesure of the player skills, maybe having a single mixed queue for 3v3 and 4v4 would be better.
With that said I that said I don't play in it so IDK.
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
January 17 2020 08:07 GMT
#6
On January 17 2020 13:39 Nakajin wrote:
Ya that's shit, but with that said, does 4v4 ladders need to exist?

I never queue in 3v3-4v4, but would abolishing mmr for those format all togheter be better?
I imagine ranked must be pretty dead and not really a correct mesure of the player skills, maybe having a single mixed queue for 3v3 and 4v4 would be better.
With that said I that said I don't play in it so IDK.


3v3 and 4v4 are extremely different playmodes.
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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
January 17 2020 08:20 GMT
#7
I've never met isIMBA players on ladder who didn't ruin the fun somehow either by doing shit like this, or just by being edgy douchebags spamming the chat with Nazi phrases and stuff like that. I just tend to leave the game now whenever I see that clan tag.
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IncarnatioN_
Profile Joined April 2018
Russian Federation38 Posts
January 17 2020 08:30 GMT
#8
isIMBA is 95% toxic/bm/ruiners/abusers and other 5% are people who haven't been playing the game for past 2 years
2020 is the year of terrans (i hope)
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
January 17 2020 09:04 GMT
#9
Sounds like isImba members for sure.
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Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1926 Posts
January 17 2020 09:49 GMT
#10
One replay does not prove much. If you want Blizzard to do something, you should do more research on 4v4 match histories and try to prove the use of alt-accounts etc. to climb the team ladder.

Even throwing one game against a teammate should not get you banned imo.

It also seems like a very troublesome way to climb, needing some stellar coordination and several people online.
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Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
January 17 2020 21:36 GMT
#11
Yeah. Those guys suck. Really really BM...


Report and move on.
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Majick
Profile Joined August 2016
416 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-17 23:36:48
January 17 2020 23:36 GMT
#12
There is no GM in 4v4. Anyway I also don't think they are trying to climb the ladder, that would be quite difficult since you can't control which team you will end up with. Most probably just BM/trolling.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
January 18 2020 01:12 GMT
#13
On January 18 2020 08:36 Majick wrote:
There is no GM in 4v4. Anyway I also don't think they are trying to climb the ladder, that would be quite difficult since you can't control which team you will end up with. Most probably just BM/trolling.


Seriously. 4v4 isn't competitive either. How do you even pop a queue in 4v4? Last time I tried, it took over 15 minutes.

It sounds like the only way these people were even getting queues were because the isImba people were queuing.
Cereal
Woosixion
Profile Joined February 2012
120 Posts
January 18 2020 04:22 GMT
#14
I wonder why 4v4 is so dead anyway, it can be fun when you dont have this sort of trolling going on.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-18 21:34:25
January 18 2020 21:33 GMT
#15
Sounds like team games in this predicament is Imba
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kramvti
Profile Joined July 2019
73 Posts
January 19 2020 00:30 GMT
#16
On January 18 2020 10:12 InfCereal wrote:

Seriously. 4v4 isn't competitive either. How do you even pop a queue in 4v4? Last time I tried, it took over 15 minutes.

It sounds like the only way these people were even getting queues were because the isImba people were queuing.


This isn't constructive to the issue at all.

I don't play LotV much, as I didn't like the changes to the economy. I tend to enjoy team games over 1v1. Even when I come back for a few games, I have never had issues with wait times. (Last time was about a month ago). I tend to get to diamond whenever I play for any length of time, in any mode.

It is frustrating that Blizz has never done anything about people that teamkill in general. It is much more difficult to defend them than to do them. They haven't even bothered to address it in any fashion at all in SC2.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-19 01:05:13
January 19 2020 01:03 GMT
#17
On January 18 2020 10:12 InfCereal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2020 08:36 Majick wrote:
There is no GM in 4v4. Anyway I also don't think they are trying to climb the ladder, that would be quite difficult since you can't control which team you will end up with. Most probably just BM/trolling.


Seriously. 4v4 isn't competitive either. How do you even pop a queue in 4v4? Last time I tried, it took over 15 minutes


It was active enough on EU last i played. Not fast queue but maybe like 3 to 5 minutes, no big deal
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covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
January 19 2020 14:25 GMT
#18
7 mins max search time. At 7 mins it will match you up with anyone searching doesnt cares about MMR at this point.
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 19 2020 18:44 GMT
#19
I love team games myself, and if you are looking for some good pals to play team games with, don't hesitate to join up with TAW: https://taw.net/

I can't guarantee you won't ever play against IsImba again, but at least you will not have to play with IsImba.
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kaby
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation195 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-19 19:25:24
January 19 2020 19:24 GMT
#20
Assuming that this is the same IsImba that people like Strelok were on years ago they sank pretty low, they used to be a pretty legit team/clan.

Strelok used to play for Guild of Imbalance (imba) and their latter version — imbaFXOpen. That was a CIS team and had nothing in common with isIMBA.
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
January 20 2020 08:35 GMT
#21
On January 20 2020 04:24 kaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
Assuming that this is the same IsImba that people like Strelok were on years ago they sank pretty low, they used to be a pretty legit team/clan.

Strelok used to play for Guild of Imbalance (imba) and their latter version — imbaFXOpen. That was a CIS team and had nothing in common with isIMBA.


Ah, didn't mean to smear his legacy then
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