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lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
October 09 2019 20:36 GMT
#1
As we know, many top Korean pros are soon to be off to serve their year in military service. My question is, how many pros have already served their time and have returned to starcraft?
SC2 Mapmaker
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-09 22:16:18
October 09 2019 22:15 GMT
#2
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

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My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
pzlama333
Profile Joined April 2013
United States281 Posts
October 09 2019 23:18 GMT
#3
Dream, FanTasy and Super are in some Chinese teams and play Chinese Team League. They also play some minor online events and major events qualification and doing fine. Armani and Dynamite also play but perform worse.
Other players play very little games, or list as inactive by aligulac.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
October 10 2019 00:59 GMT
#4
Polt streams a lot.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
chuchuchu
Profile Joined July 2019
40 Posts
October 10 2019 01:13 GMT
#5
Koreans really don't have human rights, so many of my favorite players have lost a lot of opportunities.

User was temp banned for this post.
NinjaNight
Profile Joined January 2018
428 Posts
October 10 2019 02:26 GMT
#6
On October 10 2019 07:15 Xamo wrote:
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

Source: www.reddit.com


Who are SpeeD and Dynamite? I've followed the scene since early 2011 and never knew about them somehow?
lorestarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1049 Posts
October 10 2019 02:27 GMT
#7
On October 10 2019 07:15 Xamo wrote:
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

Source: www.reddit.com

So there aren't any that really had a great deal of success after returning, in other words.
SC2 Mapmaker
Buddhabig
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark72 Posts
October 10 2019 04:38 GMT
#8
Parting returned and has been succesful both in tournaments and streaming in particular no?
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IncarnatioN_
Profile Joined April 2018
Russian Federation38 Posts
October 10 2019 06:57 GMT
#9
Parting returned and has been succesful both in tournaments and streaming in particular no?

yeah but he's been playing LoL, not doing military service
2020 is the year of terrans (i hope)
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
October 10 2019 07:04 GMT
#10
Dream has returned a while ago and starting to post some good results online, specifically in Olimoleague where in one weekly he 2-0'd Stats and 2-0'd Trap (who is considered by many to have the best PvT in the world) in his run to win the tournament eventually beating Bunny 3-0 in the final.

Hasn't been able to put the same results in LAN unfortunately

I would argue he or Fantasy are probably the strongest looking player who's come back from the Korean military so far!
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26221 Posts
October 10 2019 12:01 GMT
#11
On October 10 2019 16:04 Maynarde wrote:
Dream has returned a while ago and starting to post some good results online, specifically in Olimoleague where in one weekly he 2-0'd Stats and 2-0'd Trap (who is considered by many to have the best PvT in the world) in his run to win the tournament eventually beating Bunny 3-0 in the final.

Hasn't been able to put the same results in LAN unfortunately

I would argue he or Fantasy are probably the strongest looking player who's come back from the Korean military so far!

Yeah I’m looking forward to seeing what both those guys can deliver next season, both seem to be on an upward curve of form.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
October 10 2019 15:24 GMT
#12
Fantasy and Dream will be at least ro16 contenders in GSL next year. Probably a bit more for Fantasy.
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden591 Posts
October 10 2019 16:14 GMT
#13
On October 10 2019 11:26 NinjaNight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2019 07:15 Xamo wrote:
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

Source: www.reddit.com


Who are SpeeD and Dynamite? I've followed the scene since early 2011 and never knew about them somehow?

I don't know about Dynamite's history, but SpeeD was a top rookie player in Proleague. His playstyle was similar to FlaSh's, with macro as his strongest suit.
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Chris_Havoc
Profile Joined August 2016
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-10 16:55:58
October 10 2019 16:55 GMT
#14
I will add both HyuN & ForGG returned from military service some time ago but have chosen to mostly go with BW over SC2. ForGG occasionally streams SC2 on Afreeca but he is not actively competing.

Also Stardust did his military service during BW and had a long & successful SC2 career post-military. However Stardust has pursued other gaming opportunites and to my knowledge is no longer involved in StarCraft.
Owner of the SC2 Esports Anthology channel on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/SC2EsportsAnthology
fgonzo
Profile Joined September 2019
108 Posts
October 10 2019 17:01 GMT
#15
The WCS finals is in like 2 weeks... will Classic be able to participate or not?
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
October 10 2019 17:01 GMT
#16
On October 10 2019 11:26 NinjaNight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2019 07:15 Xamo wrote:
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

Source: www.reddit.com


Who are SpeeD and Dynamite? I've followed the scene since early 2011 and never knew about them somehow?

Dynamite was a B (C?) teamer for SKT back in the day. Nowadays he regularly plays in Olimoleague.
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain881 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-10 17:03:39
October 10 2019 17:02 GMT
#17
Double post
My life for Aiur. You got a piece of me, baby. IIIIIIiiiiiii.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 10 2019 17:31 GMT
#18
On October 11 2019 01:14 Drfilip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2019 11:26 NinjaNight wrote:
On October 10 2019 07:15 Xamo wrote:
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

Source: www.reddit.com


Who are SpeeD and Dynamite? I've followed the scene since early 2011 and never knew about them somehow?

I don't know about Dynamite's history, but SpeeD was a top rookie player in Proleague. His playstyle was similar to FlaSh's, with macro as his strongest suit.

kt SpeeD has 1 PL game recorded and he lost to ByuL's nydus all-in there:
http://aligulac.com/players/4735/results/?after=&before=&event=Proleague&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 10 2019 17:37 GMT
#19
On October 11 2019 02:31 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2019 01:14 Drfilip wrote:
On October 10 2019 11:26 NinjaNight wrote:
On October 10 2019 07:15 Xamo wrote:
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

Source: www.reddit.com


Who are SpeeD and Dynamite? I've followed the scene since early 2011 and never knew about them somehow?

I don't know about Dynamite's history, but SpeeD was a top rookie player in Proleague. His playstyle was similar to FlaSh's, with macro as his strongest suit.

kt SpeeD has 1 PL game recorded and he lost to ByuL's nydus all-in there:
http://aligulac.com/players/4735/results/?after=&before=&event=Proleague&race=ptzr&country=all&bestof=all&offline=both&game=all&wcs_season=&wcs_tier=&op=

yeah from what I remember SpeeD made ro16 once in 2016 and then went to the military with the end of the kespa teams
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-10 17:44:28
October 10 2019 17:42 GMT
#20
On October 11 2019 02:01 Xamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2019 11:26 NinjaNight wrote:
On October 10 2019 07:15 Xamo wrote:
Players who have returned from military service:
Bomber
Polt
DRG
Dream
Squirtle
MMA
Genius
Taeja
FanTaSy
SpeeD
Armani
Super
Dynamite
Trust

I am not sure which of them should be considered to have returned to SC2...

Source: www.reddit.com


Who are SpeeD and Dynamite? I've followed the scene since early 2011 and never knew about them somehow?

Dynamite was a B (C?) teamer for SKT back in the day. Nowadays he regularly plays in Olimoleague.

C definitely. Even if half the team was out he wouldn't have been fielded. SpeeD was also a C-teamer for SKT and Samsung before joining KT. In early LotV it looked like maybe his career could go somewhere as he beat Reality in Code A. After that performance, Artosis predicted SpeeD would become the 'Rookie of the Year', and so the Artosis curse set in and SpeeD retired after that season of Code S to focus on his studies.
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