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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15928 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-16 17:57:08
October 16 2018 17:56 GMT
#21
On October 17 2018 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
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On October 16 2018 23:52 Vendethiel wrote:
On October 16 2018 22:44 travis wrote:
What's even crazier is that he actually gave Serral a run for his money in those finals.

Yeah I don't get the "nothing seemed to work", "one step ahead", "hit a proper wall"... The games were much closer that they should've been.

Which doesn't mean they were any close in the first place ;o.

Nah, in two of those games Has could have easily won if it wasn't for a few critical mistakes.
Even Artosis said after game 4 that the score could have as well been 3-1 for Has at that point.
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
October 16 2018 18:08 GMT
#22
On October 17 2018 02:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2018 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
On October 16 2018 23:52 Vendethiel wrote:
On October 16 2018 22:44 travis wrote:
What's even crazier is that he actually gave Serral a run for his money in those finals.

Yeah I don't get the "nothing seemed to work", "one step ahead", "hit a proper wall"... The games were much closer that they should've been.

Which doesn't mean they were any close in the first place ;o.

Nah, in two of those games Has could have easily won if it wasn't for a few critical mistakes.
Even Artosis said after game 4 that the score could have as well been 3-1 for Has at that point.

Well yeah that's the point, it was very clear he wasn't at the same level as Serral when it came to playing out games, build orders aside.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 16 2018 18:11 GMT
#23
On October 17 2018 02:56 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2018 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
On October 16 2018 23:52 Vendethiel wrote:
On October 16 2018 22:44 travis wrote:
What's even crazier is that he actually gave Serral a run for his money in those finals.

Yeah I don't get the "nothing seemed to work", "one step ahead", "hit a proper wall"... The games were much closer that they should've been.

Which doesn't mean they were any close in the first place ;o.

Nah, in two of those games Has could have easily won if it wasn't for a few critical mistakes.
Even Artosis said after game 4 that the score could have as well been 3-1 for Has at that point.

that finals was pretty crazy too watch
RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
October 16 2018 22:10 GMT
#24
I come,I see,I cheese!
Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned.
CxWiLL
Profile Joined May 2013
China830 Posts
October 17 2018 08:12 GMT
#25
On October 17 2018 02:31 xelnaga_empire wrote:
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On October 17 2018 01:23 Fango wrote:
He really shouldn't win any games at blizzcon. It should be a legit criticism for pros when they lose to him.

That being said I hope he makes it entertaining.


Has probably has 100x more practice in his weird cheesy scenarios than the typical pro. This is why Serral was afraid of playing Has in the finals. Has fails not because of the larger picture of his strategy, but because his control and micro is not up to par against the best players (Has does make questionable "tactical" decisions at times, but his overall strategy is sound).

Compare Has, to say Stats. When Stats cheesed Serral in the finals of GSL vs the World, Stats has way better control than Has and I believe Stats won the game that he cheesed against Serral. Unfortunately, Stats mostly plays standard so I don't think he has explored all the paths of cheesing that Has has.

Terran and Zerg could be in for a huge surprise at Blizzcon if the top Korean pros come in with massive cheese strategies that Has is using.


what is amazing about has is that not only he has practiced more games in cheesy games, but also he has more experience in cleaning up the shitty condition after a failed cheese.
A lot of players defended has's initial wave of cheese pretty successfully but still failed to some weird mid-to-late game plays.
In one of has's Chinese interview about his late game meta after his amazing run in WCS Valencia. 'When I practice on ladder, A lot of players won't quit even they already lost, so I have to think about some way to bully them.'
BretZ
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1510 Posts
October 17 2018 12:34 GMT
#26
Has should redefine what is considered 'cheese' and what has become 'standard.' The Starcraft scene treats these words as too much of a dichotomy
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
October 17 2018 12:43 GMT
#27
On October 17 2018 03:08 Ej_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2018 02:56 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 17 2018 00:26 Ej_ wrote:
On October 16 2018 23:52 Vendethiel wrote:
On October 16 2018 22:44 travis wrote:
What's even crazier is that he actually gave Serral a run for his money in those finals.

Yeah I don't get the "nothing seemed to work", "one step ahead", "hit a proper wall"... The games were much closer that they should've been.

Which doesn't mean they were any close in the first place ;o.

Nah, in two of those games Has could have easily won if it wasn't for a few critical mistakes.
Even Artosis said after game 4 that the score could have as well been 3-1 for Has at that point.

Well yeah that's the point, it was very clear he wasn't at the same level as Serral when it came to playing out games, build orders aside.

Better players would have won from the positions Has was in, with better control and macro, surely. But they don't play like him at all so their games would never go in that direction to begin with.
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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
October 17 2018 17:27 GMT
#28
This is who I’ll watch BlizzCon for. Pure entertainment. Not the best but certainly shows strategic nous
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
TheLittleOtter
Profile Joined December 2013
Norway11 Posts
October 17 2018 18:42 GMT
#29
I absolutely love the reference to The Wire, well done, Ziggy (Well, actually.....)!
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RealityTheGreat
Profile Joined January 2018
China564 Posts
October 17 2018 19:40 GMT
#30
I think Wax or stuchiu will write better than others.
And will it be "2018:Another year of Has?"
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