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KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-28 02:22:12
September 28 2018 02:19 GMT
#41
On September 28 2018 04:58 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2018 03:14 kajtarp wrote:
Why does most people assume soO automatically will beat Dark? He lost to him in like 3 consecutive korean tournament last year. This year he lost to him in GSL S1 2-0. He played Impact twice once at IEM Qualy once in GSL and it was 1-2 and 2-1. Hes not the ZvZ god he used to be. Plus his TvZ aint that scary Bunny has a decent chance against him.


People still think soO is good for some reason.


He netted $140K at Blizzcon alone last year. How much have you made off Starcraft in your entire life?

Edit: The original comment asks why people assume soO will beat Dark. The answer is simple: soO's roach vs. roach is the best in the world - or at least has been for quite some time.
Et tu Brute ?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 28 2018 07:20 GMT
#42
On September 28 2018 11:19 KR_4EVR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2018 04:58 Phredxor wrote:
On September 28 2018 03:14 kajtarp wrote:
Why does most people assume soO automatically will beat Dark? He lost to him in like 3 consecutive korean tournament last year. This year he lost to him in GSL S1 2-0. He played Impact twice once at IEM Qualy once in GSL and it was 1-2 and 2-1. Hes not the ZvZ god he used to be. Plus his TvZ aint that scary Bunny has a decent chance against him.


People still think soO is good for some reason.


He netted $140K at Blizzcon alone last year. How much have you made off Starcraft in your entire life?

Edit: The original comment asks why people assume soO will beat Dark. The answer is simple: soO's roach vs. roach is the best in the world - or at least has been for quite some time.


Good one. People don't expect me to beat Dark.
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 28 2018 12:50 GMT
#43
TL writer should write an article highlighting the three best games performed by TY this year. All of them are memorable.
Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-28 13:55:06
September 28 2018 13:54 GMT
#44
On September 28 2018 16:20 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2018 11:19 KR_4EVR wrote:
On September 28 2018 04:58 Phredxor wrote:
On September 28 2018 03:14 kajtarp wrote:
Why does most people assume soO automatically will beat Dark? He lost to him in like 3 consecutive korean tournament last year. This year he lost to him in GSL S1 2-0. He played Impact twice once at IEM Qualy once in GSL and it was 1-2 and 2-1. Hes not the ZvZ god he used to be. Plus his TvZ aint that scary Bunny has a decent chance against him.


People still think soO is good for some reason.


He netted $140K at Blizzcon alone last year. How much have you made off Starcraft in your entire life?

Edit: The original comment asks why people assume soO will beat Dark. The answer is simple: soO's roach vs. roach is the best in the world - or at least has been for quite some time.


Good one. People don't expect me to beat Dark.

Wait you were serious? Dark, Serral, soO, and Rogue are the top zergs right now. They are fairly even in skill. The fact that soO has lose to Dark doesn't change that - they are in the same skill bracket.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
kallagen
Profile Joined November 2016
Russian Federation13 Posts
September 28 2018 13:54 GMT
#45
TY, why??? How can it's possible? =\
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 28 2018 14:37 GMT
#46
On September 28 2018 22:54 Rodya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2018 16:20 Phredxor wrote:
On September 28 2018 11:19 KR_4EVR wrote:
On September 28 2018 04:58 Phredxor wrote:
On September 28 2018 03:14 kajtarp wrote:
Why does most people assume soO automatically will beat Dark? He lost to him in like 3 consecutive korean tournament last year. This year he lost to him in GSL S1 2-0. He played Impact twice once at IEM Qualy once in GSL and it was 1-2 and 2-1. Hes not the ZvZ god he used to be. Plus his TvZ aint that scary Bunny has a decent chance against him.


People still think soO is good for some reason.


He netted $140K at Blizzcon alone last year. How much have you made off Starcraft in your entire life?

Edit: The original comment asks why people assume soO will beat Dark. The answer is simple: soO's roach vs. roach is the best in the world - or at least has been for quite some time.


Good one. People don't expect me to beat Dark.

Wait you were serious? Dark, Serral, soO, and Rogue are the top zergs right now. They are fairly even in skill. The fact that soO has lose to Dark doesn't change that - they are in the same skill bracket.

Not this year
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
September 28 2018 16:27 GMT
#47
On September 28 2018 22:54 kallagen wrote:
TY, why??? How can it's possible? =\

TY either doesn't qualify for Super Tournaments, or when he does, he plays below his level. At other tournaments (IEM, Code S, prolly Blizzcon) he plays better. That's just how it is.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
September 28 2018 19:27 GMT
#48
Amazing that Solar has a good shot.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 28 2018 20:59 GMT
#49
Oh look I was right about soO.
veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
77 Posts
September 29 2018 10:41 GMT
#50
Q: Were the Classic/Fantasy games any good?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-29 11:35:07
September 29 2018 11:28 GMT
#51
On September 29 2018 19:41 veniss wrote:
Q: Were the Classic/Fantasy games any good?

+ Show Spoiler +
Not really, way too one sided. You are better off watching TY vs Creator.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 29 2018 13:25 GMT
#52
From elsewhere, the current standings for Blizzcon going into tomorrow:

On September 29 2018 22:21 Yonnua wrote:
Group A at Blizzcon is Maru, Neeb, Lambo and either Zest or TY.

Group B at Blizzcon is Serral, Heromarine, either Zest or Dark, and either sOs or Solar.

Group C at Blizzcon is Stats, Has, Showtime and either Dark or Rogue.

Group D at Blizzcon is Classic, Nerchio, Special, and either TY or Rogue.


1-3 are now locked in, Dark is the only one who can climb higher from within the top 8. If he wins the SF, he doesn't gain anything, if he wins overall, he moves up to 4th. Therefore, there are only 2 scenarios for 1-7, and only two options for 8th.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
TrashPanda
Profile Joined July 2018
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-29 14:10:21
September 29 2018 14:07 GMT
#53
On September 29 2018 22:25 Yonnua wrote:
From elsewhere, the current standings for Blizzcon going into tomorrow:

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2018 22:21 Yonnua wrote:
Group A at Blizzcon is Maru, Neeb, Lambo and either Zest or TY.

Group B at Blizzcon is Serral, Heromarine, either Zest or Dark, and either sOs or Solar.

Group C at Blizzcon is Stats, Has, Showtime and either Dark or Rogue.

Group D at Blizzcon is Classic, Nerchio, Special, and either TY or Rogue.


1-3 are now locked in, Dark is the only one who can climb higher from within the top 8. If he wins the SF, he doesn't gain anything, if he wins overall, he moves up to 4th. Therefore, there are only 2 scenarios for 1-7, and only two options for 8th.

Actually TY is locked 4th, he just for some reason does not have the 225 points for ST2 in the standings on liquipedia. So Dark can only get 5th at best
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 29 2018 14:09 GMT
#54
On September 29 2018 23:07 TrashPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2018 22:25 Yonnua wrote:
From elsewhere, the current standings for Blizzcon going into tomorrow:

On September 29 2018 22:21 Yonnua wrote:
Group A at Blizzcon is Maru, Neeb, Lambo and either Zest or TY.

Group B at Blizzcon is Serral, Heromarine, either Zest or Dark, and either sOs or Solar.

Group C at Blizzcon is Stats, Has, Showtime and either Dark or Rogue.

Group D at Blizzcon is Classic, Nerchio, Special, and either TY or Rogue.


1-3 are now locked in, Dark is the only one who can climb higher from within the top 8. If he wins the SF, he doesn't gain anything, if he wins overall, he moves up to 4th. Therefore, there are only 2 scenarios for 1-7, and only two options for 8th.

Actually TY is locked 4th, he just for some reason does not have the 225 points for ST2 in the standings on liquipedia. So Dark can only get 5th at best


He doesn't get the points- he didn't win any matches in Super Tournament or in qualifying for the ST (because he automatically qualified through GSL). He and Maru only got the points if they won their first match. Because TY didn't, he doesn't get any points from ST.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
TrashPanda
Profile Joined July 2018
69 Posts
September 29 2018 14:10 GMT
#55
On September 29 2018 23:09 Yonnua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2018 23:07 TrashPanda wrote:
On September 29 2018 22:25 Yonnua wrote:
From elsewhere, the current standings for Blizzcon going into tomorrow:

On September 29 2018 22:21 Yonnua wrote:
Group A at Blizzcon is Maru, Neeb, Lambo and either Zest or TY.

Group B at Blizzcon is Serral, Heromarine, either Zest or Dark, and either sOs or Solar.

Group C at Blizzcon is Stats, Has, Showtime and either Dark or Rogue.

Group D at Blizzcon is Classic, Nerchio, Special, and either TY or Rogue.


1-3 are now locked in, Dark is the only one who can climb higher from within the top 8. If he wins the SF, he doesn't gain anything, if he wins overall, he moves up to 4th. Therefore, there are only 2 scenarios for 1-7, and only two options for 8th.

Actually TY is locked 4th, he just for some reason does not have the 225 points for ST2 in the standings on liquipedia. So Dark can only get 5th at best


He doesn't get the points- he didn't win any matches in Super Tournament or in qualifying for the ST (because he automatically qualified through GSL). He and Maru only got the points if they won their first match. Because TY didn't, he doesn't get any points from ST.

Oh, my mistake then
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 29 2018 14:13 GMT
#56
On September 29 2018 23:10 TrashPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2018 23:09 Yonnua wrote:
On September 29 2018 23:07 TrashPanda wrote:
On September 29 2018 22:25 Yonnua wrote:
From elsewhere, the current standings for Blizzcon going into tomorrow:

On September 29 2018 22:21 Yonnua wrote:
Group A at Blizzcon is Maru, Neeb, Lambo and either Zest or TY.

Group B at Blizzcon is Serral, Heromarine, either Zest or Dark, and either sOs or Solar.

Group C at Blizzcon is Stats, Has, Showtime and either Dark or Rogue.

Group D at Blizzcon is Classic, Nerchio, Special, and either TY or Rogue.


1-3 are now locked in, Dark is the only one who can climb higher from within the top 8. If he wins the SF, he doesn't gain anything, if he wins overall, he moves up to 4th. Therefore, there are only 2 scenarios for 1-7, and only two options for 8th.

Actually TY is locked 4th, he just for some reason does not have the 225 points for ST2 in the standings on liquipedia. So Dark can only get 5th at best


He doesn't get the points- he didn't win any matches in Super Tournament or in qualifying for the ST (because he automatically qualified through GSL). He and Maru only got the points if they won their first match. Because TY didn't, he doesn't get any points from ST.

Oh, my mistake then


The principle is that you need to earn all the points you get- TY's method of qualification already gave him points, so he doesn't also earn the points that the other earned through the qualifying bracket. If he won a match in ST, he would have earned his place there and therefore would get the full point score (like Maru did).

It's a very niche rule because usually GSL finalists are able to win in the first round anyway.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-29 16:00:16
September 29 2018 15:57 GMT
#57
If Dark wins this tournament then GL to Serral lol.

I guess foreigner fans can find solace in the fact that if Dark wins Neeb gets Zest instead of TY in his group. But Zest sometimes plays up to his skill ceiling so while it's more comforting to get him it doesn't really promise anything. You could still get bopped.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
veniss
Profile Joined August 2018
77 Posts
September 30 2018 02:46 GMT
#58
On September 29 2018 20:28 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2018 19:41 veniss wrote:
Q: Were the Classic/Fantasy games any good?

+ Show Spoiler +
Not really, way too one sided. You are better off watching TY vs Creator.

Pity. Thanks.
Yonnua
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2331 Posts
September 30 2018 10:33 GMT
#59
On September 30 2018 00:57 Rodya wrote:
If Dark wins this tournament then GL to Serral lol.

I guess foreigner fans can find solace in the fact that if Dark wins Neeb gets Zest instead of TY in his group. But Zest sometimes plays up to his skill ceiling so while it's more comforting to get him it doesn't really promise anything. You could still get bopped.


Neeb gets TY- at least it's someone he's had lots of experience practising for and who he's played against on the biggest stage. Hopefully he'll iron out the issues that lost him the GSL semifinals. If he does, Lambo shouldn't be a challenge for him and he should be able to make the Ro8.
LRSL 2014 Finalist! PartinG | Mvp | Bomber | Creator | NaNiwa | herO
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
September 30 2018 10:48 GMT
#60
Well the problem is that TY and Neeb prepared really, really hard against against each other, so they both know how the other players plays.
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