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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 06 2018 01:35 deacon.frost wrote: Power rank is about the actual form. The actual form of Dark isn't exactly bright, as he showed us how he doesn\t lose to foreigners  His form isn't really the best it's ever been but it's still enough to 3-0 Neeb | ||
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TentativePanda
United States800 Posts
1-2. Serral/Maru (sorry but they are tied for me, until I see more of them) 3. Stats 4. Dark 5. TY 6. Rogue 7. Gumiho 8. Zest 9. Innovation 10. Trap 11. Classic 12. Neeb Included a little past 10 just to get a bit more perspective. I think my problem with the Power Rankings posted is it relies way too heavily on this GSL season and even GSL vs World in my opinion. For example, Stats losing a close PvP series in RO8 against Zest doesn't warrant him dropping a few spots and Zest being suddenly ranked 3rd. EDIT: I'd also like to give a shoutout to Solar. Boy is he inconsistent, but boy oh boy does he look good at times. Just recently he beat Inno and then Zest in the ONPOONG tourney. So... 13. Solar 14. Soo | ||
Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On September 06 2018 00:15 Ishmael wrote: Is "I have *two* wipe a tear" a joke about soO always getting second place or...? Wow I think your right, can't believe TL editors let that one slide without a second look puns are such second-rate humour, with things like that you can't be surprise that the website is always no2 behind reddit. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On September 06 2018 03:02 Bagration wrote: We live in interesting times, very rarely do you have 2 clear-cut leaders like you do now - hopefully Maru and Serral can develop a Flash-Jaedong type rivalry. I don't see a world where they face often enough to have anything of the sort occur. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On September 06 2018 01:18 Ej_ wrote: But there are Neeb and Serral included. So this is actually just a conspiracy, making us focus on Trap and ignore how Zest climbed above Stats with one 3-2 series and a showmatch tournament win. Is it a conspiracy if everyone know tl staff like zest more than Stats | ||
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Carminedust
487 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33706 Posts
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Techtech1234
3 Posts
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Argonauta
Spain4967 Posts
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
They were both 1 map away from reaching the GSL playoffs but Dark had a way harder group. Then there was GSL vs the world where Dark reached the semis... When did Trap perform better than Dark? Zest above Stats is also very questionable. Zest may have slightly better PvP but in PvT and PvZ Stats is way superior. But this doesn't really surprise me, for some reason TL writers are underrating Stats the entire year. | ||
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bestiszest
France103 Posts
On September 06 2018 05:36 Charoisaur wrote: Zest above Stats is also very questionable. Zest may have slightly better PvP but in PvT and PvZ Stats is way superior. But this doesn't really surprise me, for some reason TL writers are underrating Stats the entire year. Stats is head and shoulder above Zest in PvZ but it's very debatable to call his PvT way superior to Zest's. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
On September 06 2018 05:46 bestiszest wrote: Stats is head and shoulder above Zest in PvZ but it's very debatable to call his PvT way superior to Zest's. I just remember Stats beating Maru who made Zest look like a bronze player. | ||
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bestiszest
France103 Posts
Beating Maru sure is impressive but it's not the whole storry. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On September 06 2018 01:18 Ej_ wrote: But there are Neeb and Serral included. So this is actually just a conspiracy, making us focus on Trap and ignore how Zest climbed above Stats with one 3-2 series and a showmatch tournament win. Zest has performed better recently and is only a couple of hundred points short of Stats in WCS points for the whole year. | ||
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PraetorARnis
4 Posts
On September 06 2018 03:35 Techtech1234 wrote: Some people seems to forget that this is a monthly power rank Indeed! People are stressing all over this ranking forgetting that this is based on the performance of players for August to early September! | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On September 06 2018 03:06 Elentos wrote: I don't see a world where they face often enough to have anything of the sort occur. Someone should organize a Bo9 showmatch - or a Bo69 | ||
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Dave4
494 Posts
On September 06 2018 01:11 Olli wrote: Did you know Trap finished 9-12 in every GSL this season? He's sitting at #9 in the KR WCS ranking. He's exactly where he should be. Hi Olli, pretty sure your own evidence just proves my point that trap is not #9: 1. Average of 9-12 means he should be 10.5 based on that solely, or worse if you look at the groups he has had. 2. If he is 9th in GSL but you guys put 2 players from WCS into the top 10 ahead of him, then he is at best 11th overall. So no he is definitely not 'exactly where he should be'. This also doesn't take into account the miriad other reasons that he is not 9th e.g. form, lack of notable achievements, lack of wins when it counts, lack of hot streaks, etc. I agree he is consistent - consistently not 9th. But for some reason TL always need him to be 9th, which I wouldn't care about except i don't think a perennial meme in a power rank is a good idea. What if you just made soO rank 2 all the time in every single one? You're keeping a player who deserves to be top 10 out solely for this silly meme. | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On September 06 2018 12:44 Dave4 wrote: Hi Olli, pretty sure your own evidence just proves my point that trap is not #9: 1. Average of 9-12 means he should be 10.5 based on that solely, or worse if you look at the groups he has had. 2. If he is 9th in GSL but you guys put 2 players from WCS into the top 10 ahead of him, then he is at best 11th overall. So no he is definitely not 'exactly where he should be'. This also doesn't take into account the miriad other reasons that he is not 9th e.g. form, lack of notable achievements, lack of wins when it counts, lack of hot streaks, etc. I agree he is consistent - consistently not 9th. But for some reason TL always need him to be 9th, which I wouldn't care about except i don't think a perennial meme in a power rank is a good idea. What if you just made soO rank 2 all the time in every single one? You're keeping a player who deserves to be top 10 out solely for this silly meme. No, that's how you choose to interpret him being placed at #9 again. I don't care where he lands at all, and I doubt most of us do. It's just a fitting place for him to be, and has been for a while. Trap is consistently good, but just short of a Ro8 finish. The argument at the end of your post really shows you're just angry for the sake of it. None of our close but no cigar mentions deserves to be top 10 over Trap right now. soO made the Masters Coliseum finals but did really poorly otherwise, Innovation's been a trainwreck recently and Leenock might have made the Ro8 but has offered nothing else, while also having no previous results to make an argument for consistency. Trap has the latter. He's constantly been a top 10 player, capable of taking games and series off everybody, but not making deep tournament runs. Whether Dark should be above him or not is debatable, but I really don't see what the big difference is if you switch the two. In my opinion Trap has earned a bit of a "buffer" with previous consistent results, and hasn't done so poorly that his spot needs to be changed. Again, this can be argued, but Trap certainly isn't where he is because we think it's funny. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16101 Posts
When Trap finishes 3rd in a ro16 group it proves he's a consistently good player - when someone like Stats, Inno or Dark gets 3rd in a ro16 group it's a terrible result which often makes them drop out of the PR completely despite having stronger results previously. I agree with Dave4, Trap at #9 really seems like some kind of a meme or at least it's not consistent with how other players are judged. I mean Trap at #9 despite 2 foreigners ahead of him says basically he's a top 8 player in KR despite never having reached the ro8. | ||
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