• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:06
CEST 00:06
KST 07:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy18ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding0Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win0[BSL22] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (May 30-Apr 5): herO, Clem, SHIN win Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2)
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Pros React To: JaeDong vs Queen [BSL22] RO32 Group Stage so ive been playing broodwar for a week straight. Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro24 Group E
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Loot Boxes—Emotions, And Why…
TrAiDoS
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Electronics
mantequilla
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1243 users

Power Rank: September 2018 - Page 2

Forum Index > SC2 General
70 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
September 05 2018 16:37 GMT
#21
On September 06 2018 01:35 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 01:21 Rodya wrote:
Neeb makes one GSL run and he's a top 8 player in the world? Dark > Neeb any day of the week and no it isn't close. The western bias in the english speaking SC2 community is insane.

By the way you just KNOW that the reason this power ranking came out today and not yesterday was that the writers were hoping Neeb would win, in which case they would put him on Rank 3 lmao

Power rank is about the actual form. The actual form of Dark isn't exactly bright, as he showed us how he doesn\t lose to foreigners

His form isn't really the best it's ever been but it's still enough to 3-0 Neeb
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TentativePanda
Profile Joined August 2014
United States800 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 16:53:37
September 05 2018 16:47 GMT
#22
My personal top 10 would be:

1-2. Serral/Maru (sorry but they are tied for me, until I see more of them)
3. Stats
4. Dark
5. TY
6. Rogue
7. Gumiho
8. Zest
9. Innovation
10. Trap

11. Classic
12. Neeb

Included a little past 10 just to get a bit more perspective. I think my problem with the Power Rankings posted is it relies way too heavily on this GSL season and even GSL vs World in my opinion. For example, Stats losing a close PvP series in RO8 against Zest doesn't warrant him dropping a few spots and Zest being suddenly ranked 3rd.

EDIT: I'd also like to give a shoutout to Solar. Boy is he inconsistent, but boy oh boy does he look good at times. Just recently he beat Inno and then Zest in the ONPOONG tourney. So...
13. Solar
14. Soo
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
September 05 2018 16:52 GMT
#23
On September 06 2018 00:15 Ishmael wrote:
Is "I have *two* wipe a tear" a joke about soO always getting second place or...?


Wow I think your right, can't believe TL editors let that one slide without a second look puns are such second-rate humour, with things like that you can't be surprise that the website is always no2 behind reddit.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 18:02:52
September 05 2018 18:02 GMT
#24
We live in interesting times, very rarely do you have 2 clear-cut leaders like you do now - hopefully Maru and Serral can develop a Flash-Jaedong type rivalry.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
September 05 2018 18:06 GMT
#25
On September 06 2018 03:02 Bagration wrote:
We live in interesting times, very rarely do you have 2 clear-cut leaders like you do now - hopefully Maru and Serral can develop a Flash-Jaedong type rivalry.

I don't see a world where they face often enough to have anything of the sort occur.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
September 05 2018 18:14 GMT
#26
On September 06 2018 01:18 Ej_ wrote:
But there are Neeb and Serral included.

So this is actually just a conspiracy, making us focus on Trap and ignore how Zest climbed above Stats with one 3-2 series and a showmatch tournament win.

Is it a conspiracy if everyone know tl staff like zest more than Stats
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
September 05 2018 18:17 GMT
#27
it is a conspiracy that the great zerg and terran innovator who hasnt qualified for any premier tournament but is the best sc2 this world has ever seen A V I L O is not on this list when he should clearly be in the 10th spot
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33586 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-05 18:32:22
September 05 2018 18:31 GMT
#28
Shout-out to everyone who remembered Classic
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Techtech1234
Profile Joined July 2018
3 Posts
September 05 2018 18:35 GMT
#29
Some people seems to forget that this is a monthly power rank
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4967 Posts
September 05 2018 19:06 GMT
#30
Maru first, then 2 blank spots, then the rest
Rogue | Maru | Scarlett | Trap
TL+ Member
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 05 2018 20:36 GMT
#31
Not sure what justifies Trap above Dark.
They were both 1 map away from reaching the GSL playoffs but Dark had a way harder group.
Then there was GSL vs the world where Dark reached the semis... When did Trap perform better than Dark?

Zest above Stats is also very questionable. Zest may have slightly better PvP but in PvT and PvZ Stats is way superior. But this doesn't really surprise me, for some reason TL writers are underrating Stats the entire year.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
bestiszest
Profile Joined March 2015
France103 Posts
September 05 2018 20:46 GMT
#32
On September 06 2018 05:36 Charoisaur wrote:

Zest above Stats is also very questionable. Zest may have slightly better PvP but in PvT and PvZ Stats is way superior. But this doesn't really surprise me, for some reason TL writers are underrating Stats the entire year.


Stats is head and shoulder above Zest in PvZ but it's very debatable to call his PvT way superior to Zest's.
Kt Rolster Zest and TY myboys freaking teamkills :'(
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
September 05 2018 20:49 GMT
#33
On September 06 2018 05:46 bestiszest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 05:36 Charoisaur wrote:

Zest above Stats is also very questionable. Zest may have slightly better PvP but in PvT and PvZ Stats is way superior. But this doesn't really surprise me, for some reason TL writers are underrating Stats the entire year.


Stats is head and shoulder above Zest in PvZ but it's very debatable to call his PvT way superior to Zest's.

I just remember Stats beating Maru who made Zest look like a bronze player.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
bestiszest
Profile Joined March 2015
France103 Posts
September 05 2018 21:07 GMT
#34
I remember Stats getting knocked out of gsl by Byun or Stats losing to TY after he beat Maru.
Beating Maru sure is impressive but it's not the whole storry.
Kt Rolster Zest and TY myboys freaking teamkills :'(
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
September 05 2018 21:16 GMT
#35
On September 06 2018 01:18 Ej_ wrote:
But there are Neeb and Serral included.

So this is actually just a conspiracy, making us focus on Trap and ignore how Zest climbed above Stats with one 3-2 series and a showmatch tournament win.


Zest has performed better recently and is only a couple of hundred points short of Stats in WCS points for the whole year.
PraetorARnis
Profile Joined January 2018
4 Posts
September 06 2018 01:29 GMT
#36
On September 06 2018 03:35 Techtech1234 wrote:
Some people seems to forget that this is a monthly power rank



Indeed! People are stressing all over this ranking forgetting that this is based on the performance of players for August to early September!
My Life for Auir! But Freedom is sexy too - Neeb | Stats | sOs | Trap | Rain | Maru | MCanning | PiG | Winterstarcraft
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 03:32:26
September 06 2018 03:32 GMT
#37
On September 06 2018 03:06 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 03:02 Bagration wrote:
We live in interesting times, very rarely do you have 2 clear-cut leaders like you do now - hopefully Maru and Serral can develop a Flash-Jaedong type rivalry.

I don't see a world where they face often enough to have anything of the sort occur.


Someone should organize a Bo9 showmatch - or a Bo69
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
September 06 2018 03:44 GMT
#38
On September 06 2018 01:11 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 00:51 Dave4 wrote:
On September 06 2018 00:50 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Seems reasonable. I think Dark should go ahead of Trap though. Yeah Trap has his number, but Dark in general looks to be the better overall player and still gets some respect for making it two rounds in GSL vs World, of which Trap was nowhere to be seen.

Yeah but it wouldn't be as funny to TL writers if they didn't have Trap as 9.


Did you know Trap finished 9-12 in every GSL this season? He's sitting at #9 in the KR WCS ranking.

He's exactly where he should be.

Hi Olli, pretty sure your own evidence just proves my point that trap is not #9:

1. Average of 9-12 means he should be 10.5 based on that solely, or worse if you look at the groups he has had.
2. If he is 9th in GSL but you guys put 2 players from WCS into the top 10 ahead of him, then he is at best 11th overall.

So no he is definitely not 'exactly where he should be'. This also doesn't take into account the miriad other reasons that he is not 9th e.g. form, lack of notable achievements, lack of wins when it counts, lack of hot streaks, etc.

I agree he is consistent - consistently not 9th. But for some reason TL always need him to be 9th, which I wouldn't care about except i don't think a perennial meme in a power rank is a good idea. What if you just made soO rank 2 all the time in every single one? You're keeping a player who deserves to be top 10 out solely for this silly meme.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 06:26:50
September 06 2018 06:25 GMT
#39
On September 06 2018 12:44 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2018 01:11 Olli wrote:
On September 06 2018 00:51 Dave4 wrote:
On September 06 2018 00:50 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Seems reasonable. I think Dark should go ahead of Trap though. Yeah Trap has his number, but Dark in general looks to be the better overall player and still gets some respect for making it two rounds in GSL vs World, of which Trap was nowhere to be seen.

Yeah but it wouldn't be as funny to TL writers if they didn't have Trap as 9.


Did you know Trap finished 9-12 in every GSL this season? He's sitting at #9 in the KR WCS ranking.

He's exactly where he should be.

Hi Olli, pretty sure your own evidence just proves my point that trap is not #9:

1. Average of 9-12 means he should be 10.5 based on that solely, or worse if you look at the groups he has had.
2. If he is 9th in GSL but you guys put 2 players from WCS into the top 10 ahead of him, then he is at best 11th overall.

So no he is definitely not 'exactly where he should be'. This also doesn't take into account the miriad other reasons that he is not 9th e.g. form, lack of notable achievements, lack of wins when it counts, lack of hot streaks, etc.

I agree he is consistent - consistently not 9th. But for some reason TL always need him to be 9th, which I wouldn't care about except i don't think a perennial meme in a power rank is a good idea. What if you just made soO rank 2 all the time in every single one? You're keeping a player who deserves to be top 10 out solely for this silly meme.


No, that's how you choose to interpret him being placed at #9 again. I don't care where he lands at all, and I doubt most of us do. It's just a fitting place for him to be, and has been for a while. Trap is consistently good, but just short of a Ro8 finish.

The argument at the end of your post really shows you're just angry for the sake of it. None of our close but no cigar mentions deserves to be top 10 over Trap right now. soO made the Masters Coliseum finals but did really poorly otherwise, Innovation's been a trainwreck recently and Leenock might have made the Ro8 but has offered nothing else, while also having no previous results to make an argument for consistency.

Trap has the latter. He's constantly been a top 10 player, capable of taking games and series off everybody, but not making deep tournament runs. Whether Dark should be above him or not is debatable, but I really don't see what the big difference is if you switch the two.

In my opinion Trap has earned a bit of a "buffer" with previous consistent results, and hasn't done so poorly that his spot needs to be changed. Again, this can be argued, but Trap certainly isn't where he is because we think it's funny.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-06 07:21:25
September 06 2018 07:18 GMT
#40
It seems like players are judged differently.
When Trap finishes 3rd in a ro16 group it proves he's a consistently good player - when someone like Stats, Inno or Dark gets 3rd in a ro16 group it's a terrible result which often makes them drop out of the PR completely despite having stronger results previously.

I agree with Dave4, Trap at #9 really seems like some kind of a meme or at least it's not consistent with how other players are judged.
I mean Trap at #9 despite 2 foreigners ahead of him says basically he's a top 8 player in KR despite never having reached the ro8.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 54m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
CosmosSc2 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2423
ggaemo 112
910 24
Sexy 23
Artosis 12
NaDa 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever349
capcasts9
League of Legends
JimRising 180
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 1631
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox207
C9.Mang0169
AZ_Axe48
Other Games
summit1g13807
Grubby3349
shahzam590
FrodaN523
Liquid`Hasu157
ToD131
Sick79
Mew2King47
ROOTCatZ44
ViBE40
minikerr3
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 30
• RyuSc2 29
• davetesta21
• OhrlRock 1
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 40
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV1084
League of Legends
• Doublelift3652
Other Games
• imaqtpie1325
• Scarra971
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
1h 54m
Replay Cast
10h 54m
Kung Fu Cup
12h 54m
Replay Cast
1d 1h
The PondCast
1d 11h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
GSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Elite League 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W2
IPSL Spring 2026
Escore Tournament S2: W3
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
RSL Revival: Season 5
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.