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HomeStory Cup XVIII announced for Nov 22-25 - Page 15
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 20 2018 07:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: soO vs Serral will happen. :O Battle for best ZvZ Is soO currently any good? I mean I love him, but he didn't deliver this year. | ||
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DanielSe
Germany38 Posts
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On November 20 2018 07:31 deacon.frost wrote: Is soO currently any good? I mean I love him, but he didn't deliver this year. This is definitely an off year for soO and his form right now doesn't seem too good but I think his ZvZ is good enough to beat Serral, although Serral would probably be favoured by many. His record is 2-0 against him this year. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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Anc13nt
1557 Posts
On November 20 2018 08:06 Xain0n wrote: soO shouldn't be able to beat Serral, tbh, but as he did it already this year(before Serral acquired his top form) this one will be an interesting confrontation. Yeah tbf, Serral in early 2018 (I think it was April?) was pretty mortal. Like probably top 10 but Serral in the second half of 2018 is almost unbeatable. Looking back, I realize that for this whole year I basically kept saying that Serral is only top 10, then I had to say he was top 7, then top 5, then top 3 and now I must concede that he legitimately is the best player in the world at this moment. I still hope INnoVation will beat him in the final somehow but his TvZ is so bad nowadays. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On November 20 2018 08:47 Anc13nt wrote: Yeah tbf, Serral in early 2018 (I think it was April?) was pretty mortal. Like probably top 10 but Serral in the second half of 2018 is almost unbeatable. Looking back, I realize that for this whole year I basically kept saying that Serral is only top 10, then I had to say he was top 7, then top 5, then top 3 and now I must concede that he legitimately is the best player in the world at this moment. I still hope INnoVation will beat him in the final somehow but his TvZ is so bad nowadays. A lot of close ZvZ against foreigners tho, and soO is a, the, ZvZ master. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Serral won in a dominant fashion against Dark and Rogue, i'm eager to see his rematch against soO! | ||
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Rob-Zero
Germany460 Posts
On November 20 2018 07:31 DanielSe wrote: why is not heromarine invited this time? He was, but he declined. He might still play as a substitute if someone has to cancel. But he said he will travel to Krefeld on at least two days of HSC either way. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 20 2018 09:45 Xain0n wrote: The korean ZvZ master! EU Zergs might have become stronger in the matchup recently. Serral won in a dominant fashion against Dark and Rogue, i'm eager to see his rematch against soO! Wasn't so dominant against Rogue though. He lost a BO win because Rogue played well and then if Rogue would have focused more on the important battles instead of the runbys it would have been a different story(or not, only Rogue can tell  ). | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7202 Posts
On November 20 2018 05:01 TaKeTV wrote: groups It's nice that they predicted everything from the start. Left side top 4 in every group lol | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
On November 20 2018 09:28 DieuCure wrote: A lot of close ZvZ against foreigners tho, and soO is a, the, ZvZ master. Assuming Serral is entering the tournament in the same form as when he entered Blizzcon, I think Serral's ZvZ is miles above SoO's at the moment. Serral outplayed Dark hard. Even when Dark was ahead, Serral still managed to claw his way back and win due to superior micro and engagements. Not only that, Serral dismantled Rogue in a lategame ZvZ through superior control and efficiency. His 6-1 score vs Rogue and Dark is a testament to his ZvZ prowess. SoO may have been better before, but at his current form he's worse than Dark and Rogue, both of whom were dismantled by Serral. SoO 's lategame isn't as refined as Rogue nor is it as scrappy as Dark, and his strong point is his early to mid game, but I don't think he can beat Serral even in those phases. If they run into each other, I think it'll either be a 3-0 or 3-1 in Serral's favor. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On November 20 2018 18:19 phodacbiet wrote: Assuming Serral is entering the tournament in the same form as when he entered Blizzcon, I think Serral's ZvZ is miles above SoO's at the moment. Serral outplayed Dark hard. Even when Dark was ahead, Serral still managed to claw his way back and win due to superior micro and engagements. Not only that, Serral dismantled Rogue in a lategame ZvZ through superior control and efficiency. His 6-1 score vs Rogue and Dark is a testament to his ZvZ prowess. SoO may have been better before, but at his current form he's worse than Dark and Rogue, both of whom were dismantled by Serral. SoO 's lategame isn't as refined as Rogue nor is it as scrappy as Dark, and his strong point is his early to mid game, but I don't think he can beat Serral even in those phases. If they run into each other, I think it'll either be a 3-0 or 3-1 in Serral's favor. If Rogue currently has the best lategame ZvZ in Korea then Serral is the winner of the ZvZ that will be played at HSC. Rogue doesn't have top tier end game ZvZ. (and I'm not sure if he ever had one). Unless soO regains his lost mojo | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7202 Posts
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Gekk02
Switzerland50 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7202 Posts
On November 20 2018 19:26 Gekk02 wrote: Do we know why Heromarine is not attending? Personal reasons. Somewhere in this thread is some information about that, but I'm too lazy to look | ||
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dummy1
420 Posts
On November 20 2018 19:26 Gekk02 wrote: Do we know why Heromarine is not attending? I heard that he doesn't like group stage format. I don't know nothing about it. Just a rumor. No shades. | ||
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DBooN
Germany2727 Posts
Watching the stream is still going to be a great time though! | ||
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TaKeTV
Germany1200 Posts
On November 20 2018 19:41 dummy1 wrote: I heard that he doesn't like group stage format. I don't know nothing about it. Just a rumor. No shades. Heromarine had no time to prepare for 7 opponents on the new patch without his streaming severely suffering which it already did while going to blizzcon. He doesn't like to go into a tournament with bad preparation so he prefered to not participate. | ||
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