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Maru vs Classic, Zest vs TY set for GSL Semis - Page 2

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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
June 10 2018 11:06 GMT
#21
On June 10 2018 17:04 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2018 16:05 MarianoSC2 wrote:
Zest is the new Stats. Not impressive, no hype around him, quietly winning. He will get to finals but then get smashed by classic


His biggest hurdle is TY. If he gets past him, I think Zest will shock everyone and win this season should he meet Classic in the finals which is the likely scenario. Classic is top 5 PvP ever in my book, but even so, Zest is the best. One of his defining attributes is his PvP and he has a solid record against Classic.


Hmm, that's weirdly plausible. I've pretty much counted Zest as the underdog to win it, but you make some good points. I'd still favor Classic considering his current form vs. Zest's, but thinking about it Zest's chances may be about the same as TY's. Those mirror match-up finals especially could be anyone's.

(OTOH, if Maru takes out Classic, I think Zest would have little hope; and if Classic takes out Maru, I think TY would have little hope.)
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genji11111
Profile Joined May 2018
12 Posts
June 10 2018 12:01 GMT
#22
(P)Classic vs (P)Zest final
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
June 10 2018 14:02 GMT
#23
TvT finals looks likely.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
June 10 2018 14:12 GMT
#24
On June 10 2018 23:02 Mozdk wrote:
TvT finals looks likely.

Classic's still the favorite in my book.
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Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
June 10 2018 19:44 GMT
#25
I am a huge TY fan, but I have to be honest - Gumiho played slightly better and deserved to win that fight. Sorry for the Gumi fans. But may be fate could be rewarding sometimes because many times TY was in the same losser possition while playing brilliantly most of the time.
In the same time I am a bit of shocked how Classic has taken the role of the villain and less fan favorite. May be he is not the most handsome and charismatic guy, but he is really damn scary right now. The way he takes perfect possition on the new maps is on god level which really takes the huge advantage of terrain aggression
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55566 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-10 20:09:15
June 10 2018 19:48 GMT
#26
On June 11 2018 04:44 Veluvian wrote:
I am a huge TY fan, but I have to be honest - Gumiho played slightly better and deserved to win that fight.

In the 3 games TY won, he played a bit better. In the 2 TY lost, GuMiho played much better And in sum, TY won. GuMiho played really well too and it's sad he's out but I feel like it unfairly discredits TY if you say he won despite playing worse.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 10 2018 21:51 GMT
#27
On June 10 2018 23:02 Mozdk wrote:
TvT finals looks likely.

Classic is the best PvT player in my book and by far. In the past Maru's PvT wasn't the best MU it used to be so I wouldn't bet on it. Both of them can prepare really well so we should see a really good series either way
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MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
June 10 2018 22:28 GMT
#28
On June 10 2018 23:02 Mozdk wrote:
TvT finals looks likely.


Very, very unlikely. There is almost 0 chance that Classic is going to lose a PvT best of 7. That is going to be a stomp.
And I would favor Zest vs TY but that will be a very close call.
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dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
June 11 2018 02:16 GMT
#29
(T)Maru 4 - 2 (P)Classic
(P)Zest 3 - 4 (T)TY
it was in my dream today.
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trutoman
Profile Joined June 2011
Spain4 Posts
June 11 2018 09:40 GMT
#30
Sorry but.....everybody think Classic will easily beat Maru... is it important to say that Maru is nowadays the best player in the world ? .... and i will point that this is going to be played over Marauder's update, OK for Classic and his PvT, probably the best in the world but .... MARU !! is in front of him....MARU.
Kikirik1
Profile Joined January 2017
45 Posts
June 11 2018 12:36 GMT
#31
On June 11 2018 04:48 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2018 04:44 Veluvian wrote:
I am a huge TY fan, but I have to be honest - Gumiho played slightly better and deserved to win that fight.

In the 3 games TY won, he played a bit better. In the 2 TY lost, GuMiho played much better And in sum, TY won. GuMiho played really well too and it's sad he's out but I feel like it unfairly discredits TY if you say he won despite playing worse.


Seem like fate is back, Gumi was outplayed by SOS in group stage, but go first.
orvinreyes
Profile Joined June 2007
577 Posts
June 11 2018 12:37 GMT
#32
I hope Chewbacca bathing in blood wins
http://youtu.be/LfmrHTdXgK4
Terra1
Profile Joined June 2018
Philippines312 Posts
June 11 2018 12:44 GMT
#33
Yeah. Maru is strong, with his TvP. But let's not forget that Classic had already beaten Maru twice, both when he had his good form and when he had a bad form (both in Super Tournament played bad but Maru had it worse). He had defeated 3 of the 4 horsemen of Terran (TY, ByuN, and Maru) in all of the Premier tournaments this year. Only dropped a few maps but hasn't lost a series yet. Makes sense for a 100% PvT win-rate this year.

Classic doesn't use any special kind of tricks. He's about being really aware and mechanical. His controls are also very good. He understands the matchup really well. He understand of how PvT works. Taking 1 map or so is a start for any Terran who were able to fight Classic. His reaction to drops, even holding the cheeses, this is why I like the Chintoss. Still, let's see if Classic's God-mode PvT will show weakness on the weekend.

Chintoss for the win!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 11 2018 17:08 GMT
#34
Maru isn't strong in his PvT, the last time he played PvT in GSL he looked shaky and that wasn't against Classic who's the best.

ALso saying that Classic doesn't use any special tricks when he can incorporate BS builds like Colossus drop

I would rate Classic in the middle on the scale Stats - sOs, probably more towards sOs
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trutoman
Profile Joined June 2011
Spain4 Posts
June 16 2018 05:27 GMT
#35
Sorry but.....everybody think Classic will easily beat Maru... is it important to say that Maru is nowadays the best player in the world ? .... and i will point that this is going to be played over Marauder's update, OK for Classic and his PvT, probably the best in the world but .... MARU !! is in front of him....MARU


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