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GSL RO16 Preview: Dark, Classic, Trap, TY (Group C)

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GSL RO16 Preview: Dark, Classic, Trap, TY (Group C)

Text byTL.net ESPORTS
May 29th, 2018 20:11 GMT

Code S RO16
Group C: Dark, Classic, Trap, TY

by Destructicon
[image loading] - TL_Destructicon

Last week, four players fought their way into the GSL Code S quarterfinals. This week, it's time to complete the playoff bracket as Korea's best StarCraft II players fight it out in the two remaining round-of-sixteen groups. First up, we have Group C, where 2018's crownless kings must once again prove their mettle.

Global StarCraft 2 League Code S - 2018 Season 2
Start time: Wednesday, May 30 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

Group C has so much star power that it threatens collapse in on itself. It wouldn't be a surprise to see any of these players survive or be eliminated, and all the group outcomes seem equally possible.

We start out with a battle of this year’s silver surfers. While it isn’t entirely fair to label (Wiki)Classic as such, given his championships in the WCS, SSL and IEM, all those came during 2014-2015. Our most recent memory of Classic is as the hottest player of the 2018 "pre-season," who came up short against Rogue during the IEM Katowice grand finals. Similarly, (Wiki)Dark walking the road of the Kong is just something we’ve come to accept at this point. He already has two second place finishes this year, falling to Maru at WESG and Stats in the GSL Super Tournament. His prior SSL championship is taking on a similar nature as soO's KeSPA Cup Trophy: a championship we conveniently ignore so we can further the narrative of tragic failure.

While it seems like a whimsical joke of the fates that Classic and Dark's paths would meet, it's actually the result of cold hard logic. As the #3 seed during the Group Nominations, Dark used his draft pick to go directly after Classic. Dark has taken out Classic at key moments in big tournaments, eliminating him from both WESG 2017 Main Event and the GSL Super Tournament (Classic did defeat Dark in the WESG Asia final).

The choice still feels like a risk—a calculated one—but still a risk nonetheless. While PvZ is the match-up in which Classic has shown the most weakness, he has also displayed a capacity to improve and overcome his shortcomings. He has already asserted his dominance in PvT and PvP, and has won big GSL matches against the likes of Maru and sOs. With a wealth of games against Dark to study, not only his own but those of other Protoss players, Classic is well situated to exact revenge for this year’s hardship at the hands of the Swarm.

On the other side of the group, the pairing of (Wiki)TY and (Wiki)Trap have also had eerily similar experiences in 2018. Both reached the RO16 in Code S Season 1, both reached the RO8 of IEM Katowice, and both have left us feeling they're not reaching their potential. IEM was a wasted opportunity for both players, with Trap blowing a 2-0 lead against Serral, while TY let several in-game advantages slip in a loss to Rogue.

While you wouldn’t think of it at first, TY and Trap are a lot more stylistically similar than you'd expect. Both players are comfortable playing standard games, intelligently playing StarCraft the "right" way. Meanwhile, they're both highly calculated in their use of cheese, sneaking it into their strong, standard-play at the moment where it can have maximum impact. They may not be the first players that come to mind when you think "championship contender," but they're dangerous wild-cards that can't be slept on.

As they meet now, at the crossroads between relevance and obscurity, Trap has been surging in online competition, while finishing his first in his RO32 with a clean, strong performance. Meanwhile, TY hasn't given us many results to go on, besides his Code S RO32 performance. Yet, he was picked second-to-last during the Group Nominations, and we must believe his peers fear him for a reason.

Predictions

The RO32 had barely any upsets, but Groups A & B of the RO16 reminded us to keep an open mind. In any case, Group C was already really hard to predict to begin with. Dark and Classic have been fantastic all year, and their lack of championships doesn't take away from that. Furthermore, TY and Trap have enormous "I TOLD YOU SO" potential, with their middling results belying their true skill level. This seems like right place to go with an unconventional prediction.

Dark 1 – 2 Classic
Trap 2 – 1 TY
Trap 1 – 2 Classic
Dark 2 – 1 TY
Trap 2 – 1 Dark

Classic and Trap to advance.



Credits and acknowledgements

Writer: Destructicon
Editor: Wax
Photo: leimmia
Statistics: Aligulac.com
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-29 20:19:26
May 29 2018 20:19 GMT
#2
Predicting Classic to beat a zerg is an interesting choice

(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Classic
(P)Trap 2–1 (T)TY
(P)Trap 2–1 (Z)Dark
(P)Classic 2–0 (T)TY
(Z)Dark 2-1 (P)Classic

Trap advances first, Dark second
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 29 2018 20:29 GMT
#3
Dark 2-0 Classic
TY 2-0 Trap
Dark 2-1 TY
Trap 2-1 Classic
TY 2-1 Trap
MrWayne
Profile Joined December 2016
219 Posts
May 29 2018 21:49 GMT
#4
gogo TY! we need more than one terran in the round of 8!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
May 29 2018 21:53 GMT
#5
Classic Trap...I buy it
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Xamo
Profile Joined April 2012
Spain886 Posts
May 29 2018 21:54 GMT
#6
Dark 2-1 Classic
TY 2-1 Trap
Dark 2-1 TY
Classic 2-0 Trap
Classic 2-1 TY
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
May 29 2018 21:55 GMT
#7
(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Classic
(T)TY 2-1 (P)Trap
(T)TY 0-2 (Z)Dark
(P)Trap 2-1 (P)Classic
(T)TY 2-1 (P)Trap
Gemini_19
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1264 Posts
May 29 2018 22:05 GMT
#8
On May 30 2018 05:19 Fango wrote:
Predicting Classic to beat a zerg is an interesting choice

(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Classic
(P)Trap 2–1 (T)TY
(P)Trap 2–1 (Z)Dark
(P)Classic 2–0 (T)TY
(Z)Dark 2-1 (P)Classic

Trap advances first, Dark second


My prediction exactly.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33710 Posts
May 29 2018 22:18 GMT
#9
I have no evidence that suggests TY is going to bust out a masterclass performance, but somehow I believe it
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Lexender
Profile Joined September 2013
Mexico2665 Posts
May 29 2018 23:36 GMT
#10
If Trap and Classic advance it would basically mean a 6 protoss Ro8

I somehow can see that happening.
DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
May 30 2018 00:01 GMT
#11
On May 30 2018 07:18 Waxangel wrote:
I have no evidence that suggests TY is going to bust out a masterclass performance, but somehow I believe it


I think this will happen for only one series before the tide of Protoss bullshittery and villainy makes him fall afoul of builds most tyrannical and despicable in their intent and conception.

Unless he builds marauders.
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neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
May 30 2018 01:56 GMT
#12
On May 30 2018 07:05 Gemini_19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2018 05:19 Fango wrote:
Predicting Classic to beat a zerg is an interesting choice

(Z)Dark 2-0 (P)Classic
(P)Trap 2–1 (T)TY
(P)Trap 2–1 (Z)Dark
(P)Classic 2–0 (T)TY
(Z)Dark 2-1 (P)Classic

Trap advances first, Dark second


My prediction exactly.


This is pretty much my prediction too! Not exact, but same overall result. I just would give Dark 2-1 vs Classic in both matches. How strange.
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IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
May 30 2018 02:07 GMT
#13
Dark first, TY second
Special Tactics
beepbeeeeeeep
Profile Joined February 2017
145 Posts
May 30 2018 02:40 GMT
#14
yes, this is probably the hardest group to predict
genji11111
Profile Joined May 2018
12 Posts
May 30 2018 03:10 GMT
#15
(Z)Dark is Weak in zvp, (P)Classic is Weak in pvz
emmmmm i guess (Z)Dark and (P)Classic to advance
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
May 30 2018 07:49 GMT
#16
Bad times to be a zerg
EzioAs
Profile Joined September 2017
235 Posts
May 30 2018 08:16 GMT
#17
As long as Trap doesn't have to face Classic, he'll probably advances but I don't like his chances. Dark and TY for me.
花は桜木人は武士
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
May 30 2018 09:38 GMT
#18
I bet some dosh on Dark and Trap.

Let's go boys.
The Bomber boy
Kurao
Profile Joined April 2018
215 Posts
May 30 2018 20:08 GMT
#19
It's a bit of a meme to say that "oh he's just having an off-day" but I think Dark DID have an off-day. Classic played really well, and he played this weird ravager-ling-bane against Trap, which didn't work at all...
HappyBunnyTime
Profile Joined November 2012
United States51 Posts
May 30 2018 23:54 GMT
#20
Ty played some great games !
o3o/
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