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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
April 06 2018 22:11 GMT
#21
Really? I didn't realize that
XK ßubonic
Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
April 06 2018 22:20 GMT
#22
On April 07 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 07:09 Agh wrote:
Guess we get to see Maru vs Dark round2 and potentially a finals rematch.

Classic is 5-0 vs Maru on 4.0 with none of the games being close


Classic hasn't lost a TvP since February or something?
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-06 22:25:30
April 06 2018 22:23 GMT
#23
On April 07 2018 07:20 Myrddrael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 07 2018 07:09 Agh wrote:
Guess we get to see Maru vs Dark round2 and potentially a finals rematch.

Classic is 5-0 vs Maru on 4.0 with none of the games being close


Classic hasn't lost a TvP since February or something?


Classic also has a really shitty record against Dark, so it looks like Dark's going to the finals unless upsets happen.

Inb4 Dark loses in the finals and usurps soO's spot as the ultimate Kong
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Myrddrael
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom291 Posts
April 06 2018 22:29 GMT
#24
On April 07 2018 07:23 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 07:20 Myrddrael wrote:
On April 07 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 07 2018 07:09 Agh wrote:
Guess we get to see Maru vs Dark round2 and potentially a finals rematch.

Classic is 5-0 vs Maru on 4.0 with none of the games being close


Classic hasn't lost a TvP since February or something?


Classic also has a really shitty record against Dark, so it looks like Dark's going to the finals unless upsets happen.

Inb4 Dark loses in the finals and usurps soO's spot as the ultimate Kong


Wouldn't surprise me. Who will he lose to in the finals this time I wonder?

I'd be pretty happy to see him win though
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
April 07 2018 00:25 GMT
#25
Dark vs either herO or Stats will be the final.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
April 07 2018 02:10 GMT
#26
On April 07 2018 07:23 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 07:20 Myrddrael wrote:
On April 07 2018 07:10 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 07 2018 07:09 Agh wrote:
Guess we get to see Maru vs Dark round2 and potentially a finals rematch.

Classic is 5-0 vs Maru on 4.0 with none of the games being close


Classic hasn't lost a TvP since February or something?


Classic also has a really shitty record against Dark, so it looks like Dark's going to the finals unless upsets happen.

Inb4 Dark loses in the finals and usurps soO's spot as the ultimate Kong

Keep in mind soO won his only championship (KeSPA Cup 2015) against Dark
Faker is the GOAT!
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33699 Posts
April 07 2018 02:23 GMT
#27
While I really want to see Maru vs. Dark III, I wouldn't mind seeing Classic PvT his way to a championship (he's lost enough on PvZ that I wouldn't begrudge him an ST trophy)
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ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
April 07 2018 04:12 GMT
#28
On April 06 2018 22:53 MKStyles wrote:
Byun..... pls get ur shit together

that's funny, coz that's what byun actually means in korean
waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 14:18:38
April 07 2018 14:15 GMT
#29
On April 06 2018 22:59 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Is it Stats who seems to be rock solid or just ByuN so bad ?

Byun was only good when he could abuse reapers, as soon as Blizz patched them he was done.
Also Stats' defense to early aggression is legendary.
"If you are going to break the law, do it with two thousand people.. and Mozart." - Howard Zinn
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16090 Posts
April 07 2018 17:15 GMT
#30
On April 07 2018 23:15 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2018 22:59 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Is it Stats who seems to be rock solid or just ByuN so bad ?

Byun was only good when he could abuse reapers, as soon as Blizz patched them he was done.
Also Stats' defense to early aggression is legendary.

That's just not true though back in late 2016 he was legit good.
When you look at his runs in the GSL and Blizzcon the players he beat in the playoffs were Ryung, Dear, sOs, TY, Stats and Dark.
The only one of those series where Reapers played a significant role was the one against Dark.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 23:09:59
April 07 2018 23:04 GMT
#31
On April 08 2018 02:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 23:15 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
On April 06 2018 22:59 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Is it Stats who seems to be rock solid or just ByuN so bad ?

Byun was only good when he could abuse reapers, as soon as Blizz patched them he was done.
Also Stats' defense to early aggression is legendary.

That's just not true though back in late 2016 he was legit good.
When you look at his runs in the GSL and Blizzcon the players he beat in the playoffs were Ryung, Dear, sOs, TY, Stats and Dark.
The only one of those series where Reapers played a significant role was the one against Dark.

Yeah, gimme some imba unit/strat/build and let me practice the shit out of it with great micro and maybe I will look "legit good" too*

I've watched him abuse reapers many times outside that GSL finals. I also remember watching him in 2017 and he only had 3 builds: reapers, 2medivacs aggression, and helion rush into bio.

He's the embodiment of 'patch-terran', came into great success based on exactly one patch version, then hung around for a bit when tankivacs were something to abuse; now that both tankivacs and reapers have been patched out, he's gone.

He did have god-like micro, which is why he made both those micro-intensive strats look easy.


* I don't have great micro, quite the opposite, actually
"If you are going to break the law, do it with two thousand people.. and Mozart." - Howard Zinn
TronJovolta
Profile Joined April 2013
United States323 Posts
April 08 2018 07:56 GMT
#32
On April 07 2018 05:29 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 05:25 Ej_ wrote:
Maru has played the same way for 8 years lol

Not at all lol. He used to always go all-out midgame aggression and avoided playing lategame. Now he's the best lategame player in the world.


Literally.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16090 Posts
April 08 2018 08:09 GMT
#33
On April 08 2018 08:04 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 02:15 Charoisaur wrote:
On April 07 2018 23:15 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
On April 06 2018 22:59 EEk1TwEEk wrote:
Is it Stats who seems to be rock solid or just ByuN so bad ?

Byun was only good when he could abuse reapers, as soon as Blizz patched them he was done.
Also Stats' defense to early aggression is legendary.

That's just not true though back in late 2016 he was legit good.
When you look at his runs in the GSL and Blizzcon the players he beat in the playoffs were Ryung, Dear, sOs, TY, Stats and Dark.
The only one of those series where Reapers played a significant role was the one against Dark.

Yeah, gimme some imba unit/strat/build and let me practice the shit out of it with great micro and maybe I will look "legit good" too*


Did you read what I just wrote? Except the one series against Dark his success wasn't based on Reapers at all.
Tankivacs weren't really good in TvP either which was the matchup he played the most during his runs.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
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