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Korea Weekly - Stats vs Maru - GSL Code S Finals - Page 2

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sOvrn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States678 Posts
March 28 2018 16:16 GMT
#21
I say Maru takes this series. Im going to go with 4-3.

Marus mental state must be very strong right now. He's coming from a strong placing in Katowice, winning a wesg for lots of money and now his first GSL finals. Whatever he is doing, it's working!!

Stats on the other hand has something to prove. From first seed in 2017 to getting knocked out of the major tournaments on 2018 but still doing well in GSL.

Just in terms of perceived mental states, I'd say Maru has the upper hand by a long shot.

On another note, I think tvp is Marus worst matchup ATM, but still his TvP builds are freaking amazing. He's got a very unique style imo with fast reactor factory to deal w early game and a great eng 2nd 3rd rax and starport timings. I don't think Maru is going to loose a lot of early games and the longer a game goes the more I'd give it to Maru, despite the match up.
My favorites: Terran - Maru // Protoss - SoS // Zerg - soO ~~~ fighting!
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
March 28 2018 16:26 GMT
#22
Maru 4-3
Drfilip
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden590 Posts
March 28 2018 16:37 GMT
#23
Stats vs Maru at IEM is my favorite match of this year. I hope this code S final will come close to that game.
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TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
March 28 2018 17:39 GMT
#24
Mary has SOS in team house. He will prepare insenely good as he did with Rouge.
Stats doesnot have such comfort. Unless TY helps him a lot.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
March 28 2018 17:57 GMT
#25
The lack of Maru TvP games in recent weeks makes this one such a mystery. I can totally see him showing up with TvP that's equally strong as his TvZ and taking this series 4-1 or 4-2. On the other hand, I'm always spooked by weird intangible factors in the GSL (soO's 2nd place curse etc.), and Stats' ability to be poor in EVERY other tournament yet triumph in the GSL makes me wonder if he can do it again.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 18:20:01
March 28 2018 18:19 GMT
#26
Maru 4-1. Brutal stomp to close out the best season we've had in some time.

Been a long journey, but finally, the GSL that has eluded Maru for so long shall be his.

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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
March 28 2018 19:01 GMT
#27
On March 29 2018 03:19 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Maru 4-1. Brutal stomp to close out the best season we've had in some time.

Been a long journey, but finally, the GSL that has eluded Maru for so long shall be his.

Throwback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VN6Dd6oNs


Hearing the original GSL theme again......the feels.
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 19:15:28
March 28 2018 19:12 GMT
#28
On March 29 2018 02:57 Waxangel wrote:
The lack of Maru TvP games in recent weeks makes this one such a mystery. I can totally see him showing up with TvP that's equally strong as his TvZ and taking this series 4-1 or 4-2. On the other hand, I'm always spooked by weird intangible factors in the GSL (soO's 2nd place curse etc.), and Stats' ability to be poor in EVERY other tournament yet triumph in the GSL makes me wonder if he can do it again.

I don't think any terran player right now is as strong in TvP as they are in TvZ. Maru's winrate vs korean protoss since 4.0 is 42%. Stats' winrate vs korean terran since 4.0 is 71%. Stats is massively favoured in this final and no one seems to recognise it.

(I exclude the non koreans because Maru stomped plenty of them at IEM/WeSG, it inflated his winrate).

On March 29 2018 02:39 TW wrote:
Mary has SOS in team house. He will prepare insenely good as he did with Rouge.
Stats doesnot have such comfort. Unless TY helps him a lot.

Recently on stream Stats has had Inno, TY, and Bunny over, I think he has a fine selection of practice partners. Maru doesn't as much, Creator isn't as good and sOs doesn't even try playing normal games against him.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 19:41:12
March 28 2018 19:39 GMT
#29
On March 29 2018 04:12 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 02:57 Waxangel wrote:
The lack of Maru TvP games in recent weeks makes this one such a mystery. I can totally see him showing up with TvP that's equally strong as his TvZ and taking this series 4-1 or 4-2. On the other hand, I'm always spooked by weird intangible factors in the GSL (soO's 2nd place curse etc.), and Stats' ability to be poor in EVERY other tournament yet triumph in the GSL makes me wonder if he can do it again.

I don't think any terran player right now is as strong in TvP as they are in TvZ. Maru's winrate vs korean protoss since 4.0 is 42%. Stats' winrate vs korean terran since 4.0 is 71%. Stats is massively favoured in this final and no one seems to recognise it.

(I exclude the non koreans because Maru stomped plenty of them at IEM/WeSG, it inflated his winrate).

Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 02:39 TW wrote:
Mary has SOS in team house. He will prepare insenely good as he did with Rouge.
Stats doesnot have such comfort. Unless TY helps him a lot.

Recently on stream Stats has had Inno, TY, and Bunny over, I think he has a fine selection of practice partners. Maru doesn't as much, Creator isn't as good and sOs doesn't even try playing normal games against him.


Losing to souL didn't do much good to Stats' PvT reputation (even if those were cyclone cheese games).
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 19:48:02
March 28 2018 19:46 GMT
#30
On March 29 2018 04:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 04:12 Fango wrote:
On March 29 2018 02:57 Waxangel wrote:
The lack of Maru TvP games in recent weeks makes this one such a mystery. I can totally see him showing up with TvP that's equally strong as his TvZ and taking this series 4-1 or 4-2. On the other hand, I'm always spooked by weird intangible factors in the GSL (soO's 2nd place curse etc.), and Stats' ability to be poor in EVERY other tournament yet triumph in the GSL makes me wonder if he can do it again.

I don't think any terran player right now is as strong in TvP as they are in TvZ. Maru's winrate vs korean protoss since 4.0 is 42%. Stats' winrate vs korean terran since 4.0 is 71%. Stats is massively favoured in this final and no one seems to recognise it.

(I exclude the non koreans because Maru stomped plenty of them at IEM/WeSG, it inflated his winrate).

On March 29 2018 02:39 TW wrote:
Mary has SOS in team house. He will prepare insenely good as he did with Rouge.
Stats doesnot have such comfort. Unless TY helps him a lot.

Recently on stream Stats has had Inno, TY, and Bunny over, I think he has a fine selection of practice partners. Maru doesn't as much, Creator isn't as good and sOs doesn't even try playing normal games against him.


Losing to souL didn't do much good to Stats' PvT reputation (even if those were cyclone cheese games).

They were borderline build-order-wins. Although Stats handled them very badly, it doesn't say anything about his standard game. Stats losing like that is just midleading and gives everyone the impression he's weaker than he truly is.

(at the same time, Maru stomped a bunch of foreign protoss in that tournament but didn't look particularly strong doing it, I'd actually go as far to say Stats looked just as good in PvT as Maru did at that time).
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
March 28 2018 20:14 GMT
#31
On March 29 2018 04:46 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 04:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 29 2018 04:12 Fango wrote:
On March 29 2018 02:57 Waxangel wrote:
The lack of Maru TvP games in recent weeks makes this one such a mystery. I can totally see him showing up with TvP that's equally strong as his TvZ and taking this series 4-1 or 4-2. On the other hand, I'm always spooked by weird intangible factors in the GSL (soO's 2nd place curse etc.), and Stats' ability to be poor in EVERY other tournament yet triumph in the GSL makes me wonder if he can do it again.

I don't think any terran player right now is as strong in TvP as they are in TvZ. Maru's winrate vs korean protoss since 4.0 is 42%. Stats' winrate vs korean terran since 4.0 is 71%. Stats is massively favoured in this final and no one seems to recognise it.

(I exclude the non koreans because Maru stomped plenty of them at IEM/WeSG, it inflated his winrate).

On March 29 2018 02:39 TW wrote:
Mary has SOS in team house. He will prepare insenely good as he did with Rouge.
Stats doesnot have such comfort. Unless TY helps him a lot.

Recently on stream Stats has had Inno, TY, and Bunny over, I think he has a fine selection of practice partners. Maru doesn't as much, Creator isn't as good and sOs doesn't even try playing normal games against him.


Losing to souL didn't do much good to Stats' PvT reputation (even if those were cyclone cheese games).

They were borderline build-order-wins. Although Stats handled them very badly, it doesn't say anything about his standard game. Stats losing like that is just midleading and gives everyone the impression he's weaker than he truly is.

(at the same time, Maru stomped a bunch of foreign protoss in that tournament but didn't look particularly strong doing it, I'd actually go as far to say Stats looked just as good in PvT as Maru did at that time).


With his PvT not looking that solid, I still wouldn't consider him massively favoured though. Favoured? Probably. Massively favoured? Maru knows how to build cyclones too.
Loccstana
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States833 Posts
March 28 2018 20:27 GMT
#32
I hope we will see games like these in the finals:

[url]http://i.imgur.com/lw2yN.jpg[/url]
leublix
Profile Joined May 2017
493 Posts
March 28 2018 20:32 GMT
#33
Be honest TL writers, you predicted Stats because you want Maru to win.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15928 Posts
March 28 2018 20:42 GMT
#34
Makes me somewhat angry that we don't get Tastosis casting because they are busy casting random FFAs and 2 vs 2s........

But other casters are great too so it's not too bad.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 28 2018 21:00 GMT
#35
Calling Maru taking it 4-0.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 28 2018 21:24 GMT
#36
On March 29 2018 04:46 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 04:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 29 2018 04:12 Fango wrote:
On March 29 2018 02:57 Waxangel wrote:
The lack of Maru TvP games in recent weeks makes this one such a mystery. I can totally see him showing up with TvP that's equally strong as his TvZ and taking this series 4-1 or 4-2. On the other hand, I'm always spooked by weird intangible factors in the GSL (soO's 2nd place curse etc.), and Stats' ability to be poor in EVERY other tournament yet triumph in the GSL makes me wonder if he can do it again.

I don't think any terran player right now is as strong in TvP as they are in TvZ. Maru's winrate vs korean protoss since 4.0 is 42%. Stats' winrate vs korean terran since 4.0 is 71%. Stats is massively favoured in this final and no one seems to recognise it.

(I exclude the non koreans because Maru stomped plenty of them at IEM/WeSG, it inflated his winrate).

On March 29 2018 02:39 TW wrote:
Mary has SOS in team house. He will prepare insenely good as he did with Rouge.
Stats doesnot have such comfort. Unless TY helps him a lot.

Recently on stream Stats has had Inno, TY, and Bunny over, I think he has a fine selection of practice partners. Maru doesn't as much, Creator isn't as good and sOs doesn't even try playing normal games against him.


Losing to souL didn't do much good to Stats' PvT reputation (even if those were cyclone cheese games).

They were borderline build-order-wins. Although Stats handled them very badly, it doesn't say anything about his standard game. Stats losing like that is just midleading and gives everyone the impression he's weaker than he truly is.

(at the same time, Maru stomped a bunch of foreign protoss in that tournament but didn't look particularly strong doing it, I'd actually go as far to say Stats looked just as good in PvT as Maru did at that time).


Stats is 13-7 vs korean terrans since the beginning of the year with wins against bunny (4-0), cure (3-0), ryung (2-1) and dwarf (2-0) while he lost vs alive, byun and maru.

Maru is 19-25 with wins (and losses) vs better protoss players comparatively.

In no way is Stats massively favored, one could even argue maru might be favored slightly. Hard to say really, but stats' recent pvt results aren't exactly impressive either.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
March 28 2018 21:42 GMT
#37
stats beat my hero soo

i hope maru stomps him into OBLIVION
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-28 23:23:48
March 28 2018 23:23 GMT
#38
On March 29 2018 06:24 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2018 04:46 Fango wrote:
On March 29 2018 04:39 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On March 29 2018 04:12 Fango wrote:
On March 29 2018 02:57 Waxangel wrote:
The lack of Maru TvP games in recent weeks makes this one such a mystery. I can totally see him showing up with TvP that's equally strong as his TvZ and taking this series 4-1 or 4-2. On the other hand, I'm always spooked by weird intangible factors in the GSL (soO's 2nd place curse etc.), and Stats' ability to be poor in EVERY other tournament yet triumph in the GSL makes me wonder if he can do it again.

I don't think any terran player right now is as strong in TvP as they are in TvZ. Maru's winrate vs korean protoss since 4.0 is 42%. Stats' winrate vs korean terran since 4.0 is 71%. Stats is massively favoured in this final and no one seems to recognise it.

(I exclude the non koreans because Maru stomped plenty of them at IEM/WeSG, it inflated his winrate).

On March 29 2018 02:39 TW wrote:
Mary has SOS in team house. He will prepare insenely good as he did with Rouge.
Stats doesnot have such comfort. Unless TY helps him a lot.

Recently on stream Stats has had Inno, TY, and Bunny over, I think he has a fine selection of practice partners. Maru doesn't as much, Creator isn't as good and sOs doesn't even try playing normal games against him.


Losing to souL didn't do much good to Stats' PvT reputation (even if those were cyclone cheese games).

They were borderline build-order-wins. Although Stats handled them very badly, it doesn't say anything about his standard game. Stats losing like that is just midleading and gives everyone the impression he's weaker than he truly is.

(at the same time, Maru stomped a bunch of foreign protoss in that tournament but didn't look particularly strong doing it, I'd actually go as far to say Stats looked just as good in PvT as Maru did at that time).


Stats is 13-7 vs korean terrans since the beginning of the year with wins against bunny (4-0), cure (3-0), ryung (2-1) and dwarf (2-0) while he lost vs alive, byun and maru.

Maru is 19-25 with wins (and losses) vs better protoss players comparatively.

In no way is Stats massively favored, one could even argue maru might be favored slightly. Hard to say really, but stats' recent pvt results aren't exactly impressive either.

A 62% vs 42% winrate is pretty significant. Even if Maru generally had harsher opponents. I don't believe for one second that Stat's PvT is particularly weaker either. Especially here when he performs much better in GSL than other events.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
March 28 2018 23:46 GMT
#39
Sorry but the lvl of opposition in both these is so different that the win% alone means almost nothing. Bunny is really bad in tvp, cure is cure and ryung isn't known for tvp either.
He lost vs "better" tvp player in maru, byun and alive. It's extremely unimpressive
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
March 29 2018 03:04 GMT
#40
Should be Stats 4-2. But if he comes in and plays slow like he started off against soO, Maru will curb stomp him 4-1. Let us see...
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