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With half the Round of 16 participants already decided,  TY, GuMiho,  Losira and  Hurricane met in Group E of the RO32 to decide who would continue their Code S dreams in 2018’s inaugural campaign.
Initial match 1: Hurricane took a 1-0 lead with stalkers, void rays and a host of shield batteries before losing to a tank push in game two. Game three swung both ways, but Hurricane's gateway based army couldn't keep up with GuMiho's bio, giving the Terran a 2-1 win.
Initial match 2: Losira's ling/bane/muta style failed to overcome TY's ceaseless bio/mine/thor production in game one, while a tank heavy mech push combined with hellbat drops peeled him apart on Neon Violet Square, setting up a winner's match between TY and GuMiho.
Winners' match: GuMiho proxied two barracks on Neon Violet Square, but a single liberator from TY went uncontested, ending the game. With TY’s mech army bearing down on his main, GuMiho went for a basetrade with bio/tank in game two, but came up short, giving TY a 2-0 victory.
Losers' match: Losira won game one with a crisp hydralisk timing on Hurricane's third. He dropped the next one to tempests and dark templars despite having been ahead for much of the game, but completely shut down Hurricane's archon drops on Blackpink before closing out the series in his favor.
Decider match: GuMiho played mech every game against Losira. He won game one, but lost all his cyclones to ravagers on Odyssey. Losira took a supply lead late in game three, but didn't have the bank to recoup his losses and was ultimately eliminated, sending GuMiho to the Round of 16.
Bonus clip: In an alternate universe, this was the early contender for play of the year.
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Hold it down for Terran lol. Terrans is most represented in ro16 so far, only Bunny didn't make it through so far.
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On January 21 2018 00:35 ejozl wrote:
Hold it down for Terran lol. Terrans is most represented in ro16 so far
Only because TY & Gumi made it 
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With all the talk TY did of how bad Terran is at the moment I find it a bit funny they are still winning, comfortably even.
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On January 21 2018 01:32 Kaewins wrote:
With all the talk TY did of how bad Terran is at the moment I find it a bit funny they are still winning, comfortably even.
Sure, if you ignore the big skill mismatch of this group.
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On January 21 2018 01:40 HuTSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 01:32 Kaewins wrote:
With all the talk TY did of how bad Terran is at the moment I find it a bit funny they are still winning, comfortably even. Sure, if you ignore the big skill mismatch of this group.
And also judge the entirety of SC2 balance based off of 2 best of 3's.
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On January 21 2018 01:40 HuTSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 01:32 Kaewins wrote:
With all the talk TY did of how bad Terran is at the moment I find it a bit funny they are still winning, comfortably even. Sure, if you ignore the big skill mismatch of this group.
Out of the 5 GSL groups that ran so far Terran has won 3, Protoss 1 and Zerg 1.
At some point we have to either get past the "skill mismatch" argument or I guess accept that terran players are just superior and can win despite their race being bad.
Now I'm not saying terran is alright, I'm just saying that after all the whining I expected a bit more of a dent in those korean terrans, but nope.
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And ignore the fact that the show where he did his whining was a comedy format
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On January 21 2018 02:17 Kaewins wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 01:40 HuTSC2 wrote:On January 21 2018 01:32 Kaewins wrote:
With all the talk TY did of how bad Terran is at the moment I find it a bit funny they are still winning, comfortably even. Sure, if you ignore the big skill mismatch of this group. Out of the 5 GSL groups that ran so far Terran has won 3, Protoss 1 and Zerg 1. At some point we have to either get past the "skill mismatch" argument or I guess accept that terran players are just superior and can win despite their race being bad. Now I'm not saying terran is alright, I'm just saying that after all the whining I expected a bit more of a dent in those korean terrans, but nope.
Right now the gap between the top koreans and the lower tier koreans is so huge that balance just doesn't matter.
Talk again when Inno/TY/Gumiho are beating players like Zest/Stats/Classic/herO/Dark/soO
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I love how people base the premise "Terran is not underpowered" in this group...
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Patch is basically confirmed already so balance talk right now is worthless.
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aLive is just in a different weight class than Rogue.
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We really need to drop the balance discussions, it everywhere. I don't see so much salt with flash ~80% win ratio against zerg..
Grats to TY and Gumiho, Losira gave entertaining games.
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On January 21 2018 02:49 Ej_ wrote:
aLive is just in a different weight class than Rogue.
Rogue is in the traditional post-blizzcon-slump and enjoying his $$$. Even lost to Scarlett.
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On January 21 2018 02:49 Ej_ wrote:
aLive is just in a different weight class than Rogue.
He was. Rogue was playing poorly
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On January 21 2018 03:02 TypeOfT wrote:
We really need to drop the balance discussions, it everywhere. I don't see so much salt with flash ~80% win ratio against zerg..
Grats to TY and Gumiho, Losira gave entertaining games.
I agree, but it's even in the title of the thread. The "Is terran underpowered?" balance question is pervasive and pretty much seeps its way into everything. Its annoying, but until it is "answered" by a third party via a patch it doesn't feel like the question will go away.
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On January 21 2018 02:17 Kaewins wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 01:40 HuTSC2 wrote:On January 21 2018 01:32 Kaewins wrote:
With all the talk TY did of how bad Terran is at the moment I find it a bit funny they are still winning, comfortably even. Sure, if you ignore the big skill mismatch of this group. Now I'm not saying terran is alright, I'm just saying that after all the whining I expected a bit more of a dent in those korean terrans, but nope.
If we saw TY/gumi/Inno/aLive playing against elite protosses then you probably would. sOs and Dear didn't play PvT, herO, Stats, Trap, and Classic are yet to play.
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Anyone using the GSL Ro32 as a balance metric for anything needs to buy some new glasses. There have been a grand total of ZERO matches between top Terrans, top Protosses, and top Zergs so far.
Inno played against Creator and Leenock
Solar got knocked out in pure ZvZ
sOs, Dear, and Byul is the closest we've had, depending on how losely "top" is defined
aLive played a Rogue slumping so hard he got knocked out in the Ro32 by a foreigner
soO and Zest are far better than Bunny
TY defeated Losira
Gumiho made it out with the worst possible record, against Hurricane and Losira
Right now, the gap between the best and the rest in Korea is far too large to be bridged by balance. The big favorites with prior championships (and soO) will almost always advance regardless of how balanced the game is.
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On January 21 2018 02:17 Kaewins wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2018 01:40 HuTSC2 wrote:On January 21 2018 01:32 Kaewins wrote:
With all the talk TY did of how bad Terran is at the moment I find it a bit funny they are still winning, comfortably even. Sure, if you ignore the big skill mismatch of this group. Out of the 5 GSL groups that ran so far Terran has won 3, Protoss 1 and Zerg 1. At some point we have to either get past the "skill mismatch" argument or I guess accept that terran players are just superior and can win despite their race being bad. Now I'm not saying terran is alright, I'm just saying that after all the whining I expected a bit more of a dent in those korean terrans, but nope.
How many idiotic posts are we going to see about Tier 1 Terrans beating Tier 3 x race in ro32 will we see is the real question. Code S Champ and Top 4 Terran make it out against Losira / Hurricane while dropping maps - jaw drop shocker i guess?? Must mean balance is great.
I'll throw this out there though - the more we see mech move into the meta the less we can say terran is the hardest race to play - it becomes a lot more like the other 2 races and takes away the value of having perfect mechanics (rip byun/maru)
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It's funny how people are simply dismissing Rogue losing to aLive as simply Rogue playing poorly as regardless of how true that is it wouldn't have been seen as such if TvZ was seen as being terran favoured. When Terrans lose to Protoss even if they play terribly it's always because PvT is in such a bad state.
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2018 Global StarCraft II League Season 1
