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MMA joins Team Expert

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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 02 2017 11:38 GMT
#1
Many have probably seen this coming, but it has now been officially confirmed live on stream. MMA joins his old friends from Team Acer on Team Expert!

You can still watch MMA play some games and cook from the Team Expert team house in Bad Tölz, Germany right now on https://twitch.tv/expertesport.

MMA will also be playing at HSC XVI, wearing Team Expert colours, and make his return to the pro scene just weeks after finishing his military service.

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Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
November 02 2017 11:46 GMT
#2
The quality is even worse than blizzcons stream
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bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
November 02 2017 12:20 GMT
#3
How can he play in the HSC XVI if all there are no open slots. He'll have someone to quit to have a chance.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 02 2017 12:22 GMT
#4
On November 02 2017 21:20 bulya wrote:
How can he play in the HSC XVI if all there are no open slots. He'll have someone to quit to have a chance.

So far only 30 players have been announced for HSC, 31 now with MMA.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
November 02 2017 12:29 GMT
#5
If I check the liquipedia check there are 32 players there.
If so the page isn't accurate...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 12:30:49
November 02 2017 12:30 GMT
#6
On November 02 2017 21:29 bulya wrote:
If I check the liquipedia check there are 32 players there.
If so the page isn't accurate...

If you manually count the players, you can see that there are 30.

Ignore the 25 invited and 7 qualified part.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
November 02 2017 12:44 GMT
#7
There are 2 spots for the NA/SEA qualifier, which hasn't played yet.
But there are 25 invited.

Do you think they will cut the qualifier or a spot of it so that MMA will play there?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 12:48:59
November 02 2017 12:48 GMT
#8
On November 02 2017 21:44 bulya wrote:
There are 2 spots for the NA/SEA qualifier, which hasn't played yet.
But there are 25 invited.

Do you think they will cut the qualifier or a spot of it so that MMA will play there?

NA qualifier was canceled afaik, had only 5 signups or something like that.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3710 Posts
November 02 2017 12:53 GMT
#9
...no official statement has been released for NA qualifier, despite me asking here and there, that's why LP page is still like that...
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 02 2017 13:00 GMT
#10
On November 02 2017 21:53 CynicalDeath wrote:
...no official statement has been released for NA qualifier, despite me asking here and there, that's why LP page is still like that...

I am not completely sure too, I think I saw or read something somewhere, but can't find a source.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 02 2017 13:02 GMT
#11
Naturo said it on his Twitter during the qualifier.
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 14:09:35
November 02 2017 13:08 GMT
#12
On November 02 2017 22:02 Clonester wrote:
Naturo said it on his Twitter during the qualifier.

do you have a link?
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LDaVinci
Profile Joined May 2014
France130 Posts
November 02 2017 13:30 GMT
#13
Does this mean MMA on EU next year for WCS ?
Those who refuse to become better, already stop being good
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28536 Posts
November 02 2017 13:34 GMT
#14
If so how should we call him or did we already give MMA an European name? I forget
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
November 02 2017 13:39 GMT
#15
Honestly I think he will play GSL/SSL.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
LDaVinci
Profile Joined May 2014
France130 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 13:42:33
November 02 2017 13:42 GMT
#16
On November 02 2017 22:39 Musicus wrote:
Honestly I think he will play GSL/SSL.


He can play both right ? the restriction is only for EU or NA, he needs to have a working visa or something. So if he plays EU, I think he will play GSL and SSL too. Like some foreigners tried this year
Those who refuse to become better, already stop being good
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 15:02:10
November 02 2017 13:45 GMT
#17
On November 02 2017 22:42 LDaVinci wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 22:39 Musicus wrote:
Honestly I think he will play GSL/SSL.


He can play both right ? the restriction is only for EU or NA, he needs to have a working visa or something. So if he plays EU, I think he will play GSL and SSL too. Like some foreigners tried this year

that's true yeah!

Edit: Although Koreans like TRUE and MMA have to live outside of Korea when they want to play WCS tournaments. They can't spend too much time in Korea. It's unfair compared to foreigners who are allowed to live in Korea, play GSL/SSL and still compete in the WCS Circuit, but those are the rules afaik.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
bulya
Profile Joined February 2016
Israel386 Posts
November 02 2017 13:59 GMT
#18
You must live or at least stay in KR if you want to play in the GSL. Don't know about the SSL (the rules there keep changing).
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 14:38:03
November 02 2017 14:35 GMT
#19
On November 02 2017 22:59 bulya wrote:
You must live or at least stay in KR if you want to play in the GSL. Don't know about the SSL (the rules there keep changing).

Both GSL and SSL are all offline events in KR including their qualifiers. You must be physically in Seoul those days to play. Other than that, you can stay wherever you want. Just need to show up to your matches. They have games every week so if you are super rich, you can fly back and forth between your home country and Korea weekly. :D

I hope MMA will remain in Korea but at the same time if he plays WCS Circuit, we can have a great Terran to watch!
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
November 02 2017 15:33 GMT
#20
On November 02 2017 23:35 Vutalisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 22:59 bulya wrote:
You must live or at least stay in KR if you want to play in the GSL. Don't know about the SSL (the rules there keep changing).

Both GSL and SSL are all offline events in KR including their qualifiers. You must be physically in Seoul those days to play. Other than that, you can stay wherever you want. Just need to show up to your matches. They have games every week so if you are super rich, you can fly back and forth between your home country and Korea weekly. :D

I hope MMA will remain in Korea but at the same time if he plays WCS Circuit, we can have a great Terran to watch!


I would be happy either way, it would be nice to have another good Terran in the WCS Circuit now that Polt is gone
geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
November 02 2017 15:34 GMT
#21
This is so exciting! Yessssss
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 15:57:09
November 02 2017 15:56 GMT
#22
Can this be the beginning of the return of all the old-timers now? Please?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24239 Posts
November 02 2017 16:01 GMT
#23
Was contemplating stopping to follow the sc2 scene altogether after Blizzcon to be honest. But MMA being back, now that's exciting.
NKB
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom608 Posts
November 02 2017 16:46 GMT
#24
Hopefully he will be back in some good form and we can get the old MMA chants going!
Some times you just gotta wish...
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 02 2017 17:16 GMT
#25
On November 02 2017 22:34 Penev wrote:
If so how should we call him or did we already give MMA an European name? I forget


Was it... Juergen?
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
November 02 2017 17:26 GMT
#26
Would be awesome to see him in starleagues next year
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
November 02 2017 17:26 GMT
#27
On November 03 2017 02:16 BaneRiders wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 22:34 Penev wrote:
If so how should we call him or did we already give MMA an European name? I forget


Was it... Juergen?

That was Mvp
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 02 2017 18:01 GMT
#28
Nice - hope he gets back up to form quickly!
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
November 02 2017 18:02 GMT
#29
Good lord <3
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
November 02 2017 18:09 GMT
#30
Awesome. Class is permanent!
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
November 02 2017 18:35 GMT
#31
On November 03 2017 02:26 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2017 02:16 BaneRiders wrote:
On November 02 2017 22:34 Penev wrote:
If so how should we call him or did we already give MMA an European name? I forget


Was it... Juergen?

That was Mvp


Ah true! Good memory, that man!
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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 02 2017 18:38 GMT
#32
Great to hear!
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Dav1oN
Profile Joined January 2012
Ukraine3164 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-02 19:04:30
November 02 2017 19:03 GMT
#33
On November 03 2017 01:01 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Was contemplating stopping to follow the sc2 scene altogether after Blizzcon to be honest. But MMA being back, now that's exciting.


Yeaaaa, sounds reasonable to stop following sc2 scene with 20k of posts

It didn't happened before (during blord/festor era) and it won't happen at all :D
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KingofdaHipHop
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United States25602 Posts
November 02 2017 19:07 GMT
#34
MMA back to defend his title!
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4228 Posts
November 02 2017 21:52 GMT
#35
Really glad to see MMA is back. His HSC victory was so incredibly badass, it is great he is getting an encore.
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DSK
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
England1110 Posts
November 02 2017 22:41 GMT
#36
Yay MMA back so soon!.
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zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
November 02 2017 23:04 GMT
#37
This is awesome! So glad to see him back!
KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
November 03 2017 00:16 GMT
#38
Hur-r-ay! MMA!

It's good he'll be playing in the WCS EU system so that he has time to reform his level of play after the military break instead of bashing against the wall that is in-form Terrans in WCS KR. Mirror matchup is always the hardest to recover the groove.
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
November 03 2017 00:18 GMT
#39
MMA to HSC is the best
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2974 Posts
November 03 2017 01:13 GMT
#40
Awesome to see MMA back and with his old Acer buddies (so to speak). I hope he can put up some strong results.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Zephyp
Profile Joined April 2013
238 Posts
November 03 2017 07:32 GMT
#41
What fantastic news. MMA has been greatly missed.
fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
November 03 2017 08:43 GMT
#42
That's really great. Normally this time of the year was the time of bad news but that's not the case this year at all
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
November 03 2017 11:25 GMT
#43
Excited to have MMA back in the SC2 scene! Will definitely watch his games at HSC XVI.
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-03 12:44:16
November 03 2017 12:43 GMT
#44
On November 02 2017 22:08 CynicalDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2017 22:02 Clonester wrote:
Naturo said it on his Twitter during the qualifier.

do you have a link?




I am reading out of this that while two people signed in, nobody was in the channel so the qualifier was not played do to no showups.

The player who is here saying he was there seems to accept this fate (expensive travel) and that should be it about the NA qualifier.

http://challonge.com/de/hsc16na

The bracket.
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3710 Posts
November 03 2017 13:49 GMT
#45
...thanks, I'll fix the page regarding the NA qualis even if I'd wait for the last player announcement since it seems kinda unclear...
...I think they will announce the groups in a few days so we'll see what happened...
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 03 2017 22:59 GMT
#46
nice of sc2 teams to still invest in up and coming no namers
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ProBell
Profile Joined May 2012
Thailand145 Posts
November 07 2017 08:23 GMT
#47
one of my fav terrans is backkkkk. now waitin for polt, bomber, maybe marineking to come back after military service :D
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