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GSL Super Tournament: The Last Test Before BlizzCon - Page 2

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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
September 27 2017 22:07 GMT
#21
On September 28 2017 06:21 Psychobabas wrote:
Watch (T)aLive win the whole thing

Who?
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 27 2017 22:08 GMT
#22
On September 28 2017 06:18 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 05:33 Fango wrote:
On September 28 2017 04:33 pvsnp wrote:
On September 28 2017 03:38 Fango wrote:
On September 28 2017 02:08 pvsnp wrote:
Maru vs Rogue is hype as fuck. So much on the line and a teamkill to boot. Hopefully the winner makes it to Blizzcon.


Maru and Rogue could do well but sOs is going to blizzcon

I want sOs to make Blizzcon too, but his fanboys have been so annoying as of late that I almost hope he doesn't. Calling a tournament winner literally months before it even starts is just.....

Still, I can't hold the fans against the man.


I'm cool with one of sOs, Rogue, or Maru to make blizzcon. Just wish herO could have dropped out as well


i like Maru a lot but he has not shown anything this year that suggests he will win blizzcon


I never said he would win, I just want him there because Maru vs foreigner is one of the most entertaining matchups around
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
September 27 2017 22:27 GMT
#23
$O$ will win and maintain the prophecy. I #believe.
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KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
September 27 2017 23:06 GMT
#24
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12793 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-27 23:28:33
September 27 2017 23:28 GMT
#25
On September 28 2017 07:08 Fango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 06:18 starkiller123 wrote:
On September 28 2017 05:33 Fango wrote:
On September 28 2017 04:33 pvsnp wrote:
On September 28 2017 03:38 Fango wrote:
On September 28 2017 02:08 pvsnp wrote:
Maru vs Rogue is hype as fuck. So much on the line and a teamkill to boot. Hopefully the winner makes it to Blizzcon.


Maru and Rogue could do well but sOs is going to blizzcon

I want sOs to make Blizzcon too, but his fanboys have been so annoying as of late that I almost hope he doesn't. Calling a tournament winner literally months before it even starts is just.....

Still, I can't hold the fans against the man.


I'm cool with one of sOs, Rogue, or Maru to make blizzcon. Just wish herO could have dropped out as well


i like Maru a lot but he has not shown anything this year that suggests he will win blizzcon


I never said he would win, I just want him there because Maru vs foreigner is one of the most entertaining matchups around

Me too, if there is no ByuN, please at least let Maru play against foreigners!
We already saw TY a lot, INno a bit as well. Now time for Maru!
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Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 00:03:28
September 28 2017 00:02 GMT
#26
The Maru vs Rogue match up will undoubtedly be hazardous to my health. Knowing one of these two teammates will be packing up their keyboard and mouse after their first bo5 (effectively ending all chance to participate at Blizzcon) is just too much for me to bare...

There was not, and is not a single thing in the entire starcraft2 scene this year which pains me as much as knowing Maru's unrealized potential -- I have felt it, time and time again. It is palpable. It is measurable. And it strikes me to the core.

In my dreams I see Maru facing off against INnoVation in the semi-finals. After a back and forth series exchanging blow for blow, Maru triumphs victorious! Maru then moves on to meet none other than sOs in what will be a wonky, yet ultimately epic grand finals.

Make me proud Maru. Make me believe again!
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
September 28 2017 00:06 GMT
#27
Come on sos!
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 00:44:42
September 28 2017 00:38 GMT
#28
On September 28 2017 09:02 Togekiss wrote:
The Maru vs Rogue match up will undoubtedly be hazardous to my health. Knowing one of these two teammates will be packing up their keyboard and mouse after their first bo5 (effectively ending all chance to participate at Blizzcon) is just too much for me to bare...

There was not, and is not a single thing in the entire starcraft2 scene this year which pains me as much as knowing Maru's unrealized potential -- I have felt it, time and time again. It is palpable. It is measurable. And it strikes me to the core.

In my dreams I see Maru facing off against INnoVation in the semi-finals. After a back and forth series exchanging blow for blow, Maru triumphs victorious! Maru then moves on to meet none other than sOs in what will be a wonky, yet ultimately epic grand finals.

Make me proud Maru. Make me believe again!

.........so your dreams have sOs taking the last Blizzcon spot instead of Maru?

If Maru defeats sOs in the finals, he will have 5925 WCS points. sOs will have 6050. So the 8th and final Korean spot will go to sOs.


Mathematically:
Current Maru: 4650
Current sOs: 5000

GSL Super Tournament 1st Place = 1500 WCS points
GSL Super Tournament 2nd Place = 1050 WCS points

Problem is, Maru's current point tally includes 225 points that sOs's does not because Maru qualified while sOs was seeded. sOs will not receive any points if he is knocked out in the Ro16, whereas Maru will still receive 225. But if both of them advance, both get 450 for the Ro8, 675 for the Ro4, etc, etc.

Which is to say, if Maru wins the finals his total number of WCS points will rise by 1275. If sOs wins, his total number of WCS points will rise by 1500. So even if sOs loses to Maru in the finals, sOs will still have a higher point total.

Long story short, if you want Maru to go to Blizzcon, you should be praying for sOs to drop out early. The earlier the better.
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Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
September 28 2017 02:42 GMT
#29
I think Innovation vs sOs final is a very real possibility here.
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
September 28 2017 03:47 GMT
#30
I'm hyped for this tournament, not only because it's the last big Korean tournament before Blizzcon but because the placing of the players will likely determine which (if any) foreigners make it out of their groups.

I think the weekend warriors have a good chance of advancing (Rogue, herO, sOs, Inno), but it's really tough to tell.

I think Inno/TIME will be a 3-0 for Inno, but TIME has really impressed me this year, and I think he could at the very least have some close games with Inno even if he does go without a win.

I'm specifically looking at Neeb and Nerchio's group. If they can get soO and any herO/sOs/Classic, then I think they have a good chance of making it out. On the other hand, literally any Terran drastically reduces the probability of them getting out (though a Terran + sOs is probably still ok for Neeb).
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
hiroshOne
Profile Joined October 2015
Poland425 Posts
September 28 2017 05:10 GMT
#31
^^ Korean Terran would wreck Neeb. His best chances are in ZvP and PvP as he shown in the previous GSL super tournament which he won basically avoiding terrans.
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
September 28 2017 05:29 GMT
#32
On September 28 2017 14:10 hiroshOne wrote:
^^ Korean Terran would wreck Neeb. His best chances are in ZvP and PvP as he shown in the previous GSL super tournament which he won basically avoiding terrans.



If it's a Korean T and P, then he has a chance against the P. I wouldn't say that he has "no" chance against Maru, TY, or Gumiho, but he has a substantially better chance against soO...maybe even Dark and of course any Protoss.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 05:37:55
September 28 2017 05:33 GMT
#33
On September 28 2017 14:29 FrkFrJss wrote:
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On September 28 2017 14:10 hiroshOne wrote:
^^ Korean Terran would wreck Neeb. His best chances are in ZvP and PvP as he shown in the previous GSL super tournament which he won basically avoiding terrans.



If it's a Korean T and P, then he has a chance against the P. I wouldn't say that he has "no" chance against Maru, TY, or Gumiho, but he has a substantially better chance against soO...maybe even Dark and of course any Protoss.

soO maybe, though he is a beast in ZvP and ZvZ when in form. Gumiho is inconsistent, so maybe him too (but I think he is virtually guaranteed #6 in the standings).

Dark, though, of all people? Dark eats foreigners for breakfast, without any milk. I think the foreigners might even prefer to face Inno over Dark.
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FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 05:46:37
September 28 2017 05:43 GMT
#34
On September 28 2017 14:33 pvsnp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 14:29 FrkFrJss wrote:
On September 28 2017 14:10 hiroshOne wrote:
^^ Korean Terran would wreck Neeb. His best chances are in ZvP and PvP as he shown in the previous GSL super tournament which he won basically avoiding terrans.



If it's a Korean T and P, then he has a chance against the P. I wouldn't say that he has "no" chance against Maru, TY, or Gumiho, but he has a substantially better chance against soO...maybe even Dark and of course any Protoss.

soO maybe, though he is a beast in ZvP and ZvZ when in form. Gumiho is inconsistent, so maybe him too (but I think he is virtually guaranteed #6 in the standings).

Dark, though, of all people? Dark eats foreigners for breakfast without any milk. I think the foreigners might even prefer to face Inno over Dark.


I know Dark is super scary, but Neeb is at the very least better at PvZ than PvT. I believe Nerchio has done better versus Korean Zerg than Korean Terran, or at the very least he has a decent amount of experience beating Solar. I really don't think any foreigner wants to face Inno right now. He is monstrously scary in TvZ and TvP.

soO is definitely a strong opponent, but if he plays like he did in GSL vs the World, I would be less worried.

If:

Gumiho doesn't advance very far
Dark beats one opponent
Stats beats one opponent
sOs maintains his spot

Then, the fourth and eighth spot will be soO and sOs respectively. I think that would be an ideal situation because sOs is rather inconsistent, and even though he just got second, there will be ample time for preparation before the ro16, and sOs is not as good in the preparation format as he is in the weekend tournament

Then soO is as we discussed. He would be going up against Neeb's best matchup and a matchup where Nerchio would have a lot of experience since Nerchio is from the EU region.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
September 28 2017 06:16 GMT
#35
On September 17 2017 19:52 Diabolique wrote:
It seems, sOs is ALMOST qualified for BlizzCon. After today's qualifiers, ByuN is out of the race.
So the only contenders for the 8th place are:
sOs 5000
Maru 4650
aLive 4625
Classic 4425
Rogue 4325

sOs will be eliminated only if the other contenders earn by 350 points more than him (and it already counts the 225, they got for qualifying) in SuperTournament 2.

If sOs wins in round 1, he will be guaranteed 225+225 points, so they would need to earn by 350+225 points more than him (450), so at least 1025 points. The winner gets 1500 points, the second gets 1050 points. If sOs wins in round 2, they would need to get at least 1250 points.

So if sOs wins in round 1, but not in round 2 and
- Maru gets to the finals, Maru goes to BlizzCon, otherwise sOs.
- aLive loses in the finals, a tie break between aLive and sOs will be played.
- aLive wins the finals, aLive goes to BlizzCon, otherwise sOs.
- Classic wins the finals, Classic goes to BlizzCon, otherwise sOs.
- Rogue wins the finals, Rogue goes to BlizzCon, otherwise sOs.

If sOs wins in both rounds 1 and 2, but loses in the semifinals, Rogue is out and all Maru, aLive and Classic would need to win the finals to overtake sOs for BlizzCon.

If sOs loses in first round, Maru and aLive would need to get to the semifinals to overtake sOs, Classic and Rogue would need to get to the finals.

sOs is in an easy position ... he just needs to win against Ryung and the probability someone overtakes him is very low.
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 28 2017 07:58 GMT
#36
Seriously, Time is qualified while Cure will stay at home, this is how fair are the qualifiers.

I 'm really upset about this
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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-28 09:03:24
September 28 2017 09:02 GMT
#37
On September 28 2017 09:02 Togekiss wrote:
The Maru vs Rogue match up will undoubtedly be hazardous to my health. Knowing one of these two teammates will be packing up their keyboard and mouse after their first bo5 (effectively ending all chance to participate at Blizzcon) is just too much for me to bare...

There was not, and is not a single thing in the entire starcraft2 scene this year which pains me as much as knowing Maru's unrealized potential -- I have felt it, time and time again. It is palpable. It is measurable. And it strikes me to the core.

In my dreams I see Maru facing off against INnoVation in the semi-finals. After a back and forth series exchanging blow for blow, Maru triumphs victorious! Maru then moves on to meet none other than sOs in what will be a wonky, yet ultimately epic grand finals.

Make me proud Maru. Make me believe again!


The problem with Maru is that he always shows high level games until it matters the most. He crushes so many GSL groups and then never makes through playoffs. At iem he looked unbeatable against byun and inno at first, then lost to byun in the damn rematch.

Zest is the god of not living up to his potential though
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
September 28 2017 09:49 GMT
#38
Is this gonna be the last tournament of the year?
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55511 Posts
September 28 2017 10:00 GMT
#39
On September 28 2017 18:49 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Is this gonna be the last tournament of the year?

The last big one before Blizzcon.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
September 28 2017 10:18 GMT
#40
On September 28 2017 19:00 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2017 18:49 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Is this gonna be the last tournament of the year?

The last big one before Blizzcon.


Do you think we will get another IEM Gyeonggi ?
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