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On September 05 2017 04:36 Alarak89 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2017 23:12 RKC wrote:On September 04 2017 18:48 Alarak89 wrote:
"Mental strength is a factor in a Bo7 against sOs, an experienced player when it comes to preparation and psychological warfare."
It's kind funny to doubt sOs' mental toughness in Bo7 especially comparing to Stats. IMO Stats is one of the most stable and least "efficient" player in SC2 history because of his performance this year in particular.
sOs went to 10 grand finals and won 7 out of them, whereas Stats went to 6 grand finals and won 3 of them throughout their career, and you guys know how many opportunities Stats wasted in this year, given it is his best year in his career.
Will more "efficient" player be less mentally tough? If Stats has half of sOs' mental ability he would win at least one more title this year so far. After all, if Stats is mentally strong, he would win some big tournaments already in HotS due to his micro and potential. sOs has only won weekend championships, and his farthest Starleague run was a rather unimpressive one that ended in getting bopped by Byun. Stats, in contrast, seem to excel better in Starleagues - where preparation matters more. Hence, Stats should have the edge here. If it was IEM or Blizzcon, sOs and his bag of builds would have better odds, naturally. I'm not talking about who has the edge here, I'm talking about mental toughness, they are two different topics. Does mental ability have to do with weekend or starleague tournament as long as it's a bo7 series? Shouldn't a true mentally tough player be good (and by "good", I mean champion titles) at both type of tournaments? Also be careful when to use the word "impressive" because this word is totally subjective. You think Stats is more "impressive" since he got a lot of Ro.4 or runner-up career wise in starleague, possibly more than Bogus, sOs or Zest's offline champion titles, but result wise this is exactly "inefficient" and therefore less "impressive" to me as I said above. In my opinion, a 7 champion titles holder will always have better mental strength than a 3 champion titles holder given they both have played same game for more than 5 years, doesn't matter what sports it is.
Why must better results be down to 'mental toughness'? Maybe sOs was just more skilled than Stats during the 5-year period?
It's tempting to distinguish serial winners (Inno) and losers (soO) based on their mental state. In most sports where conditions are almost symmetrical (tennis) - yes, that may be true. But in an asymmetrical (races) and volatile (maps, patches, etc.) game like SC2, it's less clear-cut to say that "since everything equal, therefore factor X must be the defining factor".
Why I speak vaguely of 'edges' is because I'm not certain why a SC2 player wins more trophies than the other (aside from more tangible factors such as skill, and arguably, 'externalities' such as format of competition, team-house priorities, etc.). You seem very sure that 'mental toughness' is the defining factor. I disagree. I think there are multiple factors at play, internal and external.
Fine, for the sake of argument, let's just compare the 'mental toughness' of sOs and Stats. I still don't see much disparity between them. Stats seem quite mentally solid. He's not prone to tilting. He's no MKP, herO, or soO. And even if sOs has the 'mental toughness' edge, it's slight and unlikely to influence the outcome of their match by much. To me, the match will be determined more by skill, preparation and mind-games.
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I just noticed that all of the first place finishers (Solar, Byun, Rogue, TY) in the Ro16 are out and all of the second place finishers (INnoVation, sOs, Dark, Stats) advanced
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It's not about being good when it comes Starcraft.
It's about momentum, fortitude, mental strength, class and boldness.
Relentless hard work doesn't write storylines!
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On September 05 2017 01:54 TheOneAboveU wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2017 00:03 Drfilip wrote:
Am I the only one who find it confusing to read "next week", in a text published early monday (unless you live close to the date line), but referring to the same week?
07:44 GMT on monday is mere hours before the first match of "next week". Are the writers living on Hawaii or something? No, it's not a timezone issue. In this particular instance I wrote the article on Saturday, with it being released on Sunday ideally - so the "next week" bits do make sense, if everything had worked out as planned. As it happens, sometimes stuff is sitting around for longer than planned, though. Our editors have a real life as well (I know, shocking!), so articles might be released a bit later than originally planned out, such as Monday morning. I apologize for any confusion, but it's really not too hard to figure out in my opinion.
You are right. It's not hard to figure out and it is understandable that things gets delayed for various reasons.
I have a suggestion, though. Write the weekly preview in the time of "this week". That way the readers will get the right time even if the article gets delayed.
Thanks for spending time writing these every week!
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On September 05 2017 19:23 Drfilip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2017 01:54 TheOneAboveU wrote:On September 05 2017 00:03 Drfilip wrote:
Am I the only one who find it confusing to read "next week", in a text published early monday (unless you live close to the date line), but referring to the same week?
07:44 GMT on monday is mere hours before the first match of "next week". Are the writers living on Hawaii or something? No, it's not a timezone issue. In this particular instance I wrote the article on Saturday, with it being released on Sunday ideally - so the "next week" bits do make sense, if everything had worked out as planned. As it happens, sometimes stuff is sitting around for longer than planned, though. Our editors have a real life as well (I know, shocking!), so articles might be released a bit later than originally planned out, such as Monday morning. I apologize for any confusion, but it's really not too hard to figure out in my opinion. You are right. It's not hard to figure out and it is understandable that things gets delayed for various reasons. I have a suggestion, though. Write the weekly preview in the time of "this week". That way the readers will get the right time even if the article gets delayed. Thanks for spending time writing these every week!
Thank you for the feedback, will definitely keep it in mind next time.
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I like Stats but I'd rather see sOs at Blizzcon than herO or ByuN. Looks like I'm cheering for him on this one
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On September 05 2017 19:18 Ej_ wrote:
It's not about being good when it comes Starcraft.
It's about momentum, fortitude, mental strength, class and boldness.
Relentless hard work doesn't write storylines!
But relentless hard word is something that most of the top Pros have in common. It's hard to distinguish between them in that regard. So the other stuff is what comes on top and is easier to describe - especially if you have someone like sOs who really is outstanding in his aura of "I don't care".
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On September 05 2017 19:18 Ej_ wrote:
It's not about being good when it comes Starcraft.
It's about momentum, fortitude, mental strength, class and boldness.
Relentless hard work doesn't write storylines!
It's about knowing how to win, something all of those things can help with.
And we don't have a clue who works the hardest out of all the players so that's a pointless thing to comment on. They all clearly work hard, some to more success than others
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