Just a few weeks ago, we at Teamliquid revived a fan favorite. Power rankings have long been a lightning rod for discussion. After all, nothing beats fans going at it over who is best; except for uniting those warring fans against the Team Liquid writers, of course. And so, with Power Rankings having already made their return, it only seemed fair that we give the other fan favorite its time in the spotlight, predictions. We know, you can scarcely believe it. So instead of wasting words on hype, we’ll just right into it. Without further ado, here they are, predictions for the 2017 GSL Season 3 Round of 16.
Group A
The opening match between GuMiho and INnoVation is perhaps the toughest one to call in Group A. INnoVation has been on fire as of late, but the two elite Terrans have played seven times since May 9, with GuMiho winning the last six, including a 3-2 in Master’s Coliseum just a few days ago. INnoVation may be the objectively better player, but look for GuMiho’s success to continue as he moves on to the winner’s match. The next match is far less competitive. Solar has been fumbling lately and should be easy picking for aLive, who quietly finished fifth in SSL Premier Season 1 despite forfeiting away a likely victory to Patience (who only went 3-5 in matches he did play). aLive will not be able to build on that victory, however, as GuMiho’s superior class will shine through, making the defending champion the first quarterfinalist. Solar will suffer another defeat at INnoVation’s hand, setting up a third TvT to end the group. Again, INnoVation will favored on paper, but aLive defeated him in the Super Tournament and IEM Katowice and will repeat that feat, eliminating INnoVation from the tournament and temporarily silencing the cries of bonjwa.
GuMiho2-1 INnoVation aLive2-0 Solar GuMiho2-1 aLive INnoVation2-0 Solar aLive2-0 INnoVation
Protoss make their Round of 16 debut with Group B. herO has some of the best PvT in the world, with an 8-3 mark in matches since the beginning of July. He’ll make easy work of ByuN on his way to the winner’s match. sOs was one of the biggest surprises of the Round of 32, topping his group despite being viewed as completely out of form. That positive result should be difficult to duplicate against Bunny, who looked very solid against Dear in his own Round 32 group. herO will glide through his second consecutive PvT while ByuN will dispatch sOs in the loser’s match, setting up another TvT decider match. The two Terran haven’t played one another since April and, while ByuN is the bigger name, Bunny has looked imperious in SSL Challenge. Figure him to keep the momentum going, knocking the 2016 Blizzcon champ out of the event.
herO2-1 ByuN Bunny2-0 sOs herO2-1 Bunny ByuN2-0 sOs Bunny2-1 ByuN
The second of three groups featuring three of one race, Group C starts with a ZvZ between soO and Dark. soO owns a 13-4 record in the maps (6-1 in matches) between former teammates, so expect him to add to that gaudy total. Rogue meanwhile is in incredible form. He should keep things rolling against Classic. The winner’s match between soO and Rogue features the most prolific ZvZ’er of all time against the best ZvZ player of 2016, Rogue. Rogue holds the advantage in lifetime matches, but soO beat him last time around and should do so again, sending him to a third straight quarterfinal. Dark and Classic avoided each other in the Round of 16 during Season 1, but they’ll have no choice but to do battle with their tournament lives on the line this time around. Dark has exceptional ZvP and holds a 4-1 series record against Classic in 2017, a margin he will widen to four. Having defeated his former teammate, Dark will find himself in murkier waters. Dark’s weakness has always been his ZvZ, something Rogue will exploit. Expect a bloodbath as Rogue becomes the second Zerg to reach the Round of 8.
soO2-0 Dark Rogue2-0 Classic soO2-1 Rogue Dark2-0 Classic Rogue2-0 Dark
The last group of the Round of 16 kicks off with the heavily favored Stats taking on Hurricane. Stats has looked shaky over the past month or so, posting a 15-11 record in matches since the start of July. Despite his struggles, he should easily take care of the inferior Protoss. TY will do the same against Patience. The winner’s match will be a more balanced matchup. Stats has struggled with INnoVation as of late, but should have no such troubles against TY, who is recovering from an abominable showing in the GSL vs The World finals. Patience will regain his footing with a win over Hurricane before meeting TY for the second time. Patience has made strides as of late in PvT (winning six of his last seven matches), but has struggled since April against players not named jjakji (he is 4-0 in matches against him, but 16-23 in games against all other Terrans). He will revert to old form and fall to TY for the second time on the day, adding another disappointing result to a year that has failed to follow up on the promise of 2016, while also sending TY on to the next stage.
Stats2-0 Hurricane TY2-0 Patience Stats2-1 TY Patience2-1 Hurricane TY2-1 Patience
As always, we at Teamliquid cannot wait for our predictions to be put under the microscope and dissected. Please reply to let us know why we were wrong or why you know better. With the Round of 16 starting on August 16, there’s plenty of time to figure out definitively who should beat who.
Inno's TvT was bad back when aLive beat him at IEM and Super Tournament. Right now he's coming of crushing wins against TY, ByuN, Maru, and even aLive. His TvT is untouchable, better than aLive's has ever been tbh
Idc about Group B's results as long as ByuN doesn't make it, if he gets out the group it puts him into top 8 WCS which I don't want for some reason
Group C is serious GOD material. Any of them are good enough to win GSL. The three best zergs in the world in there as well.
Group D should be the easiest to choose lol, but upsets are welcome.
Betting against Inno's TvT after he swept TY seems a bit....presumptuous. I could see Gumiho (barely) winning their series but aLive has been distinctly unimpressive as of late.
Also probably worth noting that Inno vs Gumiho's most recent occurrence was in OGTV's 6 start tournament two days ago, when Inno reverse-swept Gumiho in the finals. The final match saw Inno's mech beating Gumiho's bio.
On August 15 2017 04:17 The_Red_Viper wrote: Inno not making it out of the group is certainly possible, but that feels more like a wish than a prediction
TL bias smh
"and temporarily silencing the cries of bonjwa." ^That line just reeks of salt. So much salt.
On August 15 2017 04:17 pvsnp wrote: Betting against Inno's TvT after he swept TY seems a bit....presumptuous. I could see Gumiho (barely) winning their series but aLive has been distinctly unimpressive as of late.
Also probably worth noting that Inno vs Gumiho's most recent occurrence was in OGTV's 6 start tournament two days ago, when Inno reverse-swept Gumiho in the finals. The final match saw Inno's mech beating Gumiho's bio.
Well
Reverse sweep means he got 2-0'd first, good enough for GSL
On August 15 2017 04:17 pvsnp wrote: Betting against Inno's TvT after he swept TY seems a bit....presumptuous. I could see Gumiho (barely) winning their series but aLive has been distinctly unimpressive as of late.
Also probably worth noting that Inno vs Gumiho's most recent occurrence was in OGTV's 6 start tournament two days ago, when Inno reverse-swept Gumiho in the finals. The final match saw Inno's mech beating Gumiho's bio.
To be fair, this was probably written before the OG 6 Start. And even if it wasn't, I can understand not taking into account a mod that isn't used in GSL
First of all, sOs will play with Bunny and herO will play with Byun, you need switch the two Terran's names in prediction except for thr last match, assuming you want to keep your prediction.
This is laughable; predicting Innovation doesn't make it through? Really?! I can see him losing to maybe Gumiho, if that, but to have alive 2-0 Inno....come on, what are you smoking?
On August 15 2017 07:14 Phattyasmo wrote: This is laughable; predicting Innovation doesn't make it through? Really?! I can see him losing to maybe Gumiho, if that, but to have alive 2-0 Inno....come on, what are you smoking?
Is it likely? probably not but upsets do happen and he is in a pretty strong group
GuMiho 2-1 INnoVation Solar 2-0 aLive Solar 2-0 GuMiho INoVation 2-1 aLive INoVation 2-1 GuMiho
1st: Solar 2nd: INoVation 3rd: GuMiho 4th: aLive
Let's face it, Solar is a god against terran right now. Look at his streak vs many other top terrans right now. He's going to 2-0 every terran he faces minus maybe INoNvation and ByuN. Good for him though, INoVation, who is better at TvZ than GuMiho is going to lose to GuMiho in the opening match so Solar doesn't have to play vs INoVation. Afterwards, we have INoVation, the best player in the world right now, will just ease by the other two players in the group, most likely going 2-1.
ByuN 2-1 herO sOs 2-0 Bunny ByuN 2-0 sOs herO 2-1 Bunny sOs 2-1 herO
1st: ByuN 2nd: sOs 3rd: herO 4th: Bunny
ByuN is the best player in this group and will advance in first place. I'm guessing he will drop one map to herO and that will be it. sOs is going to beat bunny pretty convincingly who will then get stomped by ByuN causing ByuN to come out in first. I do believe herO could bomb out as last place in this group but he'll probably go down 0-1 in the losers match and then come back and win it 2-1. We then have the PvP final match of sOs vs herO. I'm guessing 2-1 in favor of sOs.
soO 2-1 Dark Classic 0-2 Rogue soO 1-2 Rogue Dark 2-0 Classic soO 1-2 Dark
1st: Rogue 2nd: Dark 3rd: soO 4th: Classic
Sorry Dark, you're good but not soO good (until soO flusters and can't recover after his loss to Rogue). It is ZvZ though so I'd imagine something fishy catchy soO off guard. 2-1 soO. Next up, Classic vs Rogue. Talk about one sided. Classic will probably throw somehow even begin ahead. 2-0 Rogue. Battle of the two ZvZ masters with soO vs Rogue and although I think soO is better and will win his first game he will probably then end up losing game 2, getting flustered and losing. 2-1 Rogue. Losers match with Classic vs Dark is going to be sad because Classic already crashed and burned against Rogue so might as well do it to another top notch zerg. 2-0 Dark. The final match of the night will be Dark vs soO and it will be just like the first match and come down to the final game. Unfortunately for soO though, he's not going to relive his 2nd place curse over and over again and we'll finally see Dark going farther into GSL. 2-1 Dark.
Stats 2-1 Hurricane TY 2-0 Patience TY 2-0 Stats Patience 2-0 Hurricane Patience 2-1 Stats
1st: TY 2nd: Patience 3rd: Stats 4th: Hurriacane
Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.
On August 15 2017 11:54 SidianTheBard wrote: INnoVation 2-0 GuMiho aLive 2-0 Solar INnoVation 2-0 aLive GuMiho 2-1 Solar aLive 2-1 GuMiho
1st: INnoVation 2nd: aLive 3rd: GuMiho 4th: Solar
Let's face it, INnoVation is still the best and saying he won't make it past the Ro16 basically sets it in stone that TL doesn't know what they are talking about. After reading that Group A prediction you can basically throw the rest of the predictions in the trash... <3 aLive is going to edge our GuMiho in the final game of the night by making everything turn into chaos, drops, pushes, possible base trades, low scv count.
ByuN 2-0 herO sOs 2-1 Bunny sOs 2-1 ByuN Bunny 2-1 herO ByuN 2-0 Bunny
1st: sOs 2nd: ByuN 3rd: Bunny 4th: herO
ByuN will out micro herO to death. sOs will out macro (yes...out macro) Bunny. sOs is going to pull out some wacky and shit builds to beat ByuN. I'm guessing some type of Void Ray all in. Chargelot void ray all-in probably. herO won't recover from his brutal beating by ByuN and will choke to Bunny who will then just get outplayed by ByuN.
soO 2-0 Dark Classic 2-0 Rogue Classic 2-1 soO Dark 2-0 Rogue soO 2-0 Dark
1st: Classic 2nd: soO 3rd: Dark 4th: Rogue
As much as we want Dark to advance, he won't because soO and Classic. Dark beats Rogue 24/7 ezpz but Classic will have a shit load of good PvZ builds and only will practice that so he'll come out #1. Then at that point, it comes down to who can beat soO in ZvZ and that answer is nobody. Easiest group to call.
Stats 2-1 Hurricane TY 2-0 Patience TY 2-0 Stats Patience 2-0 Hurricane Patience 2-1 Stats
1st: TY 2nd: Patience 3rd: Stats 4th: Hurriacane
Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.
lol i disagree with almost all of your predictions, should be interesting to see what happens
On August 15 2017 11:54 SidianTheBard wrote: INnoVation 2-0 GuMiho aLive 2-0 Solar INnoVation 2-0 aLive GuMiho 2-1 Solar aLive 2-1 GuMiho
1st: INnoVation 2nd: aLive 3rd: GuMiho 4th: Solar
Let's face it, INnoVation is still the best and saying he won't make it past the Ro16 basically sets it in stone that TL doesn't know what they are talking about. After reading that Group A prediction you can basically throw the rest of the predictions in the trash... <3 aLive is going to edge our GuMiho in the final game of the night by making everything turn into chaos, drops, pushes, possible base trades, low scv count.
ByuN 2-0 herO sOs 2-1 Bunny sOs 2-1 ByuN Bunny 2-1 herO ByuN 2-0 Bunny
1st: sOs 2nd: ByuN 3rd: Bunny 4th: herO
ByuN will out micro herO to death. sOs will out macro (yes...out macro) Bunny. sOs is going to pull out some wacky and shit builds to beat ByuN. I'm guessing some type of Void Ray all in. Chargelot void ray all-in probably. herO won't recover from his brutal beating by ByuN and will choke to Bunny who will then just get outplayed by ByuN.
soO 2-0 Dark Classic 2-0 Rogue Classic 2-1 soO Dark 2-0 Rogue soO 2-0 Dark
1st: Classic 2nd: soO 3rd: Dark 4th: Rogue
As much as we want Dark to advance, he won't because soO and Classic. Dark beats Rogue 24/7 ezpz but Classic will have a shit load of good PvZ builds and only will practice that so he'll come out #1. Then at that point, it comes down to who can beat soO in ZvZ and that answer is nobody. Easiest group to call.
Stats 2-1 Hurricane TY 2-0 Patience TY 2-0 Stats Patience 2-0 Hurricane Patience 2-1 Stats
1st: TY 2nd: Patience 3rd: Stats 4th: Hurriacane
Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.
Rogue 3-0'd Dark at IEM Shanghai and also beat him in ShoutCraft 2 days ago
On August 15 2017 11:54 SidianTheBard wrote: INnoVation 2-0 GuMiho aLive 2-0 Solar INnoVation 2-0 aLive GuMiho 2-1 Solar aLive 2-1 GuMiho
1st: INnoVation 2nd: aLive 3rd: GuMiho 4th: Solar
Let's face it, INnoVation is still the best and saying he won't make it past the Ro16 basically sets it in stone that TL doesn't know what they are talking about. After reading that Group A prediction you can basically throw the rest of the predictions in the trash... <3 aLive is going to edge our GuMiho in the final game of the night by making everything turn into chaos, drops, pushes, possible base trades, low scv count.
ByuN 2-0 herO sOs 2-1 Bunny sOs 2-1 ByuN Bunny 2-1 herO ByuN 2-0 Bunny
1st: sOs 2nd: ByuN 3rd: Bunny 4th: herO
ByuN will out micro herO to death. sOs will out macro (yes...out macro) Bunny. sOs is going to pull out some wacky and shit builds to beat ByuN. I'm guessing some type of Void Ray all in. Chargelot void ray all-in probably. herO won't recover from his brutal beating by ByuN and will choke to Bunny who will then just get outplayed by ByuN.
soO 2-0 Dark Classic 2-0 Rogue Classic 2-1 soO Dark 2-0 Rogue soO 2-0 Dark
1st: Classic 2nd: soO 3rd: Dark 4th: Rogue
As much as we want Dark to advance, he won't because soO and Classic. Dark beats Rogue 24/7 ezpz but Classic will have a shit load of good PvZ builds and only will practice that so he'll come out #1. Then at that point, it comes down to who can beat soO in ZvZ and that answer is nobody. Easiest group to call.
Stats 2-1 Hurricane TY 2-0 Patience TY 2-0 Stats Patience 2-0 Hurricane Patience 2-1 Stats
1st: TY 2nd: Patience 3rd: Stats 4th: Hurriacane
Hurricane is going to take a super cheesy DT game off Stats which is going to put a chink in his armor and not make him as confident. TY then turns horseman and goes undefeated in his group 2-0ing both Patiences & Stats. Patiences absolutely crushes Hurricane and crushes him hard and carries that momentum into Stats, losing the first game, cheesing the second and winning into the epic 33 minute PvP slugfest on Ascension to Aiur to close out the night.
>Claims TL doesn't know what its talking about >provides the dumbest predictions in years
We all know that Innovation's strong phase enters in the second half of the year. He got 2 GSL titles like that. Rather he is not showing his full potential yet, it is not wise to count him out. I've always been surprised why people predict herO to beat them all. He is not ready yet for a Code S finals. Quick matches and fast aggression are not the keys to jump to Round 8.
On August 15 2017 04:17 pvsnp wrote: Betting against Inno's TvT after he swept TY seems a bit....presumptuous. I could see Gumiho (barely) winning their series but aLive has been distinctly unimpressive as of late.
Also probably worth noting that Inno vs Gumiho's most recent occurrence was in OGTV's 6 start tournament two days ago, when Inno reverse-swept Gumiho in the finals. The final match saw Inno's mech beating Gumiho's bio.
It just pure bias, using stats from april and march and ignoring the recent TvT improvment of INno. Don't get me wrong, he can totaly be eliminated by aLive and gumi but that is not the most likely case. A lot of salt behind those predictions, maybe because INnoVation is on his way to definitly surpass Mvp
I think INnoVation and GuMiho advance from group A, but all the other groups seem kinda dull to me. herO, ByuN, soO, Rogue, TY and Stats are obvious picks
On August 15 2017 16:06 EEk1TwEEk wrote: OK this predictions are trash
and btw why everyone says that soO beats Rogue in a ZvZ? I think Rogue will revenge. He should have won in Ro8 against soO 3-1 in 2nd Season
With that logic soO should have won 6 GSLs.
Rogue vs soO was much much closer than the majority of soO's finals
That's irrelevant. He's basically saying "If Rogue hadn't made a mistake, he would have won". Well no shit, if soO hadn't made mistakes he would have won his GSLs. If Maru had closed his wall in IEM Taipei, he would have won. But they didn't.
On August 15 2017 16:45 Sakat wrote: I think INnoVation and GuMiho advance from group A, but all the other groups seem kinda dull to me. herO, ByuN, soO, Rogue, TY and Stats are obvious picks
Tbh the only one that looks really obvious on paper is group D since TY and Stats are just actually in a very different tier than Patience and Hurricane. Like yeah, ByuN and herO are the favorites in group B, but they play each other first which gives the group a bunch of upset potential. And everyone in group C is a god (although Dark against the best ZvZers in Korea probably means he's just screwed again).
On August 15 2017 16:45 Sakat wrote: I think INnoVation and GuMiho advance from group A, but all the other groups seem kinda dull to me. herO, ByuN, soO, Rogue, TY and Stats are obvious picks
Tbh the only one that looks really obvious on paper is group D since TY and Stats are just actually in a very different tier than Patience and Hurricane. Like yeah, ByuN and herO are the favorites in group B, but they play each other first which gives the group a bunch of upset potential. And everyone in group C is a god (although Dark against the best ZvZers in Korea probably means he's just screwed again).
C doesn't seem so hard tbh. Rogue and soO are the clear favorites because Classic's PvZ is really struggling (except for his mass Oracle play but Dark already beat that in SSL) and Dark's ZvZ is just not up to par with that of Rogue/soO.
Agreed on TY and Stats for D.
B is trickier in that herO would be a clear favorite except sOs is also there, so I'd have to say ByuN/sOs though it's really hard to call.
A is the trickiest of all because TvT is just so volatile. Also Solar can't be underestimated since he only has to prep for ZvT and has always been a clever/creative guy. Inno is a slight favorite but that's about all I can say. If I had to guess I would go Inno/Gumi but Inno/Solar is also very possible and all the other combos are only marginally less likely. aLive definitely seems the underdog here though, but that's mostly because he just hasn't played in much of anything recently (except SSL where he's gotten wrecked) so it's hard to estimate his current form.
@ everyone who is saying innovation will surely advance
Remember the last time He played alive? Every game he got outmultitasked until he found himself boxing everything and marching across the map into a superior tank count. Newkirk was especially brutal. People even said he was slumping after that but he actually just got dumpstered
ALive actually tilts innovation when they play, something i have not read in this thread that should be mentioned. I fully expect proxy raxes from innovation because he will not take that series if his play is anything like it has been in TvT
aLive has had his few weeks of godlike play already this year, and that was a few months ago. Id be surprised to see him advance, but given it's TvT I guess it's possible.
really funny when people get mad over predictions like they are actual science. "omfg these writers dont know wtf theyre talking about, its almost like they want this to be at least a tiny bit interesting and not cookie cutter predictions" etc. also pretty sure SidianTheBard is just trolling, c0sm0naut might be as well (classics pvz has been pretty terrible for the last couple of months + z favored meta + 0-3 vs rogue last time they met, 0-4 vs soO & 1-2 1-2 vs dark).
i dont agree with all the predictions either, but they seem reasonable over all
On August 15 2017 21:45 c0sm0naut wrote: @ everyone who is saying innovation will surely advance
Remember the last time He played alive? Every game he got outmultitasked until he found himself boxing everything and marching across the map into a superior tank count. Newkirk was especially brutal. People even said he was slumping after that but he actually just got dumpstered
ALive actually tilts innovation when they play, something i have not read in this thread that should be mentioned. I fully expect proxy raxes from innovation because he will not take that series if his play is anything like it has been in TvT
What we remember is that Inno has not lost a TvT series since he got kicked out of some online tournament by Gumiho around the time his Season 2 Ro16 group came up (maybe group came up later, though in which case his loss in group tvt is his last tvt series loss).
lol ok kids I sure am "trolling" to believe that classic, code S regular has a chance at advancing in a group with the choke artist soo and rogue just because rogue won a thing recently? dont lump me in with the guy predicting voidray chargelot all ins please
from time and time again, the TL writers and others may make gut calls on series or players and statistics might disagree with them. however, we do this only because we feel that statistics dont tell the whole tale, and its up to you as a community to not get butthurt about them, because thats literally all they are... predictions
for example, the last time i dared come to this forum to discuss groups, i made the claim that trap was going to have a really close series vs stats, if not take it. everyone says trap might win a game at max, says im trolling, says he wont win a game. it turns out in the six games they fucking played, they both won three and stats just happened to win the second series so he advanced and trap didnt. you kids just buy into the caster hype which has redundantly praised innovation for being a top terran, stats for being a top protoss and dark for being a top zerg. they have unfairly treated other players like aLive and Gumi who have virtually the same level of accomplishments/consistency becuase for some reason artosis just cannot get off their dicks (sort of like you guys, how funny). the reality is that all of these players are incredibly skilled and really do push this game to the limits, being totally sure of a prediction is severely more foolish than being open minded to the possibility of a rare outcome
@lolfail9001
inovation lost a best of 5 vs gumiho not even one week ago and innovation has beaten alive since the series i was talking about, because i forgot how much they play each other.
but it really dosent matter, because i predict that innovation will get exposed by aLive and until he does or doesnt expose him, i can't be wrong
for example, the last time i dared come to this forum to discuss groups, i made the claim that trap was going to have a really close series vs stats, if not take it. everyone says trap might win a game at max, says im trolling, says he wont win a game. it turns out in the ten games they fucking played, they both won 5 and stats just happened to win the second series so he advanced and trap didnt.
look at my post history im not going to dig for it. i barely use this shit anyhow so im sure its on the first page.
its funny how you can even mentally manage to post here greater than 40k times without losing your mind (assuming this post isnt evidence of the contrary). i guess when you post meaningless shit constantly, like a picture of a star saying "prove it" in a forum that archives posts, you can really get taht post number going without actually mentally engaging with this community
its funny, youre wrong until youre right, right?
i was the guy who predicted soulkeys reverse sweep vs innovation and i have the pictures to prove it, along with pictures of the countless idiots here who said it wasnt going to happen because it wasnt even in their realm of possibilities. the first and only reverse sweep in the GSL finals, something the idiot casters in code S couldn't seem to remember because they just Love Love Love their InnoVation, and had repressed the memory of him getting dumpstered back to back to back to back by a player who was just straight up better
the fact that we have to remind people not to call inovation a bonjwa is a testament to how brainwashed artosis has TL
Ok dude. That fact o the matter is that INnoVation and maybe Rogue look super dominant right now. Granted anything can happen in a tournament, but betting against them just seems foolish
On August 16 2017 01:57 c0sm0naut wrote: i guess when you post meaningless shit constantly, like a picture of a star saying "prove it" in a forum that archives posts, you can really get taht post number going without actually mentally engaging with this community
Pretty sure the star says "well done!". Perhaps I need some new glasses
On August 15 2017 23:47 Executer08 wrote: really funny when people get mad over predictions like they are actual science. "omfg these writers dont know wtf theyre talking about, its almost like they want this to be at least a tiny bit interesting and not cookie cutter predictions" etc. also pretty sure SidianTheBard is just trolling, c0sm0naut might be as well (classics pvz has been pretty terrible for the last couple of months + z favored meta + 0-3 vs rogue last time they met, 0-4 vs soO & 1-2 1-2 vs dark).
i dont agree with all the predictions either, but they seem reasonable over all
Psh, my predictions are 100% accurate. I'll make sure to PM you after Ro16 linking back to my predictions again so you can bask in my awesomeness.
On August 16 2017 01:57 c0sm0naut wrote: i guess when you post meaningless shit constantly, like a picture of a star saying "prove it" in a forum that archives posts, you can really get taht post number going without actually mentally engaging with this community
Pretty sure the star says "well done!". Perhaps I need some new glasses
ur gonna need some new glasses when im done with you nerd
On August 15 2017 23:47 Executer08 wrote: really funny when people get mad over predictions like they are actual science. "omfg these writers dont know wtf theyre talking about, its almost like they want this to be at least a tiny bit interesting and not cookie cutter predictions" etc. also pretty sure SidianTheBard is just trolling, c0sm0naut might be as well (classics pvz has been pretty terrible for the last couple of months + z favored meta + 0-3 vs rogue last time they met, 0-4 vs soO & 1-2 1-2 vs dark).
i dont agree with all the predictions either, but they seem reasonable over all
Psh, my predictions are 100% accurate. I'll make sure to PM you after Ro16 linking back to my predictions again so you can bask in my awesomeness.
if you somehow fuckin call this voidray zealot thing i will paypal you $50 and change my username to whatever u want. username will be used for clan wars and viewed by real life friends so yo ucan really get terrible with it
On August 15 2017 23:47 Executer08 wrote: really funny when people get mad over predictions like they are actual science. "omfg these writers dont know wtf theyre talking about, its almost like they want this to be at least a tiny bit interesting and not cookie cutter predictions" etc. also pretty sure SidianTheBard is just trolling, c0sm0naut might be as well (classics pvz has been pretty terrible for the last couple of months + z favored meta + 0-3 vs rogue last time they met, 0-4 vs soO & 1-2 1-2 vs dark).
i dont agree with all the predictions either, but they seem reasonable over all
Psh, my predictions are 100% accurate. I'll make sure to PM you after Ro16 linking back to my predictions again so you can bask in my awesomeness.
if you somehow fuckin call this voidray zealot thing i will paypal you $50 and change my username to whatever u want. username will be used for clan wars and viewed by real life friends so yo ucan really get terrible with it
Man, that's some real shit. And all I was putting on the line with this article was an already trashed reputation.
On August 15 2017 23:47 Executer08 wrote: really funny when people get mad over predictions like they are actual science. "omfg these writers dont know wtf theyre talking about, its almost like they want this to be at least a tiny bit interesting and not cookie cutter predictions" etc. also pretty sure SidianTheBard is just trolling, c0sm0naut might be as well (classics pvz has been pretty terrible for the last couple of months + z favored meta + 0-3 vs rogue last time they met, 0-4 vs soO & 1-2 1-2 vs dark).
i dont agree with all the predictions either, but they seem reasonable over all
Psh, my predictions are 100% accurate. I'll make sure to PM you after Ro16 linking back to my predictions again so you can bask in my awesomeness.
if you somehow fuckin call this voidray zealot thing i will paypal you $50 and change my username to whatever u want. username will be used for clan wars and viewed by real life friends so yo ucan really get terrible with it
Man, that's some real shit. And all I was putting on the line with this article was an already trashed reputation.
Can't risk a good reputation if you don't have a good reputation!
On August 15 2017 23:47 Executer08 wrote: really funny when people get mad over predictions like they are actual science. "omfg these writers dont know wtf theyre talking about, its almost like they want this to be at least a tiny bit interesting and not cookie cutter predictions" etc. also pretty sure SidianTheBard is just trolling, c0sm0naut might be as well (classics pvz has been pretty terrible for the last couple of months + z favored meta + 0-3 vs rogue last time they met, 0-4 vs soO & 1-2 1-2 vs dark).
i dont agree with all the predictions either, but they seem reasonable over all
Psh, my predictions are 100% accurate. I'll make sure to PM you after Ro16 linking back to my predictions again so you can bask in my awesomeness.
if you somehow fuckin call this voidray zealot thing i will paypal you $50 and change my username to whatever u want. username will be used for clan wars and viewed by real life friends so yo ucan really get terrible with it
He did the whole chargelot / oracle on Odyssey before with the double gold...switch up the oracles to voids and EZPZ baby! =D
On August 16 2017 01:35 c0sm0naut wrote: lol ok kids I sure am "trolling" to believe that classic, code S regular has a chance at advancing in a group with the choke artist soo and rogue just because rogue won a thing recently?
starting off your post with "kids" because others who disagree with you surely have to be immature is already a pretty crappy start all of the guys in that group are code s regulars and you didnt just say that he has a chance at advancing. besides, soO only chokes in finals and rogue looked dominant at iem shanghai, won his ro32 group over the reigning champion in convincing fashion, has been ranked 1 KR GM for quite some time and is 64-20 in competitive matches and 28-3 in series (12-2 in zvp vs the likes of classic himself twice (5-1 in maps), zest, herO, stats etc.) while classic has struggled in the matchup for quite some time.
from time and time again, the TL writers and others may make gut calls on series or players and statistics might disagree with them. however, we do this only because we feel that statistics dont tell the whole tale, and its up to you as a community to not get butthurt about them, because thats literally all they are... predictions
yeah exactly, thats what i was talking about in my other post too. just in classics case, his reactions at the group selection already tell a huge part of the tale additionally to the statistics :D
you kids just buy into the caster hype which has redundantly praised innovation for being a top terran, stats for being a top protoss and dark for being a top zerg. they have unfairly treated other players like aLive and Gumi who have virtually the same level of accomplishments/consistency becuase for some reason artosis just cannot get off their dicks (sort of like you guys, how funny). the reality is that all of these players are incredibly skilled and really do push this game to the limits, being totally sure of a prediction is severely more foolish than being open minded to the possibility of a rare outcome
wow besides the last sentence that is some proper bullshit mate. again calling others kids and then getting ultra defensive and insulting is a very bad way to make your point. you seem to be misunderstanding what the casters are trying to say with that and if you actually listen, they praise gumiho for example a lot too (how could they not!?).
everyone shitting on the group a prediction like they wouldve expected solar to come out in first place kek. also inno one game away from being eliminated twice, "lol how could those scrubs think inno wouldnt make it out". lovely, glad about the outcome of that group though
On August 17 2017 06:14 Bayaz90 wrote: Lmao you can't make this stuff up.
Maybe Liquid salty they can't afford Innovation, can't think of another explanation.
"PATRIOTS WON'T MAKE PLAYOFFS!"
yeah, stupid writers. inno aced that group so har... oh wait he was one game away from getting eliminated. twice. love the ridiculous banter though guys, keep it up.
Well, typical TL prediction curse basically. Group A prediction is an absolute bust (what a surprise!). Now, I'm worried for herO. I was hoping they will pick ByuN and sOs. Then, herO may have a chance.
Eh. I think half their predictions are OK. Although it just seems foolish to put anyone more likely to move on than Inno from Group A. Which clearly was wrong. I was hoping for Inno/Gumi, but Gumiho has never really been consistently top-tier, while Solar has recently, particularly in online events.
As for B, to suggest Bunny>anyone else in B seems just as foolish... Except maybe SoS, and that's only because he's been in quite the slump.
I'd still say anyone that predicts Bunny or Hurricaine move on haven't been watching SC2.
Personally I think C is anyone's to take, and D is pretty obvious without an upset.
On August 18 2017 05:18 Lysergic1 wrote: Eh. I think half their predictions are OK. Although it just seems foolish to put anyone more likely to move on than Inno from Group A. Which clearly was wrong. I was hoping for Inno/Gumi, but Gumiho has never really been consistently top-tier, while Solar has recently, particularly in online events.
As for B, to suggest Bunny>anyone else in B seems just as foolish... Except maybe SoS, and that's only because he's been in quite the slump.
I'd still say anyone that predicts Bunny or Hurricaine move on haven't been watching SC2.
Personally I think C is anyone's to take, and D is pretty obvious without an upset.
To be fair, Bunny did have a really good performance at SSL challenge recently. I could see him beating sOs and upsetting ByuN if the latter's emotions get the best of him.
On August 18 2017 05:18 Lysergic1 wrote: Eh. I think half their predictions are OK. Although it just seems foolish to put anyone more likely to move on than Inno from Group A. Which clearly was wrong. I was hoping for Inno/Gumi, but Gumiho has never really been consistently top-tier, while Solar has recently, particularly in online events.
As for B, to suggest Bunny>anyone else in B seems just as foolish... Except maybe SoS, and that's only because he's been in quite the slump.
I'd still say anyone that predicts Bunny or Hurricaine move on haven't been watching SC2.
Personally I think C is anyone's to take, and D is pretty obvious without an upset.
To be fair, Bunny did have a really good performance at SSL challenge recently. I could see him beating sOs and upsetting ByuN if the latter's emotions get the best of him.
On August 24 2017 01:07 Mun_Su wrote: I'm disapointed Rogue made it, would'have been fun to have 0/6, but Classic was so bad... the TL curse broke SoO tough
Rogue is on fire, I don't mind seeing him go through and I really wanted Dark to advance.
As for soO, I say good riddance. His TvZ has been pathetically embarrassing as of late and I'm sick of him making it to the finals only to know the eventual outcome.
EPT
GuMiho and 
Solar has been fumbling lately and should be easy picking for 
herO has some of the best PvT in the world, with an 8-3 mark in matches since the beginning of July. He’ll make easy work of 
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all of the guys in that group are code s regulars and you didnt just say that he has a chance at advancing. besides, soO only chokes in finals and rogue looked dominant at iem shanghai, won his ro32 group over the reigning champion in convincing fashion, has been ranked 1 KR GM for quite some time and is 64-20 in competitive matches and 28-3 in series (12-2 in zvp vs the likes of classic himself twice (5-1 in maps), zest, herO, stats etc.) while classic has struggled in the matchup for quite some time. 
