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Topin
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Peru10102 Posts
July 04 2017 15:37 GMT
#21
really interesting to read about the korean scene from another perspective. Thanks!
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
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Last Edited: 2017-07-04 21:09:59
July 04 2017 21:04 GMT
#22
On July 04 2017 17:04 darhumewin wrote:
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On July 04 2017 05:50 pvsnp wrote:
It's great to hear things from the Korean perspective, and especially is such a detailed interview as this one. There's definitely a lot in common between Korean fans and foreign fans but their environment and perspective is radically different at the same time.

The language and proximity barrier seems to be the largest distinction-- it's much easier to deify or demonize people living on the other side of the world. I imagine seeing players in person and not exclusively through the lens of Starcraft must go a long way towards humanizing even the most aloof progamers. Culture seems another big one, for instance with the gift-giving. I guess the foreign analogue would be donations?

And of course there is the elephant in the room, matchfixing and Life. It is extremely gratifying to hear the Korean sentiment of universal condemnation towards Life reaffirmed in this interview. It's hardly a secret and has been expressed before, of course, but certain members of the foreign community simply refuse to allow the specter of Life fade into history. They seem to conveniently forget or ignore the fact that the progamer known as Life is actually 이승현, a Korean man who played for a Korean team in a Korean progaming environment. Applying anything other than Korean morality, expressed via Korean judgement and Korean justice to his crime (and yes, it is a crime in Korea) is completely and utterly insane. Justice has been served and Life is gone. Fin.


On a lighter note, did I just read that INnoVation, the Machine himself, emotionless juggernaut of death and destruction, is actually quite funny?

.....I guess he finally got around to implementing a humor subroutine?


Oh and of course a big thank you to mizenhauer and everyone else involved in conducting/translating the interview.

Matchmaking is bad. But there is no objective argument that can be proposed that proves that Life's punishment of a life-time ban is justified or the best for the Starcraft II scene. Hell, although it was bad publicity, it may have been the greatest publicity this game has received on a mainstream level. And Life was a one of a kind player in terms of bringing high level, entertaining play that actually worked. This reminds me of that time when some Team Liquid affiliates proposed a pseudo-science paper that attempted to objectively assert how their econ model for the game is a great idea.

There is a lot of stupidity going on.
Are the sponsors stupid for believing that by supporting an e-sport with one of its best players caught as a match fixer, it will be detrimental to their image? Are the sponsors correct in believing that the public is dumb enough to think that many people in the Starcraft II e-sports scene is filled with criminals? And that many, many games are fixed? Does the majority of the public actually believe isolated incidents reflect the entire community? Or is Starcraft II just inferior as a spectator e-sports, and it was bound to never establish dominance in the e-sports scene, regardless of the actions of Life? It’s not clear who the idiots are… But I know one thing. None of y’all know the truth and many people are just asserting shit based on what they want to believe.

I want to believe that Life’s life time ban is too harsh. I miss Life.




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Thank you, your post has made my point perfectly. "Certain members of the foreign community" indeed.

I'm sure the Korean judges who passed sentence on Life would welcome your valuable input.
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yagrebinho
Profile Joined July 2017
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July 05 2017 08:24 GMT
#23
Great, thanks for sharing
YamiRi
Profile Joined September 2015
152 Posts
July 05 2017 14:31 GMT
#24
wow great interview

now I hope people will stop bring out matchmaking stuffs because it is clearly hurt the scene

and I laughed when I read that Nerchio is famous because of his twitter
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