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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
On June 23 2017 02:10 Locutos wrote: Neeb was on a slump back then... His current skill level is much higher Ye maybe he can barely wins against Jjakji now, which is ro32 player. | ||
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Locutos
Brazil271 Posts
On June 23 2017 18:32 fishjie wrote: lol this is why the region locking is so stupid. you are blowing things way out of perspective because there isn't a korean to stomp foreign hopes back to reality. neeb is legit as he did win a korean tourney in the past, but he is not that good. him winning a non korean region locked tourney is good, but it doesn't put him in the top 10. competing in the gsl and advancing to the finals puts you in the top 10. He will do it | ||
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Fango
United Kingdom8987 Posts
Neeb trades maps evenly with Major (every series they've played this year has gone to final map), and tends to lose to Scarlett (he's 7-12 against her in 2017). Serral has only played Scarlett and Major once this year so it's hard to compare. But he beat Scarlett 2-0 which is good, however Major was running circles around him on every map in their series. On June 22 2017 22:38 Locutos wrote: Its not about the result, its about the skill level You can't compare skill level based of an isolated tournament like that. Any two players that are evenly matched can show games that are interesting and appear "high level". For example, if there were no Koreans at Katowice we could have ended up with a Serral-Neeb finals back then, and everyone would have been saying they're top 10 because of it. | ||
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DieuCure
France3713 Posts
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pvsnp
7676 Posts
On June 23 2017 21:20 Fango wrote: I'm sorry but there's no way to justify Neeb and Serral being top 10. Compare them to the foreigners that compete in Korea. Remeber Scarlett and Major both failed to get past GSL ro32. Neeb trades maps evenly with Major (every series they've played this year has gone to final map), and tends to lose to Scarlett (he's 7-12 against her in 2017). Serral has only played Scarlett and Major once this year so it's hard to compare. But he beat Scarlett 2-0 which is good, however Major was running circles around him on every map in their series. You can't compare skill level based of an isolated tournament like that. Any two players that are evenly matched can show games that are interesting and appear "high level". For example, if there were no Koreans at Katowice we could have ended up with a Serral-Neeb finals back then, and everyone would have been saying they're top 10 because of it. Yeah, basically this exactly. WCS Circuit tourneys lack the frame of reference for anyone to make sweeping assertions like "Serral and Neeb are now top 10 no doubt." Even if a statement like that were true (pretty damn unlikely, btw) Jonkoping is a shitty way to justify it, because there weren't any top Koreans there. If (and only if) Neeb beats TY/INnoVation in a Bo5 (instead of MajOr) or Dark/soO in a Bo7 (instead of Serral) then we can start talking about how he is equal to top-tier Koreans. Until then all this is just baseless speculation. | ||
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