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Nerchio and MaNa fly the flag as Korea progresses on Day 2…

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 10:55:15
March 01 2017 10:51 GMT
#21
On March 01 2017 19:46 Clevername02 wrote:
Obviously we all expect Neeb to beat Harstem, and honestly anyone who isn't extremely Korean biased to an absurd level would favor Neeb over Stats because of his insane PvP.

Neeb vs Stats is maybe 50-50. Stats is commonly seen as the best PvP player in Korea and won their last match against each other in Shoutcraft.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 01 2017 11:02 GMT
#22
On March 01 2017 19:37 Binomyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 18:48 fezvez wrote:
On March 01 2017 17:18 CUTtheCBC wrote:
funny reading the comments desperately dreaming of a foreigner beating a korean


But it has already happened in the bracket?

I can bet with you that at least one foreigner will be ranked above one korean in one of the pools. It's not really a "dream"


It's not funny for me. If foreigners can beat a random korean in the qualifiers, they will never win an event this year, never ever.
The shortening of the korean scene and the end of region lock lead to this situation with 15 Koreans and 9 foreigners qualified for the main event.
Even for the top foreigners like Showtime and Nerchio, the best result will be to qualified to stage 2.

This new format will make foreigners earn less money in tournaments and gaining less apparence for sponsors.
Only top foreigners will survive and it has already happened, lots of foreigners have already leaved SC2.

But people whining about the region lock on TL has what they wanted, a SSL bis.

Anyway, I'll try to enjoy this games before the whole scene collapse...

What end of the region lock? This is the only open global event of the year. All the WCS Circuit events/Dreamhacks will be region locked. You will only see TRUE and Violet there.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
March 01 2017 11:06 GMT
#23
On March 01 2017 20:02 Musicus wrote:
All the WCS Circuit events/Dreamhacks will be region locked.

All 4 of them
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Binomyo
Profile Joined May 2014
France61 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 11:15:30
March 01 2017 11:08 GMT
#24
On March 01 2017 20:02 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 19:37 Binomyo wrote:
On March 01 2017 18:48 fezvez wrote:
On March 01 2017 17:18 CUTtheCBC wrote:
funny reading the comments desperately dreaming of a foreigner beating a korean


But it has already happened in the bracket?

I can bet with you that at least one foreigner will be ranked above one korean in one of the pools. It's not really a "dream"


It's not funny for me. If foreigners can beat a random korean in the qualifiers, they will never win an event this year, never ever.
The shortening of the korean scene and the end of region lock lead to this situation with 15 Koreans and 9 foreigners qualified for the main event.
Even for the top foreigners like Showtime and Nerchio, the best result will be to qualified to stage 2.

This new format will make foreigners earn less money in tournaments and gaining less apparence for sponsors.
Only top foreigners will survive and it has already happened, lots of foreigners have already leaved SC2.

But people whining about the region lock on TL has what they wanted, a SSL bis.

Anyway, I'll try to enjoy this games before the whole scene collapse...

What end of the region lock? This is the only open global event of the year. All the WCS Circuit events/Dreamhacks will be region locked. You will only see TRUE and Violet there.


WHAT ? My mistake then. I'm very surprised. I really thought it was the end of region lock....

So if I understand correctly, the WCS points you win in this event are like bonus points for your region WCS standing ?
IArako
Profile Joined June 2015
Germany195 Posts
March 01 2017 11:14 GMT
#25
Predictions:
Byun herO Ryung
TY Stats Jjakji
Zest Nerchio Serral
InnoVation Showtime Dark

Neeb and uThermal got chances too and i hope Heromarine is showing some good plays but as much as i want it i cant see him advancing
Special Tactics
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 01 2017 11:16 GMT
#26
On March 01 2017 20:08 Binomyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 20:02 Musicus wrote:
On March 01 2017 19:37 Binomyo wrote:
On March 01 2017 18:48 fezvez wrote:
On March 01 2017 17:18 CUTtheCBC wrote:
funny reading the comments desperately dreaming of a foreigner beating a korean


But it has already happened in the bracket?

I can bet with you that at least one foreigner will be ranked above one korean in one of the pools. It's not really a "dream"


It's not funny for me. If foreigners can beat a random korean in the qualifiers, they will never win an event this year, never ever.
The shortening of the korean scene and the end of region lock lead to this situation with 15 Koreans and 9 foreigners qualified for the main event.
Even for the top foreigners like Showtime and Nerchio, the best result will be to qualified to stage 2.

This new format will make foreigners earn less money in tournaments and gaining less apparence for sponsors.
Only top foreigners will survive and it has already happened, lots of foreigners have already leaved SC2.

But people whining about the region lock on TL has what they wanted, a SSL bis.

Anyway, I'll try to enjoy this games before the whole scene collapse...

What end of the region lock? This is the only open global event of the year. All the WCS Circuit events/Dreamhacks will be region locked. You will only see TRUE and Violet there.


WHAT ? My mistake then. I'm very surprised. I really thought it was the end of region lock....

So if I understand correctly, the WCS points you win in this event are like bonus points for your region WCS standing ?

Pretty much, you earn points for your region. WCS Circuit contenders will earn WCS Circuit points and WCS Korea contenders will earn WCS Korea points.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55510 Posts
March 01 2017 11:19 GMT
#27
On March 01 2017 20:16 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 20:08 Binomyo wrote:
On March 01 2017 20:02 Musicus wrote:
On March 01 2017 19:37 Binomyo wrote:
On March 01 2017 18:48 fezvez wrote:
On March 01 2017 17:18 CUTtheCBC wrote:
funny reading the comments desperately dreaming of a foreigner beating a korean


But it has already happened in the bracket?

I can bet with you that at least one foreigner will be ranked above one korean in one of the pools. It's not really a "dream"


It's not funny for me. If foreigners can beat a random korean in the qualifiers, they will never win an event this year, never ever.
The shortening of the korean scene and the end of region lock lead to this situation with 15 Koreans and 9 foreigners qualified for the main event.
Even for the top foreigners like Showtime and Nerchio, the best result will be to qualified to stage 2.

This new format will make foreigners earn less money in tournaments and gaining less apparence for sponsors.
Only top foreigners will survive and it has already happened, lots of foreigners have already leaved SC2.

But people whining about the region lock on TL has what they wanted, a SSL bis.

Anyway, I'll try to enjoy this games before the whole scene collapse...

What end of the region lock? This is the only open global event of the year. All the WCS Circuit events/Dreamhacks will be region locked. You will only see TRUE and Violet there.


WHAT ? My mistake then. I'm very surprised. I really thought it was the end of region lock....

So if I understand correctly, the WCS points you win in this event are like bonus points for your region WCS standing ?

Pretty much, you earn points for your region. WCS Circuit contenders will earn WCS Circuit points and WCS Korea contenders will earn WCS Korea points.

And if you win this tournament you're qualified for Blizzcon.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 01 2017 11:25 GMT
#28
On March 01 2017 20:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 20:16 Musicus wrote:
On March 01 2017 20:08 Binomyo wrote:
On March 01 2017 20:02 Musicus wrote:
On March 01 2017 19:37 Binomyo wrote:
On March 01 2017 18:48 fezvez wrote:
On March 01 2017 17:18 CUTtheCBC wrote:
funny reading the comments desperately dreaming of a foreigner beating a korean


But it has already happened in the bracket?

I can bet with you that at least one foreigner will be ranked above one korean in one of the pools. It's not really a "dream"


It's not funny for me. If foreigners can beat a random korean in the qualifiers, they will never win an event this year, never ever.
The shortening of the korean scene and the end of region lock lead to this situation with 15 Koreans and 9 foreigners qualified for the main event.
Even for the top foreigners like Showtime and Nerchio, the best result will be to qualified to stage 2.

This new format will make foreigners earn less money in tournaments and gaining less apparence for sponsors.
Only top foreigners will survive and it has already happened, lots of foreigners have already leaved SC2.

But people whining about the region lock on TL has what they wanted, a SSL bis.

Anyway, I'll try to enjoy this games before the whole scene collapse...

What end of the region lock? This is the only open global event of the year. All the WCS Circuit events/Dreamhacks will be region locked. You will only see TRUE and Violet there.


WHAT ? My mistake then. I'm very surprised. I really thought it was the end of region lock....

So if I understand correctly, the WCS points you win in this event are like bonus points for your region WCS standing ?

Pretty much, you earn points for your region. WCS Circuit contenders will earn WCS Circuit points and WCS Korea contenders will earn WCS Korea points.

And if you win this tournament you're qualified for Blizzcon.

Oh yeah, worth mentioning.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
breaker1328
Profile Joined March 2016
Canada295 Posts
March 01 2017 11:39 GMT
#29
On March 01 2017 08:01 aRyuujin wrote:
how the hell is korea so stacked in a small area


Think of it this way. Why are so many great bands over time from England?

A whole crap load of people in a very small geographic area.

The cream rises to the top in that situation.
PipusSc2
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
Andorra5 Posts
March 01 2017 13:45 GMT
#30
C'mon nerchio
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
March 01 2017 14:48 GMT
#31
On March 01 2017 19:51 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2017 19:46 Clevername02 wrote:
Obviously we all expect Neeb to beat Harstem, and honestly anyone who isn't extremely Korean biased to an absurd level would favor Neeb over Stats because of his insane PvP.

Neeb vs Stats is maybe 50-50. Stats is commonly seen as the best PvP player in Korea and won their last match against each other in Shoutcraft.

That's an online game, and as we all know, online games mean absolutely nothing. Just kidding, but still, an online bo1 is worth even less than an online bo3, and Neeb beat Stats offline in a bo5.

Stats may be the best PvPer in Korea, but Neeb is arguably the best foreign PvPer, and he is probably one of the best PvPers in Korea as well.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
HooHooH
Profile Joined January 2015
165 Posts
March 01 2017 16:14 GMT
#32
Group D looks a blast!

B should also be very entertaining
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 23:11:00
March 01 2017 23:06 GMT
#33
Everything has changed a whole lot since last Kespa cup. Neeb beat Stats in Kespa cup doesn't mean he can beat Stats now, considering Stats's form recently.

There is a common sense in foreigner Starcraft: whenever a foreigner beats a Korean (in ab bo3 or bo5) , everyone starts to think that player in GSL level and overhype him. Even months later ppl still believe that, then that player got rekt by the Korean, and the overhyping comes to an end quickly. Lets see how long "Neeb's PvP god" will last.
muppet70
Profile Joined January 2017
Sweden72 Posts
March 01 2017 23:12 GMT
#34
There was I think TLO who complained about the lack of major tournaments for foreigners, and how important the few are.
Does that mean the online cups are basically pocket money?
Is it also a matter of appearing in front of a live audience regarding sponsors?
usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-01 23:54:09
March 01 2017 23:17 GMT
#35
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
March 01 2017 23:38 GMT
#36
On March 02 2017 08:06 ParksonVN wrote:
Everything has changed a whole lot since last Kespa cup. Neeb beat Stats in Kespa cup doesn't mean he can beat Stats now, considering Stats's form recently.

There is a common sense in foreigner Starcraft: whenever a foreigner beats a Korean (in ab bo3 or bo5) , everyone starts to think that player in GSL level and overhype him. Even months later ppl still believe that, then that player got rekt by the Korean, and the overhyping comes to an end quickly. Lets see how long "Neeb's PvP god" will last.



The thing is, he got that nickname not just from beating Koreans, but by beating nearly everyone. Since the release of LotV, Neeb has an 77% map winrate, and he's had very solid PvP results vs both Koreans and non-Koreans.

And it's not that a player wins one series, and people think he's GSL quality but that he wins multiple series against GSL-level opponents, which, in this case, Neeb did.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
JimmyShmo
Profile Joined March 2017
3 Posts
March 02 2017 00:01 GMT
#37
when do the actual matchups for these groups get released?
JimmyShmo
Profile Joined March 2017
3 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 00:02:33
March 02 2017 00:02 GMT
#38
On March 02 2017 09:01 JimmyShmo wrote:
when do the actual matchups for these groups get released?

FrostbitethundeR
Profile Joined April 2015
Malaysia28 Posts
March 02 2017 16:45 GMT
#39
The number of Zergs that qualified for the group stage is worrying .. feel so helpless as Zerg at the moment. Please make some reasonable changes to help the Zerg race holistically.

Love,
SC2 fanboy <3
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