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pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
February 22 2017 04:20 GMT
#21
Great preview!
Think soO's was especially nice, though INnoVation as the greatest seems a little premature. If he wins Katowice and GSL, then his claim on the throne will be incontestable, but not yet I think.

Please soO, the weight of all Zerg falls on your shoulders. Nothing against TY, but I hope he falls and falls hard.
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
February 22 2017 05:01 GMT
#22
EEEEEEEEEEk HYPU~~~What a treat it has been to watch both Winnovation and Stats stream this last week...Whilst they have only played each other a few times (my count was 3-1 in favor of Inno) the games were super close! Shizzz is real boys! get ya beers, get ya popcorn, get ya widescreen ready, roll up a little cheeky number, get ya special lady or man friend prepped TVZ and PVT EPIC ACTION coming ur way in bout 4 hours..ARRGHHHHHH (rips shirt off Hulk Hogan style whilst dancing the Macho Man Randy Savage Jig!)

PS MY GOD I hope Stats shows up and dismantles INnovation the wayhe did to Byun! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK...

The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 22 2017 06:34 GMT
#23
On February 22 2017 14:01 AxiomBlurr wrote:
EEEEEEEEEEk HYPU~~~What a treat it has been to watch both Winnovation and Stats stream this last week...Whilst they have only played each other a few times (my count was 3-1 in favor of Inno) the games were super close! Shizzz is real boys! get ya beers, get ya popcorn, get ya widescreen ready, roll up a little cheeky number, get ya special lady or man friend prepped TVZ and PVT EPIC ACTION coming ur way in bout 4 hours..ARRGHHHHHH (rips shirt off Hulk Hogan style whilst dancing the Macho Man Randy Savage Jig!)

PS MY GOD I hope Stats shows up and dismantles INnovation the wayhe did to Byun! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK...


Ladder is one thing, tournament play is another beast though
While i am a KT guy (only sporting JinAir now because KT is gone, rip) i actually kinda want Innovation to win. He is far from my favorite player (i am not even a fan) but i would love it if a guy dominates the scene a bit. Also Innovation is the closest to becoming the GOAT out of anybody still playing (maybe Zest) and this Mvp circlejerk is getting on my nerves
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AxiomBlurr
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
786 Posts
February 22 2017 07:29 GMT
#24
On February 22 2017 15:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On February 22 2017 14:01 AxiomBlurr wrote:
EEEEEEEEEEk HYPU~~~What a treat it has been to watch both Winnovation and Stats stream this last week...Whilst they have only played each other a few times (my count was 3-1 in favor of Inno) the games were super close! Shizzz is real boys! get ya beers, get ya popcorn, get ya widescreen ready, roll up a little cheeky number, get ya special lady or man friend prepped TVZ and PVT EPIC ACTION coming ur way in bout 4 hours..ARRGHHHHHH (rips shirt off Hulk Hogan style whilst dancing the Macho Man Randy Savage Jig!)

PS MY GOD I hope Stats shows up and dismantles INnovation the wayhe did to Byun! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK...


Ladder is one thing, tournament play is another beast though
While i am a KT guy (only sporting JinAir now because KT is gone, rip) i actually kinda want Innovation to win. He is far from my favorite player (i am not even a fan) but i would love it if a guy dominates the scene a bit. Also Innovation is the closest to becoming the GOAT out of anybody still playing (maybe Zest) and this Mvp circlejerk is getting on my nerves


Yeah I know what you mean - - I totally thought Dark was untouchable for a while there, but even he slipped off. Mvp ruled a different age, Zest has really failed to show up this season (losing to Keen for example), but Inno is still consistent as ever. I got my beer ready!!!!
theODIN
Profile Joined February 2017
1 Post
February 22 2017 07:40 GMT
#25
hyped for TY tonight! I think his wide use of the 3 RAX will be tricky for soo to deal with.
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
February 22 2017 07:53 GMT
#26
On February 22 2017 16:40 theODIN wrote:
hyped for TY tonight! I think his wide use of the 3 RAX will be tricky for soo to deal with.


Not with the current map pool
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DBooN
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2727 Posts
February 22 2017 08:26 GMT
#27
let's go soO!
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
February 22 2017 08:56 GMT
#28
Owww, you're still giving soO for the defeat.
Is that a way to help him get through using TL curse maybe? :D
Mizenhauer
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
United States1906 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 11:26:44
February 22 2017 09:31 GMT
#29
On February 22 2017 17:56 AbouSV wrote:
Owww, you're still giving soO for the defeat.
Is that a way to help him get through using TL curse maybe? :D


I picked him on liquibet
EDIT: And profited
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Sound1
Profile Joined August 2016
France93 Posts
February 22 2017 10:18 GMT
#30
WTH ! Please can someone tell me why TY didn't climb to the main with his cheese in game 2 ? :O

The old school marines bunker rush is probably one of the most deadly terran cheese. You have no choice but kill the Z and he decided to rally his marines to his base after destroyed Soo s B2 ...still to don't understand his move.

Fortunatly, he won this one.
Go go TY !!
Startale Sound Fan boy Forever !
Fej
Profile Joined July 2011
Hungary26 Posts
February 22 2017 12:30 GMT
#31
soOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!44444444444444
IAmWithStupid
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Russian Federation1016 Posts
February 22 2017 12:35 GMT
#32
dat predictions though!
Insert wise words here
corydoras
Profile Joined November 2013
161 Posts
February 22 2017 12:43 GMT
#33
Okay, there goes my streak in liquibets. Two comeback was something I wouldn't predict anyway.
Adun toridas!
DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
February 22 2017 12:46 GMT
#34
You cant compete as terran, i knew it since leenock ( worst zerg ) won against Cure ( bonjwa )

User was warned for this post
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verecunda
Profile Joined July 2015
Korea (South)121 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 14:02:10
February 22 2017 13:53 GMT
#35
Honestly I didn't expect either soO or Stats to make it, but I have never been happier to lose liquibet points. Gratz soO and Stats!

Great preview by the way, the insight on soO's qualities seems particularly relevant today.
Vutalisk
Profile Joined August 2016
United States680 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 14:06:34
February 22 2017 14:05 GMT
#36
soO got some nerves on him, man. Last group, 0:2 to Inno, beat Dark 2:0, down 0:1 to Classic and came back 2:1. Today, down to 0:2 to TY which was just terrible given how strong TY was and then AGAIN for the second times, came back 3:2.

It shows that skills and matchup sometimes are irrelevant if the mentality is soO strong . TY looked pretty tilted after soO evened the score at 2:2.
Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10101 Posts
February 22 2017 15:10 GMT
#37
wtf happened... i am speechless
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
February 22 2017 15:11 GMT
#38
On February 22 2017 21:43 corydoras wrote:
Okay, there goes my streak in liquibets. Two comeback was something I wouldn't predict anyway.


Can confirm. T_T
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Snarosc
Profile Joined January 2016
France66 Posts
February 22 2017 15:18 GMT
#39
Haha, both my liquibets went right today, no TvT finals incoming, and soOjwa's first GSL title looks more possible now than ever.

Today is a great day.
Stats is the best player of LotV.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5206 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 15:26:25
February 22 2017 15:24 GMT
#40
It's nice to see Stats, Bogus, Baby and soO doing well for themselves
FBH #1!
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