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Trizztein1
Profile Joined April 2015
28 Posts
January 23 2017 17:41 GMT
#61
Nice confidence coming from Scarlett.

About that imba liberator spot on habitation station, I couldn't see if liberator had range or not from my cellphone? Anyone?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
January 23 2017 17:46 GMT
#62
On January 24 2017 02:41 Trizztein1 wrote:
Nice confidence coming from Scarlett.

About that imba liberator spot on habitation station, I couldn't see if liberator had range or not from my cellphone? Anyone?


Doesn't have range. With range you can't hit it at all with ground units.
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DieuCure
Profile Joined January 2017
France3713 Posts
January 23 2017 17:54 GMT
#63
On January 24 2017 02:41 Trizztein1 wrote:
Nice confidence coming from Scarlett.

About that imba liberator spot on habitation station, I couldn't see if liberator had range or not from my cellphone? Anyone?


She will lose 2-0 against myungsik and calm down
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brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
January 23 2017 19:13 GMT
#64
people really react differently when foreigners are confident. when koreans are confident and talk smack it's all "hype! a literal god, go crush them!" but if it's scarlett everyone's first thought is to deconstruct her logic and shoot her down as if a progamer of 5+ years doesn't know things about progaming lol
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
January 23 2017 19:55 GMT
#65
On January 24 2017 04:13 brickrd wrote:
people really react differently when foreigners are confident. when koreans are confident and talk smack it's all "hype! a literal god, go crush them!" but if it's scarlett everyone's first thought is to deconstruct her logic and shoot her down as if a progamer of 5+ years doesn't know things about progaming lol

Well there is the fact that Koreans dominated sc2 from the start.
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
January 23 2017 22:01 GMT
#66
On January 24 2017 04:13 brickrd wrote:
people really react differently when foreigners are confident. when koreans are confident and talk smack it's all "hype! a literal god, go crush them!" but if it's scarlett everyone's first thought is to deconstruct her logic and shoot her down as if a progamer of 5+ years doesn't know things about progaming lol


Really? I feel like it's just people always being harsh when someone says in an interview something that contradicts facts, statistics and recent tournament results. And I think it's a little justified as long as it's kept civil. Are you sure it's not just your selection bias making you think it's a Korean vs foreigner thing? ^^
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 23 2017 22:11 GMT
#67
On January 24 2017 07:01 207aicila wrote:
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On January 24 2017 04:13 brickrd wrote:
people really react differently when foreigners are confident. when koreans are confident and talk smack it's all "hype! a literal god, go crush them!" but if it's scarlett everyone's first thought is to deconstruct her logic and shoot her down as if a progamer of 5+ years doesn't know things about progaming lol


Really? I feel like it's just people always being harsh when someone says in an interview something that contradicts facts, statistics and recent tournament results. And I think it's a little justified as long as it's kept civil. Are you sure it's not just your selection bias making you think it's a Korean vs foreigner thing? ^^

I'm not sure how her saying she's confident goes against any of that. Statistically she's one of the best foreigners vs Koreans there is.
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207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
January 23 2017 22:27 GMT
#68
On January 24 2017 07:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
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On January 24 2017 07:01 207aicila wrote:
On January 24 2017 04:13 brickrd wrote:
people really react differently when foreigners are confident. when koreans are confident and talk smack it's all "hype! a literal god, go crush them!" but if it's scarlett everyone's first thought is to deconstruct her logic and shoot her down as if a progamer of 5+ years doesn't know things about progaming lol


Really? I feel like it's just people always being harsh when someone says in an interview something that contradicts facts, statistics and recent tournament results. And I think it's a little justified as long as it's kept civil. Are you sure it's not just your selection bias making you think it's a Korean vs foreigner thing? ^^

I'm not sure how her saying she's confident goes against any of that. Statistically she's one of the best foreigners vs Koreans there is.


Conveniently glossing over the "recent tournament results" part I see. Ah well, what can ya do.
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 23 2017 22:39 GMT
#69
On January 24 2017 07:27 207aicila wrote:
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On January 24 2017 07:11 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 24 2017 07:01 207aicila wrote:
On January 24 2017 04:13 brickrd wrote:
people really react differently when foreigners are confident. when koreans are confident and talk smack it's all "hype! a literal god, go crush them!" but if it's scarlett everyone's first thought is to deconstruct her logic and shoot her down as if a progamer of 5+ years doesn't know things about progaming lol


Really? I feel like it's just people always being harsh when someone says in an interview something that contradicts facts, statistics and recent tournament results. And I think it's a little justified as long as it's kept civil. Are you sure it's not just your selection bias making you think it's a Korean vs foreigner thing? ^^

I'm not sure how her saying she's confident goes against any of that. Statistically she's one of the best foreigners vs Koreans there is.


Conveniently glossing over the "recent tournament results" part I see. Ah well, what can ya do.

Besides the series vs Maru, she's playing fairly well. Wins vs a some good Koreans in 2017 and the series she has dropped have been to top foreigners like Neeb and Snute. Nothing of that says she can't be confident.
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usopsama
Profile Joined April 2008
6502 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 01:14:34
January 23 2017 23:06 GMT
#70
pvsnp
Profile Joined January 2017
7676 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 00:17:18
January 24 2017 00:11 GMT
#71
I'm not sure how her saying she's confident goes against any of that. Statistically she's one of the best foreigners vs Koreans there is.


Statistically, Byun and Innovation are at 69% and 76% TvZ, respectively. Scarlett's ZvT is at 56%.
^All since the latest patch.

"Best foreigner" doesn't change those statistics. It just means she isn't getting completely roflstomped, relatively speaking.
I dunno about you, but if I were Scarlett, I would not be "confident" with those numbers.


EDIT: To be fair, mentality is super important and I can totally understand if Scarlett is trying to avoid going into the match believing she will lose. Obviously that would only hurt her own performance.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 24 2017 00:15 GMT
#72
Some of you guys are really pedantic. When scarlett says she wins most games in practice and thus is confident then you either believe her or assume that she is lying to look better?!
If we trust her (which seems reasonable in this case) there really is no reason to deny her that confidence she speaks of
Yes tournament games are what matters but practice games build your skill and confidence.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 24 2017 00:34 GMT
#73
Flash was 67-3 in TvP in practice. Didn't help him sadly.
SKNielsen1989
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
174 Posts
January 24 2017 00:39 GMT
#74
Carriers confirmed broken

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SKNielsen1989
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
174 Posts
January 24 2017 00:40 GMT
#75
On January 24 2017 09:34 Phredxor wrote:
Flash was 67-3 in TvP in practice. Didn't help him sadly.

Context? I cannot remember what you're referring to.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 24 2017 00:46 GMT
#76
On January 24 2017 09:40 SKNielsen1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 09:34 Phredxor wrote:
Flash was 67-3 in TvP in practice. Didn't help him sadly.

Context? I cannot remember what you're referring to.

Something entirely irrelevant for this case
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 24 2017 00:52 GMT
#77
On January 24 2017 09:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 09:40 SKNielsen1989 wrote:
On January 24 2017 09:34 Phredxor wrote:
Flash was 67-3 in TvP in practice. Didn't help him sadly.

Context? I cannot remember what you're referring to.

Something entirely irrelevant for this case


Yup. All I'm saying is doing great in practice doesn't translate to results.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 24 2017 00:59 GMT
#78
On January 24 2017 09:52 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 09:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 24 2017 09:40 SKNielsen1989 wrote:
On January 24 2017 09:34 Phredxor wrote:
Flash was 67-3 in TvP in practice. Didn't help him sadly.

Context? I cannot remember what you're referring to.

Something entirely irrelevant for this case


Yup. All I'm saying is doing great in practice doesn't translate to results.

Yeah i agree with that. But doing well in practice against two S class terran players surely is a good sign. You still have to translate that into games that acually matter though, no doubt about that.
I just think it's incredibly stupid to argue if she has the right to be confident, it's absurd tbh, ofc good practice results create confidence -.-
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 24 2017 01:07 GMT
#79
On January 24 2017 09:59 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 09:52 Phredxor wrote:
On January 24 2017 09:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On January 24 2017 09:40 SKNielsen1989 wrote:
On January 24 2017 09:34 Phredxor wrote:
Flash was 67-3 in TvP in practice. Didn't help him sadly.

Context? I cannot remember what you're referring to.

Something entirely irrelevant for this case


Yup. All I'm saying is doing great in practice doesn't translate to results.

Yeah i agree with that. But doing well in practice against two S class terran players surely is a good sign. You still have to translate that into games that acually matter though, no doubt about that.
I just think it's incredibly stupid to argue if she has the right to be confident, it's absurd tbh, ofc good practice results create confidence -.-


Agreed. Would be weird if a professional wasn't confident. May as well not bother in that case.
SKNielsen1989
Profile Blog Joined January 2017
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 01:24:52
January 24 2017 01:17 GMT
#80
On January 24 2017 09:46 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2017 09:40 SKNielsen1989 wrote:
On January 24 2017 09:34 Phredxor wrote:
Flash was 67-3 in TvP in practice. Didn't help him sadly.

Context? I cannot remember what you're referring to.

Something entirely irrelevant for this case

Something entirely relevant to the satisfaction of my curiosity, though.
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