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IEM Katowice 2017 $250,000 Tournament Info - Page 3

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CryovaK
Profile Joined May 2016
4 Posts
January 14 2017 02:16 GMT
#41
Looks like I picked a great first SC2 event to attend, cant wait!
Tesarul
Profile Joined February 2014
Belgium79 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 03:35:18
January 14 2017 03:25 GMT
#42
For those who asked for a picture of the format, behold my amazing Paint skills:

[image loading]
BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
January 14 2017 09:39 GMT
#43
On January 14 2017 12:25 Tesarul wrote:
For those who asked for a picture of the format, behold my amazing Paint skills:

[image loading]


Awesome!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2105 Posts
January 14 2017 09:41 GMT
#44
I'm so glad more and more tournaments are opting for round robin groups with promotions and relegations. A much needed break from double-elim groupstages.
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
January 14 2017 10:29 GMT
#45
Super cool announcement. I really want to go.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
HsDLTitich
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Italy830 Posts
January 14 2017 11:42 GMT
#46
On January 14 2017 09:52 He11ra1s3r wrote:
how they will choose those 64 players ?


It's an open bracket, you just signup.
I used to organize tournaments for ESL Italy and referee Go4SC2s, WCSs, and IEMs for ESL SC2.
lechatnoir
Profile Joined November 2016
383 Posts
January 14 2017 14:30 GMT
#47
We are on page 3 and no one has complained why they didn't do this last year - good job. :D

So excited!
Crocolisk Dundee
Profile Blog Joined October 2015
870 Posts
January 14 2017 16:00 GMT
#48
On January 14 2017 12:25 Tesarul wrote:
For those who asked for a picture of the format, behold my amazing Paint skills:

[image loading]


That is very useful. Thank you!
Stopped watching ESL content in 2022 when the company was acquired by Savvy Gaming Group. Also object to sponsorships by the U.S. Air Force. Thanks for the lively discussions about sportswashing. StarCraft II is not for me anymore.
Thax
Profile Joined July 2014
Belgium1060 Posts
January 14 2017 16:08 GMT
#49
I really like this format. No problems with "bracket luck", playing poorly for one match doesn't mean you're out, but consistency is still rewarded.
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3415 Posts
January 14 2017 16:57 GMT
#50
Great format
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
January 14 2017 17:10 GMT
#51
On January 14 2017 20:42 HsDLTitich wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2017 09:52 He11ra1s3r wrote:
how they will choose those 64 players ?


It's an open bracket, you just signup.


Bracket stage sign-up will be available for 64 intrepid players at the conclusion of all online qualifiers. Due to the limited number of spots, preference will be given to players based on region, 2016 WCS performance, and in-game ladder performance.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-14 19:11:44
January 14 2017 19:11 GMT
#52
I asked Carmac how they would handle tie breakers in the round robin phase and if head 2 head or map score comes first . Definitely interesting for the competing players at the very least .

Use “total bo3-wins” -> “map score (6 : 3 > 6 : 4 > 5 : 3 etc)” -> “direct bo3-wins among tied” -> “direct map score among tied” -> “one round of decider matches bo1 or 3” -> “coin toss”


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/5nrsq7/iem_announces_76player_tournament_with_250000/dcf29ll/

They will use map score first, if two players have the same match score.

So for example Showtime would be first over TY at IEM if they had the same results as at WESG.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
January 14 2017 19:19 GMT
#53
On January 15 2017 04:11 Musicus wrote:
I asked Carmac how they would handle tie breakers in the round robin phase and if head 2 head or map score comes first . Definitely interesting for the competing players at the very least .

Show nested quote +
Use “total bo3-wins” -> “map score (6 : 3 > 6 : 4 > 5 : 3 etc)” -> “direct bo3-wins among tied” -> “direct map score among tied” -> “one round of decider matches bo1 or 3” -> “coin toss”


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/5nrsq7/iem_announces_76player_tournament_with_250000/dcf29ll/

They will use map score first, if two players have the same match score.

So for example Showtime would be first over TY at IEM if they had the same results as at WESG.

So with that system Elazer would have been out instead of Major right?
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
January 14 2017 19:33 GMT
#54
On January 15 2017 04:19 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2017 04:11 Musicus wrote:
I asked Carmac how they would handle tie breakers in the round robin phase and if head 2 head or map score comes first . Definitely interesting for the competing players at the very least .

Use “total bo3-wins” -> “map score (6 : 3 > 6 : 4 > 5 : 3 etc)” -> “direct bo3-wins among tied” -> “direct map score among tied” -> “one round of decider matches bo1 or 3” -> “coin toss”


https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/5nrsq7/iem_announces_76player_tournament_with_250000/dcf29ll/

They will use map score first, if two players have the same match score.

So for example Showtime would be first over TY at IEM if they had the same results as at WESG.

So with that system Elazer would have been out instead of Major right?


Major won vs Elazer and they had the same map score right? If so then yes, Major would've advanced.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Semikolon
Profile Joined February 2016
Norway46 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 13:11:37
January 15 2017 13:03 GMT
#55
Tickets sold out already? :\

EDIT: My bad.. The ticket site says sold out, but I found out the tickets go on sale on Jan 17th.
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
January 15 2017 14:29 GMT
#56
Major won vs Elazer and they had the same map score right? If so then yes, Major would've advanced.


You are using a false assumption that if rules were different, the results would be the same.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55458 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-15 14:38:23
January 15 2017 14:34 GMT
#57
On January 15 2017 23:29 Kafka777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Major won vs Elazer and they had the same map score right? If so then yes, Major would've advanced.


You are using a false assumption that if rules were different, the results would be the same.

In the case of the Major/Elazer/Scarlett tie you could assume that the results would have been the same though because it wasn't decided how the whole thing was going to go until the final match of the group was played. It's not like the TY/Showtime tie where TY had the group won after 4 matches and could just do whatever in the last match.

However, it was just a theoretical example to demonstrate how the rules are different. It's not so much assuming the results would have been the same under different rules, it's exemplifying how different rules would play out for the same results.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Kafka777
Profile Joined December 2015
361 Posts
January 15 2017 16:12 GMT
#58
In the case of the Major/Elazer/Scarlett tie you could assume that the results would have been the same though because it wasn't decided how the whole thing was going to go until the final match of the group was played. It's not like the TY/Showtime tie where TY had the group won after 4 matches and could just do whatever in the last match.


This may be a bit more complicated. The final match between Elazer-Scarlett decided seeding. 2-0 gave Elazer easy 10k $ or somewhat risky 20-50k to Scarlett. 2-1 reversed the risk, but we could assume Elazer felt more confident against Showtime.
Also having different set of rules it is most unlikely Elazer would lose a map against Zerghandi as it would have a different meaning and openings would have been safe and the final map score would have been different.
Comedy
Profile Joined March 2016
453 Posts
January 15 2017 16:25 GMT
#59
On January 16 2017 01:12 Kafka777 wrote:
Also having different set of rules it is most unlikely Elazer would lose a map against Zerghandi as it would have a different meaning and openings would have been safe and the final map score would have been different.


I can assure you that this is false.
Dungeontay
Profile Joined December 2015
126 Posts
January 15 2017 17:04 GMT
#60
i see that. i see the SC2 upswing. this is what sc2 needs. thanks
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