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INnoVation: "I’ll be going to Katowice, so I’m very glad.…

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33457 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-18 07:03:43
December 18 2016 06:58 GMT
#1
This is a translated transcription of the post-match press conference with IEM Gyeonggi champion, (T)INnoVation

First, tell us how you feel about winning the championship

Playing in IEM, I didn’t think so far as winning the championship. I’m very happy I was able to advance step by step until I won the championship. I feel like I’ve been rewarded for how hard I worked, so I feel good.

Did you expect to win so easily, 4-0?

Actually, since Terran versus Protoss is hard, I wasn’t thinking I’d win 4-0. I felt like I might lose, and even if I won, it would be difficult. Maybe Stats was more nervous than I expected—his usual skill level didn’t come out, so I think I was able to win easily.

When you were ahead 3-0, did you think about the reverse sweep you suffered against Soulkey?

While the finals against Soulkey came to mind, but there was also that time I defeated sOs 4-0 in a Terran vs Protoss final. Thinking of that, I felt that I was very strong in finals against Protoss.

There weren’t any long games today. Is TvP hard if get to the late game and Protoss can get their composition together?

TvP is harder as it goes later, but as long as you can seize the advantage in the early and mid game, I think there are timings where you are pretty strong. It’s not like you can avoid going to the late game altogether, so I just played the game as it came naturally to me.

You used a proxy cyclone build. Were you confident in that strategy?

Honestly, it was a build I hadn’t practiced a single game of. I’ve played it twice, once against Trust and against Stats today. It’s a build I’ve only thought about in my head. It just felt like it would work, I thought it was fine. Also I heard there were similar builds to it in the past. I was ahead in score, so I used it thinking if it would be fine if it was stopped in one game.

You earned a spot at the IEM World Championship.

I’ll be going to Katowice, so I’m very glad. I think whoever wins there is the true winner, this is just a taste. Since the tournament is in March, there’s a lot of time left, so I’ll try to practice hard until then.

What are your goals for 2017?

The GSL preliminaries are coming up. I think I need to win the GSL at least once to get a safe amount of points. So my goal is winning GSL once.

You can win a BlizzCon spot by winning Katowice as well.

I didn’t know that, but that’s great. Katowice is a really big stage, the World Championship. To a progamer, it’s a stage you dream of. I’m glad I can stand on that stage, I’m happy.

Anything you want to say to conclude?

I’m streaming regularly and interacting with my fans, so please come watch.
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FlyingSheeP
Profile Joined March 2011
China45 Posts
December 18 2016 07:09 GMT
#2
yay
Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa~
Peggies
Profile Joined December 2016
Philippines9 Posts
December 18 2016 07:16 GMT
#3
been watching Inno's stream lately and I think he really deserves this Championship.. I wanted a 4-2 score though but great show of dominace.. :D
INNOVATION FLASH FANTASY SKT1 FOREVER
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
December 18 2016 07:16 GMT
#4
Not enough "because I am INnoVation".
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
December 18 2016 07:49 GMT
#5
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?
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agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
December 18 2016 07:51 GMT
#6
Grats inno!
yht9657
Profile Joined December 2016
1810 Posts
December 18 2016 07:55 GMT
#7
"Terran versus Protoss is hard". Inno played well indeed, but since the recent patches it's actually hard time for Protoss I'm afraid.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
December 18 2016 08:30 GMT
#8
Cute that he hadn't practiced that proxy build.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
ShAd_1337
Profile Joined January 2016
Germany1042 Posts
December 18 2016 09:35 GMT
#9
the king is back!
I like Dark
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
December 18 2016 09:48 GMT
#10
Big cheer for his streams. And go Inno in GSL!
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 18 2016 11:06 GMT
#11
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.
Zest fanboy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
December 18 2016 11:24 GMT
#12
On December 18 2016 20:06 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.

Yeah, he often sets the standard.

But that build (or a very similar one) was used in the GSL test map tournament by TY and ByuN so it's not like it's totally new.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 18 2016 11:31 GMT
#13
On December 18 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2016 20:06 imre wrote:
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.

Yeah, he often sets the standard.

But that build (or a very similar one) was used in the GSL test map tournament by TY and ByuN so it's not like it's totally new.


On the other hand, be ready for 6 months of hellion/cyclone if it's not nerfed.
Zest fanboy.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
December 18 2016 11:34 GMT
#14
On December 18 2016 20:31 imre wrote:
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On December 18 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
On December 18 2016 20:06 imre wrote:
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.

Yeah, he often sets the standard.

But that build (or a very similar one) was used in the GSL test map tournament by TY and ByuN so it's not like it's totally new.


On the other hand, be ready for 6 months of hellion/cyclone if it's not nerfed.

SKT was already working on hellion/cyclone even before the patch came out. It's oov's legacy
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
December 18 2016 12:10 GMT
#15
Inno should start saying "Because I am Innovation" for real now. He should make it his thing.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
December 18 2016 12:35 GMT
#16
On December 18 2016 21:10 Musicus wrote:
Inno should start saying "Because I am Innovation" for real now. He should make it his thing.



I'm not sure he's that cocky, it would be more of a Parting kind of line....
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
December 18 2016 12:40 GMT
#17
On December 18 2016 20:31 imre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
On December 18 2016 20:06 imre wrote:
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.

Yeah, he often sets the standard.

But that build (or a very similar one) was used in the GSL test map tournament by TY and ByuN so it's not like it's totally new.


On the other hand, be ready for 6 months of hellion/cyclone if it's not nerfed.



It won't be nerfed imho, but I wouldn't be suprised if the baneling nerf was put on stand by for a while because of this.

On December 18 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2016 20:06 imre wrote:
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.

Yeah, he often sets the standard.

But that build (or a very similar one) was used in the GSL test map tournament by TY and ByuN so it's not like it's totally new.



The thing with INno is how refined his builds are and how he has an adaptation for every scenario, so when playing terran he is the guy to copy, unlike Maru or ByuN who you know you won't be able to copy unless you have insane micro and multitask.

INnoVation is the textbook terran.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 18 2016 13:14 GMT
#18
On December 18 2016 21:40 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2016 20:31 imre wrote:
On December 18 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
On December 18 2016 20:06 imre wrote:
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.

Yeah, he often sets the standard.

But that build (or a very similar one) was used in the GSL test map tournament by TY and ByuN so it's not like it's totally new.


On the other hand, be ready for 6 months of hellion/cyclone if it's not nerfed.



It won't be nerfed imho, but I wouldn't be suprised if the baneling nerf was put on stand by for a while because of this.

Show nested quote +
On December 18 2016 20:24 Elentos wrote:
On December 18 2016 20:06 imre wrote:
On December 18 2016 16:49 Nakajin wrote:
Omg he never practiced the proxy cyclone build before, did we just saw INnoVation innovate!?


Inno is actually a huge influence regarding terran builds & strategies. Just because he sticks to his guns for a looooong time when he finds something doesn't mean he never innovates.

Yeah, he often sets the standard.

But that build (or a very similar one) was used in the GSL test map tournament by TY and ByuN so it's not like it's totally new.



The thing with INno is how refined his builds are and how he has an adaptation for every scenario, so when playing terran he is the guy to copy, unlike Maru or ByuN who you know you won't be able to copy unless you have insane micro and multitask.

INnoVation is the textbook terran.


His cc 1st with the cancelled marau into mech at the end of HotS was like the perfect opening. Eco oriented and safe at the same time assuming you were scouting correctly. Lovely stuff to copy.
Zest fanboy.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
December 18 2016 13:46 GMT
#19
innovation back in the game
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Lightrush
Profile Joined July 2015
Bulgaria164 Posts
December 18 2016 14:26 GMT
#20
He won with a build he didnt practice ? Damn thats impressive. And even the interview a lot better than the previous one.
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ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
December 19 2016 05:50 GMT
#21
Innovation's CC first into bio wm constant push was the build that every bio Terran copied.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
December 19 2016 05:54 GMT
#22
That isn't Innovation. Those are multi-sentence answers with a bit of colour. No freakin way that is Innovation. Something must have been added in the translation!
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-19 06:41:36
December 19 2016 06:39 GMT
#23
I feel like I’ve been rewarded for how hard I worked

Didn't he just yesterday say that this was a lost year because he had been playing LoL on his off time instead of extra sc2 training? From the other interview:

I didn’t practice much, I goofed off some, so I didn’t get good results.
ParksonVN
Profile Joined October 2015
Australia370 Posts
December 19 2016 06:47 GMT
#24
On December 19 2016 15:39 Cascade wrote:
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I feel like I’ve been rewarded for how hard I worked

Didn't he just yesterday say that this was a lost year because he had been playing LoL on his off time instead of extra sc2 training? From the other interview:

Show nested quote +
I didn’t practice much, I goofed off some, so I didn’t get good results.

He might played alot of LOL at the first half of 2016 but he certainly trained hard last few months, especially after Blizzcon. You can watch him streaming very often on twitch.
Kitai
Profile Joined June 2012
United States876 Posts
December 19 2016 06:48 GMT
#25
On December 19 2016 15:39 Cascade wrote:
Didn't he just yesterday say that this was a lost year because he had been playing LoL on his off time instead of extra sc2 training? From the other interview:


My interpretation was that he didn't practice hard for most of 2016 and therefore didn't get good results. However, he practiced hard for this tournament and his reward was a championship.
"You know, I don't care if soO got 100 second places in a row. Anyone who doesn't think that he's going to win blizzcon watching this series is a fool" - Artosis, Blizzcon 2014 soO vs TaeJa
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
December 19 2016 06:59 GMT
#26
On December 19 2016 15:48 Kitai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2016 15:39 Cascade wrote:
Didn't he just yesterday say that this was a lost year because he had been playing LoL on his off time instead of extra sc2 training? From the other interview:


My interpretation was that he didn't practice hard for most of 2016 and therefore didn't get good results. However, he practiced hard for this tournament and his reward was a championship.


Yup that would be it.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
December 19 2016 07:26 GMT
#27
ok, yeah that makes sense. Thanks TLers.
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