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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
October 27 2016 14:31 GMT
#281
On October 27 2016 22:48 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On October 27 2016 22:42 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 22:41 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 27 2016 22:40 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 27 2016 21:44 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 27 2016 21:40 Elentos wrote:
On October 27 2016 21:37 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On October 27 2016 21:34 Elentos wrote:
On October 27 2016 21:33 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I am more offended by the fact that the highest place for TY was third -.-

Someone put Stats at 9, that's way worse.

Ok true, but that's the life of Stats, always a bit underappreciated

Just because we're used to it doesn't mean we have to accept it

Some things will simply never change At least the community PR ranks him at 5th

Should be 2nd

No

Yes

Stats > Dark finals

The top 4 is pretty clear imo. Dark, Byun, TY and Solar (Order is debatable)

Imo Stats is in the group of top players, too. I don't think ByuN, TY or Solar have a significant advantage over Stats. Dark maybe.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 27 2016 14:43 GMT
#282
I don't think he makes the cut tbh, the others have better results overall.
Not that it's a huge gap, but it's there i think
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
October 27 2016 14:50 GMT
#283
On October 27 2016 23:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't think he makes the cut tbh, the others have better results overall.
Not that it's a huge gap, but it's there i think

Do they? I'm not so sure. I guess you only count offline as usual. What puts TY ahead of Stats? Their results aren't that different overall.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 27 2016 14:55 GMT
#284
On October 27 2016 23:50 Elentos wrote:
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On October 27 2016 23:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't think he makes the cut tbh, the others have better results overall.
Not that it's a huge gap, but it's there i think

Do they? I'm not so sure. I guess you only count offline as usual. What puts TY ahead of Stats? Their results aren't that different overall.

I am actually not only counting offline. I also counted WESG qualifiers for example.
BUt even without that TY would be slightly ahead due to double ro8 in season 2.
In general i looked a bit at online results in general, even though i weigh these weekly cups not nearly the same as actually important matches.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 15:12:29
October 27 2016 15:05 GMT
#285
On October 27 2016 23:55 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On October 27 2016 23:50 Elentos wrote:
On October 27 2016 23:43 The_Red_Viper wrote:
I don't think he makes the cut tbh, the others have better results overall.
Not that it's a huge gap, but it's there i think

Do they? I'm not so sure. I guess you only count offline as usual. What puts TY ahead of Stats? Their results aren't that different overall.

I am actually not only counting offline. I also counted WESG qualifiers for example.
BUt even without that TY would be slightly ahead due to double ro8 in season 2.
In general i looked a bit at online results in general, even though i weigh these weekly cups not nearly the same as actually important matches.

I'd say they'd be even because of Proleague.

Comparatively -

Proleague: Stats > TY > Solar > Dark
KeSPA Cup: TY = Stats > Solar = ByuN > Dark
GSL S2: ByuN > TY > Dark > Stats = Solar
SSL S2: Solar > Dark > Stats = TY > ByuN
WESG Qualifiers: TY > ByuN > Stats = Dark > Solar

He's not doing that much worse.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 27 2016 15:09 GMT
#286
Hm i didn't consider Proleague i guess, still with WESG included i think TY > Stats is a fair judgement
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55553 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-27 15:22:43
October 27 2016 15:18 GMT
#287
On October 28 2016 00:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Hm i didn't consider Proleague i guess, still with WESG included i think TY > Stats is a fair judgement

See my edit, I compared the 5 in 5 different tournaments and Stats was never last place

(out of the 5 he's also 4th in overall offline winrates this year and 3rd by form according to Aligulac)

Any difference between him and the other is pretty miniscule.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 27 2016 15:25 GMT
#288
On October 28 2016 00:18 Elentos wrote:
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On October 28 2016 00:09 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Hm i didn't consider Proleague i guess, still with WESG included i think TY > Stats is a fair judgement

See my edit, I compared the 5 in 5 different tournaments and Stats was never last place

Hey i don't wanna say it's a TBLS situation
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13978 Posts
October 27 2016 15:55 GMT
#289
I'd say Stats > TY pretty easily. Byun would probably wreck him. It's really hard to rate him vs the zergs. Solar prob has the lead over him.
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
October 27 2016 16:11 GMT
#290
On October 28 2016 00:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'd say Stats > TY pretty easily. Byun would probably wreck him. It's really hard to rate him vs the zergs. Solar prob has the lead over him.

You are drunk
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
October 27 2016 16:42 GMT
#291
I approve of this list.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13978 Posts
October 27 2016 18:40 GMT
#292
On October 28 2016 01:11 The_Red_Viper wrote:
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On October 28 2016 00:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
I'd say Stats > TY pretty easily. Byun would probably wreck him. It's really hard to rate him vs the zergs. Solar prob has the lead over him.

You are drunk

I'm Cricketer.
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Zest_is_best
Profile Joined October 2016
France15 Posts
October 28 2016 00:03 GMT
#293
Still no one talks about dear he's so underrated, I think he's easily top 8 and has good chances of top 4 dependings on playoff draws (if he's vs TY in ro8 I definitely see him advancing in ro4 but final will be though to reach)
soO & INnoVation for life, jjakji, Dark, aLive and Classic as well - RIP skt :*
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9396 Posts
October 31 2016 17:51 GMT
#294
On October 25 2016 23:32 Elentos wrote:
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On October 25 2016 23:21 Hider wrote:
On October 25 2016 22:50 AbouSV wrote:
Articles (whether TL or not) are not meant to be 'Statistic analysis master degree final exam', but they can give any of the following: background, recent form, general information, humour, hype, and, yes, biais (the subjective one, not the mathematical one).

Someone good at stats can do the math himself. If not, the details of such an abstract article would just be pointless to read anyway.


It matters for me. Because now people will probably think Neeb choked - as in mental weakness - when he "unexpectedly" goes out in quarter finals.

Well then the course of action is obvious, Hider. You go there and rig the whole thing so that Neeb and Dark play in the quarter finals. #2 going out against #1 isn't "unexpected" or an "upset". Also prepare a time machine in case Dark messes up and loses or doesn't win convincingly enough for it to not be a "choke".


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