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KeSPA Cup 2016 - Power Rank - Page 6

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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2016 15:36 GMT
#101
On September 28 2016 21:24 Olli wrote:
There's a community PR in general I believe

Yeah you are right i should do one of those again
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
September 28 2016 15:56 GMT
#102
Funny how the undisputed #16 in the PR is in the RO8 but the undisputed #1 isn't
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 16:12:20
September 28 2016 16:11 GMT
#103
On September 28 2016 15:56 Olli wrote:
Just to clarify this, we don't actually feel embarrassed if we're wrong. We laugh at people who claim to have known it better all along.

a tier list instead of a clear rank would be better imo and avoid the PR to be only a meme
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2016 16:15 GMT
#104
On September 29 2016 01:11 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2016 15:56 Olli wrote:
Just to clarify this, we don't actually feel embarrassed if we're wrong. We laugh at people who claim to have known it better all along.

a tier list instead of a clear rank would be better imo and avoid the PR to be only a meme

No we need power ranks. Just because reality doesn't play out as the ranking doesn't mean the ranking wasn't good.
This isn't about making it out of groups, it's about the "best player".
Byun number one was the right choice, him losing against Zest doesn't change that
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
September 28 2016 17:34 GMT
#105
On September 29 2016 01:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 01:11 Makro wrote:
On September 28 2016 15:56 Olli wrote:
Just to clarify this, we don't actually feel embarrassed if we're wrong. We laugh at people who claim to have known it better all along.

a tier list instead of a clear rank would be better imo and avoid the PR to be only a meme

No we need power ranks. Just because reality doesn't play out as the ranking doesn't mean the ranking wasn't good.
This isn't about making it out of groups, it's about the "best player".
Byun number one was the right choice, him losing against Zest doesn't change that

i agree, but was byun the most discussed one ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
September 28 2016 17:58 GMT
#106
Well this is a true TL powerrank now that #16 moved forward
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
September 28 2016 18:01 GMT
#107
On September 29 2016 01:15 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2016 01:11 Makro wrote:
On September 28 2016 15:56 Olli wrote:
Just to clarify this, we don't actually feel embarrassed if we're wrong. We laugh at people who claim to have known it better all along.

a tier list instead of a clear rank would be better imo and avoid the PR to be only a meme

No we need power ranks. Just because reality doesn't play out as the ranking doesn't mean the ranking wasn't good.
This isn't about making it out of groups, it's about the "best player".
Byun number one was the right choice, him losing against Zest doesn't change that

yea tiers wouldn't be nearly as fun, definitely enjoy the absolute rankings even if it only has a ~0.0001% chance of being "correct"
fuck the haters

btw, Pet is winning the tournament and Byun is out, your power rank sucks!
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Soularion
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Canada2764 Posts
September 28 2016 20:26 GMT
#108
yeah I really don't understand why people rated herO so high

pet is lul
Writermaru pls
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
September 28 2016 20:31 GMT
#109
On September 29 2016 05:26 Soularion wrote:
yeah I really don't understand why people rated herO so high

pet is lul

Because he's herO and he got a lot of wins in Proleague or something. I dunno. He'd still have been in my top 10 but definitely lower.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
September 28 2016 21:10 GMT
#110
I heard from Pet's interview that herO hasn't practicing a lot lately, don't know why..
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-28 21:25:08
September 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#111
On September 29 2016 00:56 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Funny how the undisputed #16 in the PR is in the RO8 but the undisputed #1 isn't

Zest decided to have a good PvT again. He was playing badly this season but when you show such prowess (his PvT seemed reallyyy unbeatable in a series the first GSL), doing badly in GSL/SSL doesn't mean you'll perform equally as bad in things such as Kespa Cup.
He was definitely hard to rank.
Pet was a safe #16 but the favorites only win 2/3 of times, sometimes Pet have to win.
WriterMaru
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2016 21:24 GMT
#112
On September 29 2016 06:10 TheHumanLife wrote:
I heard from Pet's interview that herO hasn't practicing a lot lately, don't know why..

Maybe herO is 424
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
September 29 2016 00:54 GMT
#113
Doesn't seem like Power Rankings to me, looks more like... uh, Powerless Rankings.

Don't worry, my trash talk will get better. Probably.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Togekiss
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada154 Posts
September 29 2016 02:48 GMT
#114
ByuN top and Pet bottom.... hmmmm... something seems to have gone very very wrong already.
TheHumanLife
Profile Joined September 2016
138 Posts
September 29 2016 10:41 GMT
#115
well in sc2, there's no 100% guarantee such as best pro beat worst pro
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 30 2016 14:27 GMT
#116
On September 29 2016 19:41 TheHumanLife wrote:
well in sc2, there's no 100% guarantee such as best pro beat worst pro


nor should there be, that's the beauty of the game, right?
maru lover forever
ilililililililiii
Profile Joined October 2013
United States93 Posts
October 01 2016 12:57 GMT
#117
On September 27 2016 11:42 Soularion wrote:


Pet is horrible, Trap is weak, Rogue and Zest have both had very very middling form recently, while herO/patience are totally arguable - I just haven't seen enough from herO, and his decisive losses in the Ro8 of both GSLs are the main thing I've seen from his year.



apparently only a current champion will impress you lmao
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
October 01 2016 13:09 GMT
#118
On September 29 2016 06:10 TheHumanLife wrote:
I heard from Pet's interview that herO hasn't practicing a lot lately, don't know why..

Well ... I guess why ...
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
October 01 2016 14:11 GMT
#119
PR should be more based on 'results' (in the past year), rather than 'form' (in the past month or two). Especially since 'form' in SC2 fluctuates so much (Zest slumping in Season 2, and now Byun slumping too), and ' results' is based on a player's peak and consistency.

Zest is ranked too low in this PR. Terrible recent form? So what? That doesn't take away his strong performances and results in the first half of a year.

Djokovic has been slumping last few months. Doesn't mean he slides out of the Top 5 so abruptly.

(BTW, I mentioned this previously even before KeSPA Cup)
gg no re thx
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 01 2016 17:55 GMT
#120
On October 01 2016 23:11 RKC wrote:
PR should be more based on 'results' (in the past year), rather than 'form' (in the past month or two). Especially since 'form' in SC2 fluctuates so much (Zest slumping in Season 2, and now Byun slumping too), and ' results' is based on a player's peak and consistency.


Why is everyone saying Byun is slumping? I really don't get it. The only loses he's had recently are to Dark and Zest. Both of whom have litterally been the best of their races in LoTV. Against any other Zerg or Protoss Byun would have won both series.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
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