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So clem can participate here?
And wheres Drogo? 
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I tough Lilbow was not playing sc2 anymore?
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On July 13 2016 02:10 Nakajin wrote:
I tough Lilbow was not playing sc2 anymore?
The infamous soft "retire"! It may be that the event is close enough that he may as well just go, I dunno.
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On July 13 2016 02:10 Nakajin wrote:
I tough Lilbow was not playing sc2 anymore?
Well, it's Lilbow. If he sucks at Valencia, he can blame it on switching to overwatch and thus too little SC2 practice... 
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Why Scarlett normally don't attend these dreamhack open tournaments? Want to see her more on offline tournaments after her good run on HSC..
She and Drogo will be in Shanghai's NSL international but not this WCS event.. don't understand, they both have chance to fight for a BlizCon spot.
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wait? Polt, Hydra, Nerchio haven't qualified? Im hyped.
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Snute has this one in the bag, I can feel it. Gogo Snute. Fighting!
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Only 3 Koreans, and they are foreign Koreans.
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On July 13 2016 04:32 geokilla wrote:
Only 3 Koreans, and they are foreign Koreans.
Wait, are you surprised or something? This is how the WCS has been all year ever since the change. Sad to see no TRUE though since he's eligible for WCS now.
Would love to see VortiX make a deep run or for Snute to finally grab another title since he's been so close twice this past year, only to be upset by Harstem, twice 
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Where is Serral? Love to see that guy play, him and Zanster are so sick.
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On July 13 2016 07:53 Shuffleblade wrote:
Where is Serral? Love to see that guy play, him and Zanster are so sick.
actually, shouldn't there be more than 3 swedes here? what am i missing?
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Lilbow contract with team Millenium has not expired yet and his travel costs are covered. So basically he is having a free trip... 
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MIllennium.Showtime qualified for two spots !!!
What a boss.
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inb4 lilbow fails miserably again
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stephano decided not to go then? i thought valencia was supposed to be his last huzzah
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Bah...pretty weak lineup :/
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On July 13 2016 14:28 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
Bah...pretty weak lineup :/
Which players are you missing that would make it a good one? (none KR)
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On July 13 2016 03:53 Symons7 wrote:
Why Scarlett normally don't attend these dreamhack open tournaments? Want to see her more on offline tournaments after her good run on HSC..
She and Drogo will be in Shanghai's NSL international but not this WCS event.. don't understand, they both have chance to fight for a BlizCon spot.
I feel you! Was so good to see her kick ass at HSC and I wish she would participate more. If I had to guess it has something to do with not having travel costs from Korea covered?
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On July 13 2016 14:02 Aocowns wrote:
stephano decided not to go then? i thought valencia was supposed to be his last huzzah
I thought so too :'(.
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Sad that Welmu and Serral are missing, but I guess it's their summer holiday now. Still cheering for ZhuGeLiang and PuPu.
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for the love of god the quality of tournaments keeps dropping.. can we please for ONCE get a global tournament? i cant watch these foreigner festivals
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On July 13 2016 10:03 -NegativeZero- wrote:
inb4 lilbow fails miserably again
Well, he is practicing for OW, so...
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no scarlett? that's sad...
and what about kingkong? i heard he was dqed last time because of the changed rules, and he can't attend this event as well?
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On July 13 2016 14:54 Shuffleblade wrote:Which players are you missing that would make it a good one? (none KR)
Welmu and Serral.
Duh.
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looking forward to this great tournament!
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are bets taken on how many games we are going to see on stream?
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Stephano will be there! <3
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The line-up looks really cool, looking forward to this! 
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On July 13 2016 08:14 nath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 07:53 Shuffleblade wrote:
Where is Serral? Love to see that guy play, him and Zanster are so sick. actually, shouldn't there be more than 3 swedes here? what am i missing?
I don't think LoTV and Sweden has a love affair. Those three are the ones we can expect something of these days, the rest seem to have fallen behind...
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major and kelazhur in the same group lol
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On July 13 2016 09:04 KappaKingPrime wrote:Lilbow contract with team Millenium has not expired yet and his travel costs are covered. So basically he is having a free trip...
Every piece of news I hear about Lilbow makes me dislike him more and more...
First he doesn't practice for Blizzcon because he's "preparing for LotV." Then he quits LotV within months of it releasing to play Overwatch, but now he still gets a free trip to Valencia even though he's "retired" from SC2?
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On July 13 2016 17:51 evolsiefil wrote:for the love of god the quality of tournaments keeps dropping.. can we please for ONCE get a global tournament? i cant watch these foreigner festivals
You have GSL, SSL, and Proleague if you want to watch Koreans.
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On July 14 2016 02:47 SC2Towelie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2016 09:04 KappaKingPrime wrote:Lilbow contract with team Millenium has not expired yet and his travel costs are covered. So basically he is having a free trip... Every piece of news I hear about Lilbow makes me dislike him more and more... First he doesn't practice for Blizzcon because he's "preparing for LotV." Then he quits LotV within months of it releasing to play Overwatch, but now he still gets a free trip to Valencia even though he's "retired" from SC2?
You have no idea what is inside his contract with Millenium.
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Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one.
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![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/images/flags2/kr.png) for the win
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On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one.
Cause the line up is weak. And the hype just has got old. (got from "the best players" to "some of the best players").
Damn, give us koreans.
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On July 14 2016 04:10 gingerfluffmuff wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one. Cause the line up is weak. And the hype just has got old. (got from "the best players" to "some of the best players"). Damn, give us koreans.
Some of the best players? Who?
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On July 14 2016 04:15 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2016 04:10 gingerfluffmuff wrote:On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one. Cause the line up is weak. And the hype just has got old. (got from "the best players" to "some of the best players"). Damn, give us koreans. Some of the best players? Who?
no, not anymore. I dont watch WCS but i am curious what casters/hosts use nowadays to describe their player pool. Good old times where we roasted them in LR when saying the "best players"
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On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one.
Biggest problem is that foreigners barely get any recognition for winning tournaments now. I mean showtime wins DH tours and played really well but compare that to the hype when people like naniwa, stephano or Idra competed with the best.
People just aren't impressed by foreigners winning tournaments now and so there's also zero hype for those tournaments.
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On July 14 2016 04:20 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one. Biggest problem is that foreigners barely get any recognition for winning tournaments now. I mean showtime wins DH tours and played really well but compare that to the hype when people like naniwa, stephano or Idra competed with the best. People just aren't impressed by foreigners winning tournaments now and so there's also zero hype for those tournaments.
It stirs the question of Why?
Has foreign competition gap become so large that "the best foreigners" aren't even worth hyping?
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On July 14 2016 06:06 Garemie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2016 04:20 Charoisaur wrote:On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one. Biggest problem is that foreigners barely get any recognition for winning tournaments now. I mean showtime wins DH tours and played really well but compare that to the hype when people like naniwa, stephano or Idra competed with the best. People just aren't impressed by foreigners winning tournaments now and so there's also zero hype for those tournaments. It stirs the question of Why? Has foreign competition gap become so large that "the best foreigners" aren't even worth hyping?
This is mainly a community problem imo. There are quite a few people around here who have tried their best to dismiss everything that has to do with WCS this year before it even happens, by continuously posting in all threads relating to bigger events stuff that in the end boils down to "No Koreans = I'm not gonna watch this". Even in this thread. In July. Mind-boggling. I just don't get how people find the time and the energy to be so negative for such a long period of time over such a thing.
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On July 14 2016 06:06 Garemie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2016 04:20 Charoisaur wrote:On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one. Biggest problem is that foreigners barely get any recognition for winning tournaments now. I mean showtime wins DH tours and played really well but compare that to the hype when people like naniwa, stephano or Idra competed with the best. People just aren't impressed by foreigners winning tournaments now and so there's also zero hype for those tournaments. It stirs the question of Why? Has foreign competition gap become so large that "the best foreigners" aren't even worth hyping?
It's because "the best foreigners" almost never get the chance to prove themselves against high level Korean opposition. Watching foreigners beat up foreigners and WCS Koreans in tournaments is all fine and dandy, and if people enjoy it, more power to them.
But I got a thousand times more excitement watching things like Snute beating the GSL and SSL champions back to back in one day during an IEM group stage than I get watching WCS playoffs this year. The notable exception being the finals of DH Tours between ShoWTimE and Nerchio.
It just would be nice to see foreigners and Koreans play each other before the Global Playoffs in autumn. Because I do think that players like ShoWTimE, Nerchio, etc. could do well. But they have no chance to prove themselves.
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Gotta be honest, its hard to egt hyped for those tournaments when looking purely at the players there. And I'm not even exactly sure why I feel that way because there's some good ones there.
Which is weird because I wasn't the biggest fan of the all korean robots tournaments from before, but the currents foreigners are all pretty boring too somehow;
But I'm sure the tournament will be fun to watch nonetheless, because if there's one thing that hasn't changed since forever, its our casters pool, and they're all pretty good.
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On July 14 2016 06:18 BaneRiders wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2016 06:06 Garemie wrote:On July 14 2016 04:20 Charoisaur wrote:On July 14 2016 03:05 Garemie wrote:
Man this thread is depressing. why cant we just be happy that foreign competition is still happening? It's gonna be a blast to watch, hopefully snute takes this one. Biggest problem is that foreigners barely get any recognition for winning tournaments now. I mean showtime wins DH tours and played really well but compare that to the hype when people like naniwa, stephano or Idra competed with the best. People just aren't impressed by foreigners winning tournaments now and so there's also zero hype for those tournaments. It stirs the question of Why? Has foreign competition gap become so large that "the best foreigners" aren't even worth hyping? This is mainly a community problem imo. There are quite a few people around here who have tried their best to dismiss everything that has to do with WCS this year before it even happens, by continuously posting in all threads relating to bigger events stuff that in the end boils down to "No Koreans = I'm not gonna watch this". Even in this thread. In July. Mind-boggling. I just don't get how people find the time and the energy to be so negative for such a long period of time over such a thing.
it's basically the opposite of when a bunch of people would always post "welp, only koreans left, guess I'm not watching anymore" lol
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Snute'll take it, especially considering the overall weakness of the opposition.
Bravo to Blizzard for this new WCS format that gives tours that have almost no interest skill-wise.
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Starcraft community gotta love the "passion". :D
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