On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
"it doesn't count that TY won and Maru didn't because I value Maru's lack of runs more than TY's runs"
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
TY has better individual league results in LotV than any other Terran and he's the 2nd highest ranking Terran in PL.
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
"it doesn't count that TY won and Maru didn't because I value Maru's lack of runs more than TY's runs"
Seriously? Well, I don't understand exactly what you mean, but I guess, you should visit a doctor ;-)
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
TY has better individual league results in LotV than any other Terran and he's the 2nd highest ranking Terran in PL.
Only you would call this mediocre and mean it.
Well, the last time when I was doing TY's match statistics against other ACE players, it was 1-7. I call that mediocre. I think, in between, he has won a few matches, so it could be now like 3-7? I understand that some people consider 3-7 a great result for a Terran, but if you want to see better statistics, check Maru.
EDIT: Maru's score in 2016: 8-5 TY's score in 2016: 3-10
TY is good against weaker opponents, he beats them quite hard. Against the ACE players (Zest, Stats, Dark, soO, Dear, Classic, herO, sOS ...) he is not that good.
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
TY has better individual league results in LotV than any other Terran and he's the 2nd highest ranking Terran in PL.
Only you would call this mediocre and mean it.
Well, the last time when I was doing TY's match statistics against other ACE players, it was 1-7. I call that mediocre. I think, in between, he has won a few matches, so it could be now like 3-7? I understand that some people consider 3-7 a great result for a Terran, but if you want to see better statistics, check Maru.
EDIT: Maru's score in 2016: 8-5 TY's score in 2016: 3-10
TY is good against weaker opponents, he beats them quite hard. Against the ACE players (Zest, Stats, Dark, soO, Dear, Classic, herO, sOS ...) he is not that good.
If you look at it like that Cure is also better than TY. But outside of those exact statistics he isn't.
Your list needs work. Especially since you count a BO1 in Proleague as the same as a BO5 in GSL.
And yeah, these aren't the best statistics from TY. But calling his results mediocre is just wrong. If he was mediocre he'd be losing way more games to players below the top tier. If you look for example at their overall offline win rates this year, out of the players you mentioned TY is #3 after Maru and Zest.
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
TY has better individual league results in LotV than any other Terran and he's the 2nd highest ranking Terran in PL.
Only you would call this mediocre and mean it.
Well, the last time when I was doing TY's match statistics against other ACE players, it was 1-7. I call that mediocre. I think, in between, he has won a few matches, so it could be now like 3-7? I understand that some people consider 3-7 a great result for a Terran, but if you want to see better statistics, check Maru.
EDIT: Maru's score in 2016: 8-5 TY's score in 2016: 3-10
TY is good against weaker opponents, he beats them quite hard. Against the ACE players (Zest, Stats, Dark, soO, Dear, Classic, herO, sOS ...) he is not that good.
If you look at it like that Cure is also better than TY. But outside of those exact statistics he isn't.
Your list needs work. Especially since you count a BO1 in Proleague as the same as a BO5 in GSL.
And yeah, these aren't the best statistics from TY. But calling his results mediocre is just wrong. If he was mediocre he'd be losing way more games to players below the top tier. If you look for example at their overall offline win rates this year, out of the players you mentioned TY is #3 after Maru and Zest.
Can we also mention that Rogue is not the best zerg in the world and isn't even anywhere close?
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
TY has better individual league results in LotV than any other Terran and he's the 2nd highest ranking Terran in PL.
Only you would call this mediocre and mean it.
Well, the last time when I was doing TY's match statistics against other ACE players, it was 1-7. I call that mediocre. I think, in between, he has won a few matches, so it could be now like 3-7? I understand that some people consider 3-7 a great result for a Terran, but if you want to see better statistics, check Maru.
EDIT: Maru's score in 2016: 8-5 TY's score in 2016: 3-10
TY is good against weaker opponents, he beats them quite hard. Against the ACE players (Zest, Stats, Dark, soO, Dear, Classic, herO, sOS ...) he is not that good.
If you look at it like that Cure is also better than TY. But outside of those exact statistics he isn't.
Your list needs work. Especially since you count a BO1 in Proleague as the same as a BO5 in GSL.
And yeah, these aren't the best statistics from TY. But calling his results mediocre is just wrong. If he was mediocre he'd be losing way more games to players below the top tier. If you look for example at their overall offline win rates this year, out of the players you mentioned TY is #3 after Maru and Zest.
Well, I am not saying, TY is a weak Terran. So far, he is the no. 2 in the world (unless they play with ByuN and ByuN wins). And you are right, I am counting matches and not maps. And it is not some "special ranking", it was just when TY was before a match with one of the ACE players and the predictions were saying, he wins it, because he is the best, I was always betting against him, because I knew, he is quite mediocre against the top opponents.
I was just laughing each time, when the commentators were calling at the beginning of TY's matches that he is undisputedly the best terran in the world, while Maru had his 12-0 winning streak, which was AGAINST several of the best players. First now, after Maru's SSL losses, TY seems to be coming closer to Maru. But still, I would bet on Maru without doubt in their match. Concerning Cure, yes, he is good, but not at all at TY's level ... and in any match against the top opponents (ACE players), I would not bet on Cure (maybe except Zergs).
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
The best terran in the world has to be TY. Maru didn't make it out of his ssl group. I know he had a hard group but he didn't look good.
I don't think so. For me, TY has shown mediocre results throughout LotV and was just lucky on opponents in one GSL run. While Maru owned the world's best players. And a choke in an unusual format does not count into this. So Maru will win. Cure will win. The other two matches probably go to KT. But both sOs or Rogue can prepare an upset.
TY has better individual league results in LotV than any other Terran and he's the 2nd highest ranking Terran in PL.
Only you would call this mediocre and mean it.
Well, the last time when I was doing TY's match statistics against other ACE players, it was 1-7. I call that mediocre. I think, in between, he has won a few matches, so it could be now like 3-7? I understand that some people consider 3-7 a great result for a Terran, but if you want to see better statistics, check Maru.
EDIT: Maru's score in 2016: 8-5 TY's score in 2016: 3-10
TY is good against weaker opponents, he beats them quite hard. Against the ACE players (Zest, Stats, Dark, soO, Dear, Classic, herO, sOS ...) he is not that good.
If you look at it like that Cure is also better than TY. But outside of those exact statistics he isn't.
Your list needs work. Especially since you count a BO1 in Proleague as the same as a BO5 in GSL.
And yeah, these aren't the best statistics from TY. But calling his results mediocre is just wrong. If he was mediocre he'd be losing way more games to players below the top tier. If you look for example at their overall offline win rates this year, out of the players you mentioned TY is #3 after Maru and Zest.
Can we also mention that Rogue is not the best zerg in the world and isn't even anywhere close?
You Troll!!! Of course, there is Scarlett (who has just beaten GuMiHo), but second best for sure :-)
Come on guys Maru will just wreck TY as usual... I mean in LOTV I think TY is actually on par with Maru skill/matchup wise and even has better results. Matchups = Maru has far better TvZ, while TY has better TvP and TvT they are basically equal. Overall though, Maru ist just on another level. Not only he is a champion, regularly beating the best players (in which TY is failing hard), but he it just shows when they are playing each other that TY cannt keep up with him. We'll see what happens tomorrow but TY win would be a huge upset for me and a sign something is not right with Maru. That guys just does not lose aside from TvP
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
LOL at hero and rogue )
You know, Zergs are losing in Korea EVERY ZvT and ZvP more or less ... and now, Rogue has been set to play against the two best Protosses in the world (except Stats), so you know, how it will end :-) BUT IF ROGUE MANAGES TO SURPRISE, that would be the upset of the century ;-)
On July 01 2016 19:44 Diabolique wrote: It's going to be great! 1. Who is the best terran in the world? We will know the answer ... 2. Does sOs really have the keys to the room with cryptonite of Stats? We will know the answer ... 3. Is Rogue the best Zerg in the world, able to beat the two best protosses in the world? We will know the answer ... It is all here ...
LOL at hero and rogue )
You know, Zergs are losing in Korea EVERY ZvT and ZvP more or less ... and now, Rogue has been set to play against the two best Protosses in the world (except Stats), so you know, how it will end :-) BUT IF ROGUE MANAGES TO SURPRISE, that would be the upset of the century ;-)
Haha, I actually laughed on hero = best protoss in the world. Super and Stats are far more scary ATM i would say (Zest obviously being the undisputed best). If you look at how powerful P is at the moment in all matchups hero is actually not doing very well, especially against better opponents. I expect sexi boy to hit him with some fancy strat And cant wait what he does against Zest as well. Log ist just the Boss (wouldnt ever call him best Z in the world, but the most fancy and sexi for sure )
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