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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50196 Posts
April 14 2016 10:20 GMT
#41
On April 14 2016 19:00 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 16:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On April 14 2016 15:40 Haukinger wrote:
On April 14 2016 14:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:because they're better than the rest of the world and the rest of the world would like to topple them, would you not like your favorite player to beat the koreans?

They might be better at exploiting the features of the engine, but not at attracting viewers and producing entertaining games and storylines, and that's essentially their job. I really wonders who would cheer for some random korean that flies over to dreamhack, 3:0s everyone, grabs the price money and leaves?


can you prove that koreans don't attract numbers? Since when was it their job to do so? as far as I know their only job is to win, personal marketability is just a bonus.

Just because you don't have any interest in following koreans doesn't mean that they have no personality or that they are just some random people who are so good at "Exploiting the game engine".

oh and by the way, koreans vs foreigners is a pretty popular storyline in the SC2 community, its the reason why players like Stephano, Naniwa, Scarlett, HuK, Jinro, IdrA etc were pretty popular at their time, because they were beating koreans...


Incidentally, (I'm not sure about Jinro) but most of those foreigners also had very distinct playstyles and personalities. So, yes, we liked them because they could beat Koreans, but we also liked them because of personalities.

And similarly, the "fan favourite" Koreans like Polt, MC, PartinG and others are well-liked because they also have more distinct personalities and have communicated at least somewhat in English to the fans.

So yes, while I agree that any good player can draw a crowd, people also like watching for the players' personalities.


like I said, everything outside of their performance as a player is a bonus.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55551 Posts
April 14 2016 10:20 GMT
#42
On April 14 2016 19:18 shabby wrote:
Isn't it strange to have different rules for different kespa teams?

Well, MVP and Afreeca (Startale) were eSF teams who only came into the KeSPA fold because of Proleague. Naturally, KeSPA is a bit more protective of "their" teams.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Nerchio
Profile Joined October 2009
Poland2633 Posts
April 14 2016 10:20 GMT
#43
Eh I think i will skip this tournament
Progamer"I am the best" - Nerchio , 2017.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55551 Posts
April 14 2016 10:22 GMT
#44
On April 14 2016 19:20 Nerchio wrote:
Eh I think i will skip this tournament

I think even if you wanted to play you'd have to move Poland to Asia first.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 14 2016 10:24 GMT
#45
On April 14 2016 19:22 Elentos wrote:
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On April 14 2016 19:20 Nerchio wrote:
Eh I think i will skip this tournament

I think even if you wanted to play you'd have to move Poland to Asia first.


Poland isn't Asia?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
April 14 2016 10:29 GMT
#46
On April 14 2016 19:20 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 19:18 shabby wrote:
Isn't it strange to have different rules for different kespa teams?

Well, MVP and Afreeca (Startale) were eSF teams who only came into the KeSPA fold because of Proleague. Naturally, KeSPA is a bit more protective of "their" teams.


Yeah I know they're "new school", but they have to adhere to all other Kespa rules, and have been in the fold for a few years now.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
April 14 2016 10:53 GMT
#47
On April 14 2016 19:20 Nerchio wrote:
Eh I think i will skip this tournament

Smart choice.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 14 2016 10:56 GMT
#48
On April 14 2016 19:20 Nerchio wrote:
Eh I think i will skip this tournament


I think most players still didn't get their money from last year, so that seems smart.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 14 2016 10:58 GMT
#49
Tournaments should just stack packets of dollar bills on the podium instead of the trophy for the players to take them immediately after their elimination or victory. Problem solved.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
April 14 2016 12:46 GMT
#50
On April 14 2016 13:57 diabcockiful wrote:
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On April 14 2016 12:01 thecrazymunchkin wrote:
All aboard the Ryung train



Of all the players listed he's in the bottom half of players to make it to the finals of the actual event...


Too easy
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sa1Ko
Profile Joined July 2015
Argentina99 Posts
April 14 2016 13:44 GMT
#51
wasn´t it Bo5 all the matches ? Good casters, was really fun !
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 13:52:29
April 14 2016 13:50 GMT
#52
On April 14 2016 15:40 Haukinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 14:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:because they're better than the rest of the world and the rest of the world would like to topple them, would you not like your favorite player to beat the koreans?

They might be better at exploiting the features of the engine, but not at attracting viewers and producing entertaining games and storylines, and that's essentially their job. I really wonders who would cheer for some random korean that flies over to dreamhack, 3:0s everyone, grabs the price money and leaves?

Koreans produce the most entertaining games lol.
The only interesting storylines produced by foreigners are when they manage to beat Korean (offline especially).

Proof is that people don't give much shit when a foreigner wins a foreigners only tourney (ex: Harstem recently) but they like to see koreans vs foreigners even tho it's one sided (ex: the foreigners vs koreans event the day after Harstem won).

You are welcome

Gogo ByuN, the trophy awaits you
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SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
April 14 2016 14:12 GMT
#53
On April 14 2016 22:50 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 15:40 Haukinger wrote:
On April 14 2016 14:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:because they're better than the rest of the world and the rest of the world would like to topple them, would you not like your favorite player to beat the koreans?

They might be better at exploiting the features of the engine, but not at attracting viewers and producing entertaining games and storylines, and that's essentially their job. I really wonders who would cheer for some random korean that flies over to dreamhack, 3:0s everyone, grabs the price money and leaves?

Koreans produce the most entertaining games lol.
The only interesting storylines produced by foreigners are when they manage to beat Korean (offline especially).

and social network dramas
Vasacast always in my <3
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 14:25:00
April 14 2016 14:24 GMT
#54
On April 14 2016 15:40 Haukinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 14:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:because they're better than the rest of the world and the rest of the world would like to topple them, would you not like your favorite player to beat the koreans?

They might be better at exploiting the features of the engine, but not at attracting viewers and producing entertaining games and storylines, and that's essentially their job. I really wonders who would cheer for some random korean that flies over to dreamhack, 3:0s everyone, grabs the price money and leaves?


So...

Koreans don't attract people.

There is a reason for eSport to be on TV in their country and not yours. (and it was already 10 years earlier). (and i mean national TV)

Koreans do not produce entertaining games.

I am so sorry. I don't know what to answer you. Every week SPL have fantastic games. Fantastic builds. their is so much wrong in this statement i don't know what to say to you.

Storylines.

Well.. Ever heard of rivalries ? Rivalries are mainly KR vs KR. Sometimes not but they are mainly koreans.

Flying 3:0 koreans.
Well... why are they 3:0 everyone ? Hint : "because they are better". And of course. WHY WOULD ANYONE IN THE WORLD watch the best players. I mean... the olympics ? Soccer world cup ? Roland Garros ? i mean... no one is interested in best players.

Trolling
It' was good. I got baited.
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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 14:28:30
April 14 2016 14:27 GMT
#55
Hype in the name of the first global of 2016! Time for some fun games!

FFW_Rude: I was typing my own response before I decided not get baited into answering something unpleasant in the face of something so horribly unfair.
maru lover forever
Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-14 14:41:04
April 14 2016 14:30 GMT
#56
On April 14 2016 15:40 Haukinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 14:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:because they're better than the rest of the world and the rest of the world would like to topple them, would you not like your favorite player to beat the koreans?

They might be better at exploiting the features of the engine, but not at attracting viewers and producing entertaining games and storylines, and that's essentially their job. I really wonders who would cheer for some random korean that flies over to dreamhack, 3:0s everyone, grabs the price money and leaves?


If you think that any of the eight Koreans in the Asian qualifiers are irrelevant unknowns, then you know even less about SC2 than your racist posting suggests.
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
Ohyra
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden59 Posts
April 14 2016 16:28 GMT
#57
Hopefully this will be just as bad as everyone really thinks, and it will be the final nail in the coffin for SC2 so that we can move on to something greater. Here´s me hoping.

User was warned for this post
zealotstim
Profile Joined February 2015
United States455 Posts
April 14 2016 20:37 GMT
#58
On April 14 2016 15:40 Haukinger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 14:21 BLinD-RawR wrote:because they're better than the rest of the world and the rest of the world would like to topple them, would you not like your favorite player to beat the koreans?

They might be better at exploiting the features of the engine, but not at attracting viewers and producing entertaining games and storylines, and that's essentially their job. I really wonders who would cheer for some random korean that flies over to dreamhack, 3:0s everyone, grabs the price money and leaves?

I would cheer for them. Particularly a Korean who has more personality like Parting or Solar or has a neat playstyle like sOs. Even if not I just like gawking at amazing play.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
April 15 2016 09:11 GMT
#59
On April 15 2016 01:28 Ohyra wrote:
Hopefully this will be just as bad as everyone really thinks, and it will be the final nail in the coffin for SC2 so that we can move on to something greater. Here´s me hoping.

User was warned for this post


Just waiting for the something greater. What is it ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
munch
Profile Joined July 2014
Mute City2363 Posts
April 15 2016 14:37 GMT
#60
VODs (EN / KR) here
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