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MarineLorD and DnS disqualified from Challenger - Page 3

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Starting on Page 7, using the phrase, "Welfare Circus Series/System" will result in mod action. It breeds negativity and it's just generally a stupid thing to say. All in all, please stop discussing the WCS system, this thread is about the disqualification.
brickrd
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States4894 Posts
April 08 2016 14:15 GMT
#41
haha, loving the drama
TL+ Member
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
April 08 2016 14:15 GMT
#42
On April 08 2016 23:11 SNSeigifried wrote:
Well it wasn't on his main account because this is MarineLorD's match history.+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And these would be the 3 games he played vs a barcode terran went 2-1.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]




really, that's all they would have? a 2-1 serie with fast (I suppose all in) games against a barcode smurf account?
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 08 2016 14:15 GMT
#43
On April 08 2016 22:57 Inflicted wrote:
Could potentially lose his Spring Champ spot too

that's why i'm interested in, is marinelord out of Tours also ?
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 08 2016 14:17 GMT
#44
On April 08 2016 23:15 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:11 SNSeigifried wrote:
Well it wasn't on his main account because this is MarineLorD's match history.+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And these would be the 3 games he played vs a barcode terran went 2-1.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]




really, that's all they would have? a 2-1 serie with fast (I suppose all in) games against a barcode smurf account?


1 all in, 1 normal game and a lose for DNS. The all in is a 3g double zealot into adepts without msc/warp gates.
Zest fanboy.
KonanTenshi
Profile Joined June 2012
Sweden210 Posts
April 08 2016 14:20 GMT
#45
On April 08 2016 23:14 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:13 KonanTenshi wrote:
Why did they pick Guru instead of TomadusT(spelling?!) in the screenshot in the tweet shows he's higher ranked than guru.

TornadusT is MajOr who isn't eligible.


That explains it ^^ Cheers.

So weird they decide to only rule win trading on the eu ladder and not on the na (if there are any)
Curious
evolsiefil
Profile Joined October 2015
143 Posts
April 08 2016 14:21 GMT
#46
nobody cares about welfare circus series anyways. low level player galore.

User was temp banned for this post.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55465 Posts
April 08 2016 14:21 GMT
#47
Lovely.

Just lovely.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 14:25:11
April 08 2016 14:23 GMT
#48
StarCraft 2016: Best players banned from competing internationally, formerly irrelevant players cheat the fuck out of the system. Good thing Dreamhack features other games.
Vanadiel
Profile Joined April 2012
France961 Posts
April 08 2016 14:24 GMT
#49
On April 08 2016 23:15 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:11 SNSeigifried wrote:
Well it wasn't on his main account because this is MarineLorD's match history.+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And these would be the 3 games he played vs a barcode terran went 2-1.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]




really, that's all they would have? a 2-1 serie with fast (I suppose all in) games against a barcode smurf account?


This. Like so much troubles for just one win overall, which if removed does not take him out of the top16?
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 14:29:22
April 08 2016 14:25 GMT
#50
On April 08 2016 23:17 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:15 Gwavajuice wrote:
On April 08 2016 23:11 SNSeigifried wrote:
Well it wasn't on his main account because this is MarineLorD's match history.+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And these would be the 3 games he played vs a barcode terran went 2-1.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]




really, that's all they would have? a 2-1 serie with fast (I suppose all in) games against a barcode smurf account?


1 all in, 1 normal game and a lose for DNS. The all in is a 3g double zealot into adepts without msc/warp gates.



Okay, so I call it bullshit. The ladder race as it is designed is forcing palyers into crazy all-in short games, cause they need a lot of victory in a a very small amount of time. There is no way you go for a late game plan in this context.

Good luck then finding out which, of all the <5 mins games there must have been yesterday, are the ones where the looser didn't put enough effort into trying to stay in game.

You can't just take a random game like this and disqualify 2 players, just because you fell like to.

edit : typo and punctuation to try and make it clearer.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
PowerOfChrist
Profile Joined April 2016
2 Posts
April 08 2016 14:25 GMT
#51
On April 08 2016 23:15 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:11 SNSeigifried wrote:
Well it wasn't on his main account because this is MarineLorD's match history.+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And these would be the 3 games he played vs a barcode terran went 2-1.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]




really, that's all they would have? a 2-1 serie with fast (I suppose all in) games against a barcode smurf account?


There was only 10 point difference between Top 18 and Top 8. Assuming the accusations are true, DNS got 27 points from those 3 games and he would have been in rank 19 if he did not get those points.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
April 08 2016 14:26 GMT
#52
On April 08 2016 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
StarCraft 2016: Best players banned from competing internationally, formerly irrelevant players cheat the fuck out of the system.

Acknowledge the system by adopting new meaning of the WCS letters.
Welfare
Circus
Series



This is so good I;m so much smiling
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 14:28:33
April 08 2016 14:27 GMT
#53
This is why we need kespa to take over the foreign scene


though i'm not gonna lie, the first thought that went through my head when reading the thread title is "marinelord has korean origins?"

edit:

ps deacon, i disagreed with you in the kespa thread but i'm agreeing with you right now. wcs welfare is a fucking joke with joke players who don't know what it means to compete

"win-trading" is also just a pretty word for match-fixing btw
maru lover forever
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
April 08 2016 14:27 GMT
#54
On April 08 2016 23:21 Elentos wrote:
Lovely.
https://twitter.com/InvasionMajor/status/718433647108329473
Just lovely.



well tbh Bly is the guy that would lead you to think FireCake is a nice fellow
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2746 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 14:36:34
April 08 2016 14:28 GMT
#55
Still, as a french, I would like to have more elements on Mlord disqualification...
edit: And what about this: http://imgur.com/85B2CjR This qualification system sucks.

...
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-08 14:32:28
April 08 2016 14:29 GMT
#56
On April 08 2016 23:26 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
StarCraft 2016: Best players banned from competing internationally, formerly irrelevant players cheat the fuck out of the system.

Acknowledge the system by adopting new meaning of the WCS letters.
Welfare
Circus
Series



This is so good I;m so much smiling

The sad thing is: if I wouldn't care, I would just stop visiting teamliquid.net. I care so much since I loved this game and devoted so much play time and viewing time to it. What this game has become, what the WCS series has become just makes me sad. It's like watching an old friend die slowly from a wound that his father inflicted. It's so ironic that the foreign scene gets gifted a whole tournament series and keeps shitting on it by balance whining, and, in this case, cheating. I still cheer for the likes of guys like Snute that devote a lot to the game in a great manner but there's so much toxicity and salt in the foreign player base that it's fucking unbearable.

MMA's retirement precisely marks the point where I lost absolute (positive) interest in StarCraft II.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
April 08 2016 14:30 GMT
#57
On April 08 2016 23:25 Gwavajuice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:17 sAsImre wrote:
On April 08 2016 23:15 Gwavajuice wrote:
On April 08 2016 23:11 SNSeigifried wrote:
Well it wasn't on his main account because this is MarineLorD's match history.+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And these would be the 3 games he played vs a barcode terran went 2-1.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]




really, that's all they would have? a 2-1 serie with fast (I suppose all in) games against a barcode smurf account?


1 all in, 1 normal game and a lose for DNS. The all in is a 3g double zealot into adepts without msc/warp gates.



Okay, so I call it bullshit. The ladder race as it is designed is forcing palyers into crazy all-in short games, cause they need a lot of victory in a a very small amount of time. There is no way you go for a late game plan in this context.

Good luck then finding out which, of all the <5 mins games there must have been yesterday, are the ones where the looser didn't put enough effort into trying to stay in game.

You can't just take a random game like this and disqualify 2 players, just because you fell like to.

edit : typo and punctuation to try and make it clearer.


Remember that they've access to way more information that we do. Based on the historic it looks ok, maybe the replays/logs are telling a way different story.
Zest fanboy.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 08 2016 14:31 GMT
#58
On April 08 2016 23:29 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2016 23:26 deacon.frost wrote:
On April 08 2016 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
StarCraft 2016: Best players banned from competing internationally, formerly irrelevant players cheat the fuck out of the system.

Acknowledge the system by adopting new meaning of the WCS letters.
Welfare
Circus
Series



This is so good I;m so much smiling

The sad thing is: if I wouldn't care, I would just stop visiting teamliquid.net. I care so much since I loved this game and devoted so much play time and viewing time to it. What this game has become, what the WCS series has become just makes me sad. It's like watching an old friend die slowly from a wound that his father inflicted.


just watch the korean scene, that's the right one when it comes to starcraft

blizzard killed off the foreigner scene
maru lover forever
LemonyTang
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom428 Posts
April 08 2016 14:31 GMT
#59
Ya. welfare circus series goes on and on with useless drama meanwhile we have only 4 individual tournaments in korea this year. four.

seriously, just 4. and only 8 koreans go to Blizzcon. Embarrassing
Mvp #1
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 08 2016 14:31 GMT
#60
cheaters gonna cheat
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