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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 28 2016 04:36 GMT
#41
Thanks!

Though it won't be the same as Azubu.
Growiel
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)363 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 05:33:23
January 28 2016 05:32 GMT
#42
Everybody is rejoicing but I kinda feel bad. Ding-it is a business, doing this gives them nothing except maybe easing the hate on them.

They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky.

As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great.
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walsh_walsh
Profile Joined November 2013
United States200 Posts
January 28 2016 06:31 GMT
#43
Ultimately, they still have to actually deliver a good product. And there seems to be significantly amount of delusion among DingIt's managers about what kind of streaming services would be acceptable to people today.
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 28 2016 06:33 GMT
#44
On January 28 2016 14:32 Growiel wrote:
Everybody is rejoicing but I kinda feel bad. Ding-it is a business, doing this gives them nothing except maybe easing the hate on them.

They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky.

As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great.


No matter what it is their fault. They had this issue with the CS:GO fans because of the .exe and now a plugin requirement to view. They heard the feedback that the viewers DO NOT want to have any plugin or anything as a requirement to view the stream. They failed to comply, so they must bear the consequences.

Although I think the community did take it too far, they could have just install a small free linux VM with only chrome browser and the plugin, watch the stream there if they fear a malware or anything and then shut it down.
rednusa
Profile Joined October 2012
651 Posts
January 28 2016 06:50 GMT
#45
So it's not being broadcast on twitch? Will there be any kind of VODs available after the broadcast?
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 28 2016 07:29 GMT
#46
On January 28 2016 07:16 Mistakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 06:53 Dana44 wrote:
is there a SINGLE person who likes dingit more than twitch? why the hell cant we watch ssl on twitch


I'm glad they did this actually. It's super easy to stream on twitch, but I've heard some real shitty things about them as a company. Anything to get away from Twitch I'm all for.

Except downloading random software from an unknown source that wants a lot of rights.
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SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 28 2016 07:31 GMT
#47
On January 28 2016 14:32 Growiel wrote:
Everybody is rejoicing but I kinda feel bad. Ding-it is a business, doing this gives them nothing except maybe easing the hate on them.

They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky.

As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great.

That's what you get for not addapting to your audience though. This is not their first failed experiment.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
January 28 2016 08:04 GMT
#48
On January 28 2016 16:31 SC2Toastie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 14:32 Growiel wrote:
Everybody is rejoicing but I kinda feel bad. Ding-it is a business, doing this gives them nothing except maybe easing the hate on them.

They won't get one cent from the move and yet they still paid for the sponsorship, not Youtube... I doubt they will be investing more in SC2 following this net lose. Sucks to lose a sponsor. Maybe they got some understanding where whatever money is generated via Youtube goes to them to make the situation a little less sucky.

As a viewer though, I, too, am happy but I can't help feeling that us bullying them in giving up isn't all that great.

That's what you get for not addapting to your audience though. This is not their first failed experiment.

Also they can still agree with SPOTV to place there some of their adds to get some revenue from the stream itself, even if it is on Youtube.
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 08:30:49
January 28 2016 08:29 GMT
#49
It might be a bad thing for the pro scene if they don't invest more money, but honestly i don't give a damn. Their "revolutionary" plugin is actually prehistoric. Some of the most used plugins supported by basically all browsers were flash and java and both are on their way out fast. Even their creator companies don't want other people to use them.
I know what UDP/TCP is and how their plugin could help. But as many people said before, there is no justification for an end user to install a plugin to watch a stream in 2016. Even if it is not an adware or malware, it is a glorified way for them to bypass adblock at best.

I sincerely hope their company goes under and they leave sc2 scene for good.
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Arvendilin
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany1878 Posts
January 28 2016 08:54 GMT
#50
Well I guess this will be the last season SSL is sponsored by DingIt :/

The community really overreacted on this, especially reddit, but I guess it can't be helped
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MASSIEVE_SLANG
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium13 Posts
January 28 2016 09:07 GMT
#51
Here is the link to the YouTube stream, if you don't want to mess with plugins or anything.
SC2Toastie
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
Netherlands5725 Posts
January 28 2016 09:27 GMT
#52
On January 28 2016 17:54 Arvendilin wrote:
Well I guess this will be the last season SSL is sponsored by DingIt :/

The community really overreacted on this, especially reddit, but I guess it can't be helped

Reddit overreacted? Tell me more.
Mura Ma Man, Dark Da Dude, Super Shot Sos!
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 28 2016 09:29 GMT
#53
On January 28 2016 17:54 Arvendilin wrote:
Well I guess this will be the last season SSL is sponsored by DingIt :/

The community really overreacted on this, especially reddit, but I guess it can't be helped

No. For one of the first times in history, the community actually reacted correctly. I'm quite proud. Thanks to DingIt for recognizing their product is sub-par, now you know what you need to do : come back with something that's actually decent, and not shady-looking.
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Pughy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Wales662 Posts
January 28 2016 09:32 GMT
#54
Since no one posted it and we're 3 pages in (seriously, wtf)


https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV and click live stream to watch on YT


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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
January 28 2016 09:34 GMT
#55
On January 28 2016 18:32 Pughy wrote:
Since no one posted it and we're 3 pages in (seriously, wtf)


https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV and click live stream to watch on YT




On January 28 2016 18:07 MASSIEVE_SLANG wrote:
Here is the link to the YouTube stream, if you don't want to mess with plugins or anything.


There was a post actually
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28529 Posts
January 28 2016 09:35 GMT
#56
On January 28 2016 18:32 Pughy wrote:
Since no one posted it and we're 3 pages in (seriously, wtf)


https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV and click live stream to watch on YT



It was posted in this thread alone at least 2 times
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Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
January 28 2016 09:52 GMT
#57
Somehow they have over 3 times viewership of youtube on Dingit though. They might convince SPOTV into exclusive streams again by saying something like "viewership is increasing steadily every week"
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africola
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany35 Posts
January 28 2016 09:58 GMT
#58
I just compared 720p on youTube live with the DingIt "HD+" (whatever this means..) on my 55" TV screen (4K) with 200Mbit/s located in germany.

Everytime the camera is moving (and it is very often in a gaming stream) there is serious shading on DingIt and it's just not what you call true 1080p quality. Maybe it is 1080p, maybe it is 60fps but it doesnt appear like it for sure. More like 480p.

So @madals: I read through your long post last week and I followed your arguments as they theoretically actually make sense. But words is the one thing, as the product DingIt is delivering, despite having the contra of the extra Plugin to install, isn't really nice at all and doesn't give the user a good viewing experience at all.

Sorry to say as I support new approaches to streaming, but you actually need to improve A LOT.
Pughy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Wales662 Posts
January 28 2016 09:58 GMT
#59
On January 28 2016 18:35 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2016 18:32 Pughy wrote:
Since no one posted it and we're 3 pages in (seriously, wtf)


https://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV and click live stream to watch on YT



It was posted in this thread alone at least 2 times


I apologize, I went through again and saw a post which had it linked as hyper link as 'sure' and i was going through super fast looking for an obvious link (I googled, found the YT and clicked a away thinking it was a normal YT because it looks the same as a normal page but Tasteless tweeted it so I found it there) and I thought I would make it obvious for people looking for it.

Little wasted as well so shot straight through the comments looking for a link.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-28 10:06:41
January 28 2016 10:05 GMT
#60
On January 28 2016 06:53 Dana44 wrote:
is there a SINGLE person who likes dingit more than twitch? why the hell cant we watch ssl on twitch


Youtube streams are far superior from twitch for a viewer. Never a lag, perfect quality and bandwith.

Dingit i can say. It never works for me. (didn't try a lot though)
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