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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 27 2016 04:55 GMT
#41
On January 27 2016 13:50 iamkaokao wrote:
RIP Life career .. afreeca team has a really weak roster.. Keen , Alive , billowy ,super ? thats all confirmed average players at best ...there is no support , really sad , specially since sc2 is in such state..


aLive is one of only 3 Terrans to make it into SSL this season, along with ByuN and INno. I'm not sure he's that average anymore. And you conveniently left out Bomber and Curious.
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
January 27 2016 04:58 GMT
#42
I mean, Life isn't great in team leagues, but wtf.

I guess KT got pressured into doing it by KeSPA to make Proleague more competitive. At least that's an explanation I can live with
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 27 2016 04:58 GMT
#43
I personally don't like that change because i like Life and KT haha
But sure, for KT it might not have a negative impact on spl, i can see that.
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iamkaokao
Profile Joined March 2011
108 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 05:02:08
January 27 2016 05:01 GMT
#44
On January 27 2016 13:55 pure.Wasted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 13:50 iamkaokao wrote:
RIP Life career .. afreeca team has a really weak roster.. Keen , Alive , billowy ,super ? thats all confirmed average players at best ...there is no support , really sad , specially since sc2 is in such state..


aLive is one of only 3 Terrans to make it into SSL this season, along with ByuN and INno. I'm not sure he's that average anymore. And you conveniently left out Bomber and Curious.



yes i know i was showing the weak part of the team" , still even with a fresh game to xploit , and peak of thoseyou mention , those players arent capable of going far in proleague.. just beign honest . we know they can beat top players and sometimes make deep runs every 2 or 3 years.. but thats not enough to be competitive in proleague
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
January 27 2016 05:04 GMT
#45
As far as I know, the level of practice partners don't matter. I remember all of the best BW players like Flash and Jaedong had super mediocre practice parnters.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
January 27 2016 05:04 GMT
#46
Da fuck?
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8240 Posts
January 27 2016 05:07 GMT
#47
Why did KT accept that trade? What the....
pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
January 27 2016 05:09 GMT
#48
On January 27 2016 14:04 stuchiu wrote:
As far as I know, the level of practice partners don't matter. I remember all of the best BW players like Flash and Jaedong had super mediocre practice parnters.


Well I don't know if Flash and Jaedong being Flash and Jaedong proves that mediocre practice partners are literally equal to great practice partners...
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The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 27 2016 05:14 GMT
#49
On January 27 2016 14:04 stuchiu wrote:
As far as I know, the level of practice partners don't matter. I remember all of the best BW players like Flash and Jaedong had super mediocre practice parnters.

I remember Bisu saying that he played against some random zerg and lost and then found out it was JD, so i guess they also played online (fish server maybe?)
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fronkschnonk
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany622 Posts
January 27 2016 05:16 GMT
#50
Really surprised but then it makes sense when you think about it.

Afreecs look quite good now. Alive looks promising so far, Keen did quite ok (as always), Life can be a beast if he wants to (he was valuable in proleague for startale before) and curious got significantly better last year. Even Billowy and Super are solid (resultwise at least ^^) and they have two of the very few real rookies on their team.
Furthermore, I consider that some kind of Code A must be reestablished.
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
January 27 2016 05:16 GMT
#51
I agree with pretty much everybody... what?

Perhaps Life didn't like the KT environment, but seems like KT's roster isn't strong enough to simply hand over an ace caliber player.
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
January 27 2016 05:20 GMT
#52
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-27 05:24:36
January 27 2016 05:21 GMT
#53
I guess joining KT was just a vacation for Life.

And if Life was transferred at Afreeca's request, I say why? Life's never been that great at Proleague anyway, they'd have been better off taking an ace from SKT instead of Life.
Solar424
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
United States4001 Posts
January 27 2016 05:21 GMT
#54
Life really started to underperform in individual leagues once he joined KT, so it was likely he wasn't a fan of their practice environment. I just hope he doesn't end up like PartinG and gets blocked from playing in Proleague. Not too familiar with KeSPA's weird transfer rules.
WidowMineHero
Profile Joined September 2014
New Zealand143 Posts
January 27 2016 05:22 GMT
#55
why would kt let go of life?
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12414 Posts
January 27 2016 05:22 GMT
#56
Wow this is pretty huge, I follow players rather than team but wow at the team changes
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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
January 27 2016 05:25 GMT
#57
makes sense, honestly. Leenock has always been a good team league player. presumably he can fit in with KT. meanwhile afreeca gets the star to put in front of their brand, and take the gamble that Life can be in team leagues what he is in individual leagues.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 27 2016 05:25 GMT
#58
On January 27 2016 14:01 iamkaokao wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2016 13:55 pure.Wasted wrote:
On January 27 2016 13:50 iamkaokao wrote:
RIP Life career .. afreeca team has a really weak roster.. Keen , Alive , billowy ,super ? thats all confirmed average players at best ...there is no support , really sad , specially since sc2 is in such state..


aLive is one of only 3 Terrans to make it into SSL this season, along with ByuN and INno. I'm not sure he's that average anymore. And you conveniently left out Bomber and Curious.



yes i know i was showing the weak part of the team" , still even with a fresh game to xploit , and peak of thoseyou mention , those players arent capable of going far in proleague.. just beign honest . we know they can beat top players and sometimes make deep runs every 2 or 3 years.. but thats not enough to be competitive in proleague

should have named Bomber if you were talking about weak players then
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Keeemy
Profile Joined November 2012
Finland7855 Posts
January 27 2016 05:31 GMT
#59
ASD WHAAAAAAAAAT

Just watched the KT Proleague teaser yesterday lol.

Welp this is interesting.
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Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
January 27 2016 05:33 GMT
#60
Jesus Christ what a terrible move!
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