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[SPL '15] Finals Lineup

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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
October 06 2015 08:32 GMT
#1

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Saturday, Oct 10 9:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)

SK Telecom T1 vs Jin Air Green Wings

(T)Sorry < Coda > (T)Cure
(T)Dream < Echo > (T)Maru
(Z)soO < Iron Fortress > (P)Pigbaby
(T)INnoVation < Vaani Research Station > (P)sOs
(Z)Dark < Terraform > (Z)Rogue
(P)Classic < Cactus Valley > (P)Trap

Ace:
Coda



Source: KeSPA Proleague Facebook Page
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
October 06 2015 08:19 GMT
#2
Hyped for Innovation vs sOs.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 06 2015 08:21 GMT
#3
Pandemona won by about 40 s and yet he managed to have a nicer layout!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 06 2015 08:25 GMT
#4
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/496093-spl-skt-t1-vs-jin-air-line-ups-revealed
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 06 2015 08:32 GMT
#5
This was newsed first and posted in first. This thread stays up.
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
October 06 2015 08:39 GMT
#6
Staff bias!

To repeat my thoughts from the other thread, SKT is disgusting in Bo7 matches. However I think this went really, really well for JinAir as almost all of the matchups are somewhat doable and Maru/sOs/Rogue are not "lost" on weaker players (if I can even used that expression for SKT).
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 08:40:08
October 06 2015 08:39 GMT
#7
Sorry, soO, Rogue & Classic should be favoured, other two are 50/50
I think for SKT to lose this, INno would have to go 0-2 and I don't see that happening
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NobleNyne
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany39 Posts
October 06 2015 08:43 GMT
#8
Hyped for Dream vs Maruuuuuw!
i luv u
Damnitmynameistaken
Profile Joined May 2015
United States187 Posts
October 06 2015 08:44 GMT
#9
SKT wins. Jin Air will always be the Kong of Proleague.
Estraizher
Profile Joined December 2014
289 Posts
October 06 2015 08:49 GMT
#10
Might go to the ace match but i hope the best for Jin Air! That INno vs sOs though
~
Korakys
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
New Zealand272 Posts
October 06 2015 08:49 GMT
#11
The chances are looking good for an ace match. Hype!
Swing away sOs, swing away.
Diabolique
Profile Joined June 2015
Czech Republic5118 Posts
October 06 2015 08:59 GMT
#12
Damned, too many mirror matches ...
Dream vs Maru ... I am really afraid ... that Dream

Probably Soo and Classic ez-pz ...

So for us to come to an ace match, sOs has to win (realistic), Rogue (manageable) and Cure (difficult).

sOs was playing Innovation at MSI MGA ...no problem ... but Dark vs Rogue will be siiiick!!!
sOs | Rogue | Maru | Trap | Scarlett | Snute | MC
Durnuu
Profile Joined September 2013
13322 Posts
October 06 2015 09:02 GMT
#13
Pretty good match-ups for Jin Air, I'm scared
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gneGne
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands697 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 09:08:02
October 06 2015 09:07 GMT
#14
I honestly have no clue who wins this. sOs might continue his streak, even against Innovation. Dream vs Maru, they are evenly matched, but we haven't seen much of Dream lately, etc. etc. All these matchups have huge question marks hovering over them. Exciting!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 09:13:07
October 06 2015 09:12 GMT
#15
calling out on bias, #pandemonawasfirst
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digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
October 06 2015 09:18 GMT
#16
Sorry > Cure
Dream < Maru
soO > Pigbaby
INnoVation > sOs
Dark > Rogue

SKT 4-1
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5616 Posts
October 06 2015 09:21 GMT
#17
Wings 4-1 or 4-2. Better luck next year with new players, SKT!
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 06 2015 09:25 GMT
#18
Dream vs Maru should be a treat.
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TwinsOuo
Profile Joined June 2015
15 Posts
October 06 2015 09:27 GMT
#19
Hi guys. I wonder if anyone of you could explain me the rules of the "matchmaking". Do both the teams just create a list from 1-6 and and then 1.vs.1, 2.vs 2. etc. or do they or the SPL have any influence in the matchmaking? Thx!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 06 2015 09:36 GMT
#20
On October 06 2015 18:27 OuO wrote:
Hi guys. I wonder if anyone of you could explain me the rules of the "matchmaking". Do both the teams just create a list from 1-6 and and then 1.vs.1, 2.vs 2. etc. or do they or the SPL have any influence in the matchmaking? Thx!

They're given the map order then blind pick players.
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
October 06 2015 09:37 GMT
#21
4-1 to Jin Air. soO only one to win for SKT.
Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
October 06 2015 09:39 GMT
#22
JAGW has a shot!!
Maru | Dark | Zest | Reynor | Scarlett
MarianoSC2
Profile Joined June 2015
Slovakia1855 Posts
October 06 2015 10:05 GMT
#23
Sorry > Cure
Dream < Maru
soO > Pigbaby
INnoVation < sOs
Dark < Rogue
Classic> Trap

Ace = INnoVation < sOs

Jin Air wins 4:3
Top 11: Rogue, Maru, Inno, Zest, Life, sOs, Stats, Dark, soO, Mvp, Classic/Trap/MC/Rain
elmerpogs
Profile Joined August 2011
Philippines441 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 10:30:40
October 06 2015 10:30 GMT
#24
SK Telecom T1 4 vs 0 Jin Air Green Wings
SKT [img]http://i.imgur.com/1NuGXvx.png[/img] is still the best [img]http://i.imgur.com/MsxcOXX.png[/img]
Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 06 2015 11:18 GMT
#25
I don't like this final line up =(
To many mirrors...
GOGO SKT
INno <3 - TY - Maru - Taeja - Rain <3 - Classic <3 - Stephano <3 - soO <3 - Soulkey - Dark - SERRAL =O / END REGION LOCK
TwinsOuo
Profile Joined June 2015
15 Posts
October 06 2015 11:36 GMT
#26
On October 06 2015 18:36 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2015 18:27 OuO wrote:
Hi guys. I wonder if anyone of you could explain me the rules of the "matchmaking". Do both the teams just create a list from 1-6 and and then 1.vs.1, 2.vs 2. etc. or do they or the SPL have any influence in the matchmaking? Thx!

They're given the map order then blind pick players.


Thx!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
October 06 2015 11:40 GMT
#27
SKT time to show the whole world why you're the best team in the world!!!
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
October 06 2015 11:58 GMT
#28
Hypeeeee
FlaSh MMA INnoVation FanTaSy MKP TY Ryung | soO Dark Rogue | HuK PartinG Stork State
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
October 06 2015 12:24 GMT
#29
Such sick matchups ! I think Jin Air will win the first two maps, then soO wins, then it's all on INno vs sOs. INno wins, shit goes to ace. sOs wins, it's a 4-1.
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Darkdwarf
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Sweden960 Posts
October 06 2015 12:50 GMT
#30
Sorry > Cure
Dream < Maru
soO > Pigbaby
INnoVation > sOs
Dark < Rogue
Classic > Trap

SKT 4 > 2 JAGW
Teams: IM, Jin Air, Invictus || Players: Maru, GuMiho, INnoVation, Ryung, sOs, Squirtle, NaNiwa, Has, Zoun, Life, Rogue, Dark
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 06 2015 13:12 GMT
#31
That's some serious business. I feel like Jin Air got some pretty good draws overall, they might be able to do it.
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TW
Profile Joined March 2012
Poland255 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 13:53:21
October 06 2015 13:47 GMT
#32
Seems pretty doable for JAGW ...
Remember, SKT got soO, so it is like 95% their're gonna lose finals.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 06 2015 14:10 GMT
#33
sOs and Rogue/sOs have to beat inno twice or its over.

(T)Sorry > (T)Cure
(T)Dream < (T)Maru
(Z)soO > (P)Pigbaby
(T)INnoVation < (P)sOs
(Z)Dark < (Z)Rogue
(P)Classic > (P)Trap
(T)INnoVation < (P)sOs
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
October 06 2015 15:00 GMT
#34
I think Jin Air got the better end of matchups, its quite close still. Just hoping for good games!
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royalroadweed
Profile Joined April 2013
United States8301 Posts
October 06 2015 15:10 GMT
#35
I think Jin Air's got this. I'm surprised that Jin Air quest for PL gold isn't a storyline after getting silver in 3 of the 4 rounds.
"Nerfing Toss can just make them stronger"
Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
October 06 2015 15:43 GMT
#36
The time is upon us.
Hoping for an epic 7 games. Last year's Grand Finals were pretty lackluster. Each game looks very hard to call (other than soO wrecking).
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
jubil
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States2602 Posts
October 06 2015 16:00 GMT
#37
I'm feeling a Jin Air upset! They came so far and have been really impressive so far, their momentum might just carry the day.
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MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
October 06 2015 16:08 GMT
#38
On October 07 2015 00:43 Orr wrote:
The time is upon us.
Hoping for an epic 7 games. Last year's Grand Finals were pretty lackluster. Each game looks very hard to call (other than soO wrecking).

Rain vs Zest was one-sided in Rain's favor
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 16:09:27
October 06 2015 16:09 GMT
#39
On October 06 2015 22:47 TW wrote:
Seems pretty doable for JAGW ...
Remember, SKT got soO, so it is like 95% their're gonna lose finals.

yeah but Jin Air IS the soO of 2015 Proleague
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
October 06 2015 16:20 GMT
#40
skt 4-0
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Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
October 06 2015 16:35 GMT
#41
We can do it, Jin Air.
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
October 06 2015 16:36 GMT
#42
Looks pretty even
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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#43
I'm really surprised sorry is player 6, I think it was obvious that the other 5 would be there but I'm surprised Billowy/Impact weren't the final guy
Carminedust
Profile Joined October 2014
487 Posts
October 06 2015 16:53 GMT
#44
Skt gots this 4-2 soo innovation dark and classic will win it ... unless classic gets cheesed in game 6 again like last year xD
Maybe was Zoun only Fan before he retired idk
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-06 17:06:36
October 06 2015 17:05 GMT
#45
Sorry > Cure
Dream > Maru
soO > Pigbaby
INnoVation < sOs
Dark < Rogue
Classic > Trap

SKT 4-2 Jin Air
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
October 06 2015 17:15 GMT
#46
soO vs Pigbaby is really mismatched, but the others should be really entertaining.

Looking forward to this.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
October 06 2015 17:15 GMT
#47
sOs vs innovation will obviously decide the outcome of that final
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Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
October 06 2015 17:17 GMT
#48
On October 07 2015 01:08 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 00:43 Orr wrote:
The time is upon us.
Hoping for an epic 7 games. Last year's Grand Finals were pretty lackluster. Each game looks very hard to call (other than soO wrecking).

Rain vs Zest was one-sided in Rain's favor


Rain was slightly favored but it was close to a coin flip going in. And Rain ended up winning. So no idea what your point is. Nowhere near the skill difference between soO/Pigbaby. Not even accounting for the map (Iron Fortress) which further slants it in soO's favor.
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
October 06 2015 17:19 GMT
#49
Cure > Sorry
Maru > Dream
Pigbaby > soO
sOs < Innovation
Rogue < Dark
Trap < Classic

Ace
Rogue > Innovation

Personally I feel these matchups are favorable for SKT though. Dark is only one I would favor against Rogue. Inno vs sOs is also favorable for SKT, Classic vs Trap as well. The only good draws for jin air would be Pigbaby vs soO(Pigbaby gets a decent shot) and Maru vs Dream. Cure vs Sorry is a tossup
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FanaticCZ
Profile Joined December 2011
Czech Republic287 Posts
October 06 2015 19:20 GMT
#50
I like that Classic might be playing in the last set of the season for the third time in a row. Atm he is 1:1.

SKT for the win this time!
INnoVation is the GOAT!
Yakikorosu
Profile Joined March 2013
1203 Posts
October 06 2015 19:52 GMT
#51
I feel like the huge wildcard here is Cure vs. Sorry. Cure hasn't looked great recently and we've not seen Sorry in a long time. I think if Cure can take it, Jin Air has a good chance of at least taking it to an ace match, but if Sorry wins, we're looking at SKT winning 4-1 or 4-2.
BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
October 06 2015 20:08 GMT
#52
(T)Sorry < Coda > (T)Cure
(T)Dream < Echo > (T)Maru
(Z)soO < Iron Fortress > (P)Pigbaby
(T)INnoVation < Vaani Research Station > (P)sOs
(Z)Dark < Terraform > (Z)Rogue
(P)Classic < Cactus Valley > (P)Trap
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BeStFAN
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
483 Posts
October 06 2015 20:09 GMT
#53
On October 07 2015 02:05 MiniFotToss wrote:
Sorry > Cure
Dream > Maru
soO > Pigbaby
INnoVation < sOs
Dark < Rogue
Classic > Trap

SKT 4-2 Jin Air


yes
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
October 06 2015 20:19 GMT
#54
The timing couldn't be better...Columbus Day weekend! It's been a while since I've been able to see an event during the live broadcast, I'm very excited.
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Ace Frehley
Profile Joined December 2012
2030 Posts
October 06 2015 23:40 GMT
#55
The matches look really balanced, except for Pigbaby vs SoO
...
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
October 07 2015 00:41 GMT
#56
On October 07 2015 05:09 BeStFAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 02:05 MiniFotToss wrote:
Sorry > Cure
Dream > Maru
soO > Pigbaby
INnoVation < sOs
Dark < Rogue
Classic > Trap

SKT 4-2 Jin Air


yes

High Five, MAH MAN!!!!!
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 07 2015 01:46 GMT
#57
On October 07 2015 02:15 Makro wrote:
sOs vs innovation will obviously decide the outcome of that final

you mean their first game or the ace? Either way the statement is legitimate.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 07 2015 01:47 GMT
#58
On October 07 2015 08:40 Ace Frehley wrote:
The matches look really balanced, except for Pigbaby vs SoO

Dream despite being an Anti-Life and sick TvP is horrendous at TvT (despite momentary flashes of brilliance)
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
20-Minute-Jackal
Profile Joined May 2015
United States336 Posts
October 07 2015 02:48 GMT
#59
On October 06 2015 21:24 OtherWorld wrote:
Such sick matchups ! I think Jin Air will win the first two maps, then soO wins, then it's all on INno vs sOs. INno wins, shit goes to ace. sOs wins, it's a 4-1.

I think your math is a little off there friend, how can a Bo7 series go to ace match with only 5 games played?
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 07 2015 03:04 GMT
#60
On October 06 2015 17:44 Damnitmynameistaken wrote:
SKT wins. Jin Air will always be the Kong of Proleague.

so rude, lets go skill wings! break teh curse!
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
October 07 2015 05:25 GMT
#61
Looking at the matches,4-2 for SKT.
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Boanerges
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland156 Posts
October 07 2015 08:04 GMT
#62
So whoever wins this wins it all? No second round all kill format and 3 round?

Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
October 07 2015 14:36 GMT
#63
On October 07 2015 17:04 Boanerges wrote:
So whoever wins this wins it all? No second round all kill format and 3 round?



Yup. Much better this way. Ultimate hype and insane pressure on every single player fielded.
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 07 2015 16:03 GMT
#64
On October 07 2015 17:04 Boanerges wrote:
So whoever wins this wins it all? No second round all kill format and 3 round?


Yup, apparently is generates hype, so if someone fucks up, even if they would have all killed on day 2, thats okay because it is hype or something
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Orr
Profile Joined February 2014
United States168 Posts
October 07 2015 22:14 GMT
#65
On October 08 2015 01:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 17:04 Boanerges wrote:
So whoever wins this wins it all? No second round all kill format and 3 round?


Yup, apparently is generates hype, so if someone fucks up, even if they would have all killed on day 2, thats okay because it is hype or something


Your logic is absurd and shows a lack of depth. There's very few redo's in life for anyone. You could hypothesize forever about how any outcome could have been different if there was always another chance afterwards. And you'll always be left wondering 'what if'.

I like the BO3 matches for the quarters and semis. It helps ensure that the most deserving team makes it to the final. JAGW has clearly proven they are with a 4-0 record.

SKT left zero doubt that they were the dominant team during the entire 2015 Proleague season. And one of the most winning in any season ever.

It's a team league, not an individual one, so it's only fitting that the Grand Finals is a BO7, winner-take-all. For the top teams, a big part of the regular season is identifying (and cultivating) which 6 players will be able to withstand the pressure when it matters most in the season ending playoffs. Now is the ultimate test.
Flash I Jaedong I herO I Best I Maru I Rogue
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
October 07 2015 22:16 GMT
#66
On October 08 2015 01:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2015 17:04 Boanerges wrote:
So whoever wins this wins it all? No second round all kill format and 3 round?


Yup, apparently is generates hype, so if someone fucks up, even if they would have all killed on day 2, thats okay because it is hype or something


Bo3 finals in Brood War were usually pretty shit and not really worth the added cost of renting a venue for three days as opposed to one. Trial and error - if nothing else, KeSPA-related organizations have plenty of experience to draw from.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13996 Posts
October 08 2015 03:21 GMT
#67
On October 08 2015 07:16 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On October 07 2015 17:04 Boanerges wrote:
So whoever wins this wins it all? No second round all kill format and 3 round?


Yup, apparently is generates hype, so if someone fucks up, even if they would have all killed on day 2, thats okay because it is hype or something


Bo3 finals in Brood War were usually pretty shit and not really worth the added cost of renting a venue for three days as opposed to one. Trial and error - if nothing else, KeSPA-related organizations have plenty of experience to draw from.

I don't think I'm necessarily hating on the concept of a bo1 Finals so much as the playoffs structure (Bracket system > climb the ladder)
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Veluvian
Profile Joined December 2011
Bulgaria256 Posts
October 08 2015 07:37 GMT
#68
Innovation vs sOs - this could be the decisive match!
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hasubock
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany24 Posts
October 08 2015 22:24 GMT
#69
Omg, I am so hyped. JAGW is on fire and the matchups are great for them.

And I will be in the audience. Big shoutout to Chexx for making this possible!
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