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[S2SL] Ro4: The Fox and the Hound - S3 2015

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September 10th, 2015 02:06 GMT

The Fox and the Hound
Rain vs herO

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The Fox and the Hound



Man has a tendency to search for patterns. Whether they are there or not, our desire to organize our lives into easily digestible chunks of information ends up dictating how we perceive the world. It's called "apophenia"—it manifests itself in many ways—and it's a concept everyone is aware of even though the word may not be part of one's vocabulary. Our minds have become so accustomed to finding patterns that it's impossible to escape it. Yet even within our fabricated arrangements, there is bias.

One of the most prominent is our desire to group things in three—the Holy trinity, the rule of thirds, three strikes, the three-peat. It is only natural then, that in a game so obsessed with numbers, statistics, and rankings, that we've followed this tendency in how we rate our players. We have the triple crown (a premier title on three continents) and the golden mouse (three OSLs back in BW), for example. Very few players have ever achieved these milestones, and many of the players that have are counted among the greatest players of all time. This semifinal thus serves as an examination of our biases.

The Fox


For Rain, the quest for his Three would cement his place as one of the greatest. Even though esports is becoming more globalized over time, Korea remains the pinnacle of competition for Starcraft. What he could attain in the coming weeks will likely never be repeated: the triple Starleague crown.

Once upon a time, there was only GSL. Then, the OSL made two cameos. Now, SPOTV's Starcraft II Starleague has taken its place. These three Starleagues are and were considered the most difficult tournaments in the game; it is only natural that we we have hallowed the man that might conquer them all. With only two OSL champions so far—Rain and Maru—the list of candidates is evidently low. Maru is still some ways short; Rain is only two best of 7 series away. With no other OSLs on the horizon, these two men may be the only candidates to ever claim this feat.


This is my destiny.


However, where would we rank such an achievement compared to other mulit-time champions? NesTea triumphed over the GSL thrice, Life has won three GOMTV leagues among other titles, and TaeJa has won 5 DreamHacks. Does his achievement, spread out over three different leagues with essentially the same player pool and format, amount to more? Or would we weigh them as much as NesTea's three titles early in the history of SC2? More than likely, we will find a special name for it, and the legend will grow from there. It will be Rain's crowning achievement, should it happen, three years after his first title. At one point it seemed like it would never happen, but after finally ruling Code S last season, it now looks inevitable. Yet a familiar foe is his final hurdle to the final.

It has now become canon that Rain's return to prominence coincided with a growing wit and flexibility. Unfortunately, his PvP remains an Achilles's heel. Even though the predictable protoss now incorporates as many proxy oracles—especially on 4 player maps—as standard macro games, his mirror matchup has not benefited from his expanding repertoire of openings. The Rain of old manifests itself against his own race, as he prefers to play his standard, reactive style of protoss. He has lost a best of 7 against this opponent before, and the games went more or less as expected.

It seems, then, that a small part of the fox remains tamed, and it could be what prevents him from making history.

The Hound


For herO, his Three has done little to prove that he belongs in the pantheon of the greatest. He is the only three-time IEM champion, and he finally claimed his first Korean title this year. Yet the formula of his achievement does not even have a name, much less the respect that he had hoped it would receive.

It is difficult to fault those that doubt the stature of his titles, but at the same time, herO must feel aggrieved. He beat all that was put before him, including Rain in San Jose, and one can only beat who he's allowed to face. It is true that the brackets were weaker than Korean leagues, but we've come to understand that weekenders and weeklies both present their own unique challenges. INnoVation, for example, had failed at every foreign LAN until gamescom; just like Rain until Homestory Cup XI or Zest until IEM WC 2015. Many greater players had failed at the task herO had mastered, and yet we still look at his trophy cabinet with suspicion. herO's situation is the reverse: majesty overseas and misery at home.

All of that was supposed to change with KeSPA Cup Season 2, but his detractors parroted the same concerns—it was just another weekender and not a prepared league. herO had finally prevailed in Korea, but has more to do to convince his critics. TaeJa eventually swayed public opinion by beating all of the best in players at foreign tournaments, but he will forever be haunted by the spectre of his failure in Korea. herO knows that only a Code S or SSL title will finally earn him the respect he deserves, and he has failed at this point before.


After today, I will no longer be looking up.


Fortunately, all three of his IEM titles were won at the grave of another protoss, and he gets to play that matchup now. Even though his greatest heartbreak (against sOs at IEM WC) occurred the same way, it must give him some confidence knowing that he must now play this matchup with his tournament on the line. herO's doggedness with blink stalkers has become a symbol of his play, and his PvPs have become emblematic of his tendency to live and die by his control. He commits without hesitation where others would balk, and he embraces both shame and glory with his smile. Yet we have never questioned his ambition—only his refusal to scout—and we know that all the WCS points in the world mean nothing if his prize remains beyond his arm's reach.

Will herO forever have to chase his rabbit? It is now tantalizingly close, yet the arena of the semi finals has broken him twice already. Now, the fox stands in his way.




This series is just as meaningful for both, and it could determine who ends the year as the face of protoss for 2015. The two aces have naturally faced each other many times before, and herO leads their head-to-head 14-11 in maps. Stylistically, both players can be somewhat predictable, but herO has proven, 2gate aside, that he is quite adept at handling builds like proxy oracle. herO should try his best to turn this into a battle of blink skirmishes, while Rain should try to drag things beyond the useful life of stalkers. herO's third IEM title at Rain's expense mostly followed that script, and their approach to PvP has changed little during that time. It seems, then, that the patterns suggest the hound.

(P)Rain 3 - 4 (P)herO

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Writers: lichter.
Editors: lichter.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Photo: Shayla.
Stats: Aligulac

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JamesT
Profile Blog Joined October 2014
United States681 Posts
September 10 2015 02:15 GMT
#2
Yes, someone besides me has thought about the Triple Korean Starleague championship!
How are you doing today?
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
September 10 2015 02:16 GMT
#3
it could determine who ends the year as the face of protoss for 2015


Please be herO. Thx.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19231 Posts
September 10 2015 02:28 GMT
#4
Rain's achievements as a Protoss sound familiar... hmmmm
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Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 10 2015 02:36 GMT
#5
Leggo herO
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Where dat snitch at?37023 Posts
September 10 2015 03:39 GMT
#6
Come on Rain! Show the world that Classic isn't the only protoss player that can win both GSL and SSL!
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
September 10 2015 04:08 GMT
#7
IMO an SSL championship here would mean a lot more for herO than for Rain!

herO would finally have the "proven himself in Korea" seal, but I feel like Rain's "I have triple starleague championships" is no more than "I won 2 GSLs and a SSL" (which is no small feat at all! but the OSL adds nothing special besides the name).

As for the face of Protoss in 2015... if Rain wins he takes this title for sure, the only contender is Classic if he wins the current GSL.

Hoping for good games, I can't watch tomorrow so I'll rely on the LR polls... pls people vote consciously!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 10 2015 04:44 GMT
#8
Rain 4-2
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 10 2015 04:58 GMT
#9
On September 10 2015 13:08 Silvana wrote:
IMO an SSL championship here would mean a lot more for herO than for Rain!

herO would finally have the "proven himself in Korea" seal, but I feel like Rain's "I have triple starleague championships" is no more than "I won 2 GSLs and a SSL" (which is no small feat at all! but the OSL adds nothing special besides the name).

As for the face of Protoss in 2015... if Rain wins he takes this title for sure, the only contender is Classic if he wins the current GSL.

Hoping for good games, I can't watch tomorrow so I'll rely on the LR polls... pls people vote consciously!


PvP, you probably won't get many votes

Hanging out for the herO win myself, love seeing that dude winning :D
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 10 2015 05:05 GMT
#10
Rain 4-2
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
September 10 2015 05:06 GMT
#11
On September 10 2015 12:39 Seeker wrote:
Come on Rain! Show the world that Classic isn't the only protoss player that can win both GSL and SSL!

nah, Rain won a starleague already
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12387 Posts
September 10 2015 05:13 GMT
#12
Is the title a mgs reference?
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18401 Posts
September 10 2015 07:03 GMT
#13
herO has no chance to get into the final... :/
LongShot27
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United States2084 Posts
September 10 2015 07:23 GMT
#14
How do people think herO is going to beat Rain
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South Africa7387 Posts
September 10 2015 07:31 GMT
#15
Go Rain!
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 10 2015 07:36 GMT
#16
I was right last night in GSL so this will probably be Rain 4-0
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 10 2015 08:17 GMT
#17
On September 10 2015 16:23 LongShot27 wrote:
How do people think herO is going to beat Rain


Copious amounts of Inca prayers.
LongShot27
Profile Joined May 2013
United States2084 Posts
September 10 2015 08:20 GMT
#18
On September 10 2015 17:17 Phredxor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 16:23 LongShot27 wrote:
How do people think herO is going to beat Rain


Copious amounts of Inca prayers.


If Rain loses to 4 blink stalker all-in's he needs to retire immediately
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-10 08:27:18
September 10 2015 08:26 GMT
#19
I thought Rain's PvP was quite weak compared to the best, but during group selections he said he felt the most confident against protoss.

herO's PvP is up there with the very best - BUT he needs to stop trying to kill people with blink stalkers when he gets advantageous builds. It doesn't work against the best of the best, and it absolutely won't work against someone as defensively adept as Rain. Aside from that and scouting his base, herO's actually got pretty good PvP now.

I'm thinking herO 4-2
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Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 10 2015 08:28 GMT
#20
On September 10 2015 17:20 LongShot27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 17:17 Phredxor wrote:
On September 10 2015 16:23 LongShot27 wrote:
How do people think herO is going to beat Rain


Copious amounts of Inca prayers.


If Rain loses to 4 blink stalker all-in's he needs to retire immediately


I could live with that.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 10 2015 08:34 GMT
#21
Will the finals be held where proleague last year was held? Or again in the same studio?
Phredxor
Profile Joined May 2013
New Zealand15076 Posts
September 10 2015 08:35 GMT
#22
On September 10 2015 17:34 WrathSCII wrote:
Will the finals be held where proleague last year was held? Or again in the same studio?


I heard someone (Wolf?) talking about it being at PL finals venue. Should be sick.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
September 10 2015 08:40 GMT
#23
Frank en Frey!
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[16thSq] Kuro
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
1214 Posts
September 10 2015 09:02 GMT
#24
Found a typo:
These three Starleagues are and were considered the most difficult tournaments in the game; it is only natural that we we have hallowed the man that might conquer them all.


Pretty nice preview. Go herO!
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5586 Posts
September 10 2015 09:06 GMT
#25
Topi ja Tessu!
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MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
September 10 2015 09:09 GMT
#26
Sorry but I am confused. Which are the three big competitions these days? Is it GSL, SSL and WCS? (Haven't followed the scene for quite a while). Is SSL the successor of OSL or a league on its own?
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
September 10 2015 09:41 GMT
#27
On September 10 2015 18:09 MapleLeafSirup wrote:
Sorry but I am confused. Which are the three big competitions these days? Is it GSL, SSL and WCS? (Haven't followed the scene for quite a while). Is SSL the successor of OSL or a league on its own?


A league of its own was created this year due to WCS region lock to help koreans advance to blizzcon.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
September 10 2015 09:48 GMT
#28
On September 10 2015 16:23 LongShot27 wrote:
How do people think herO is going to beat Rain

Rain is shit at pvp?
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Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
September 10 2015 11:56 GMT
#29
hero vs ty finals go!
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
September 10 2015 11:57 GMT
#30
Wtf is up with lichter's predictions this week? Stop it, you're making us look good
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18401 Posts
September 10 2015 11:59 GMT
#31
On September 10 2015 20:56 esdf wrote:
hero vs ty finals go!


Byul is on the other side ^^
esdf
Profile Joined December 2012
Croatia736 Posts
September 10 2015 12:27 GMT
#32
On September 10 2015 20:59 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 20:56 esdf wrote:
hero vs ty finals go!


Byul is on the other side ^^

yeah just noticed :D was on seaside and had no idea ty byul played already :|
why do you not believe it? the legend has alived!
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
September 10 2015 12:51 GMT
#33
On September 10 2015 20:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Wtf is up with lichter's predictions this week? Stop it, you're making us look good


the secret is to brag when you're right and then disappear when you're wrong
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MrMischelito
Profile Joined February 2014
347 Posts
September 10 2015 12:53 GMT
#34
On September 10 2015 16:36 lichter wrote:
I was right last night in GSL so this will probably be Rain 4-0

3 - 4! spot on prediction ;-)
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Profile Blog Joined January 2013
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September 10 2015 12:55 GMT
#35
feels like you wasted such a good title for a Smash preview
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