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Prime's roster is down to 3 players now
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TANGTANG to step down from pro gaming
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SetGuitarsToKill
Canada28396 Posts
May the memory of his fantastic name and the one time he beat Zest live on forever. Prime's roster is down to 3 players now BBoongBBoongYoDaKeeN
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KatatoniK
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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iSy92
Poland3 Posts
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DinosaurJones
United States1000 Posts
On September 03 2015 01:20 iSy92 wrote: The worst player in proleague I'm pretty sure that was B4 | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
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AnythingThenDelete
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TheLordofAwesome
Korea (South)2655 Posts
TANGTANG!!!!!!!!!!!! May your victory over Zest live on in glory. | ||
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KtJ
United States3514 Posts
YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED | ||
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Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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royalroadweed
United States8301 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
I heard somewhere that there is a huge clan beside the pro team in prime, so maybe they could pick the best players of it to continue | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
0-8 vs 1-14, honestly I don't know what's better. Even the word "better" seems out of place here. | ||
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ThePacifist
Korea (South)46 Posts
Tbh, It's very bad that lots of players to retire or consider to step back. These news make me to worry. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On September 03 2015 01:47 oGoZenob wrote: so prime can't continue in PL with only 3 players right ? I heard somewhere that there is a huge clan beside the pro team in prime, so maybe they could pick the best players of it to continue Well Proleague this year for them is over, so they have 3 months to sign someone and technically they still have the deal with Invictus so if the Chinese players come back they have 6 Plus there's always a remote chance ByuN comes back from his vision quest | ||
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Ja.Y.
United States253 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10682 Posts
On September 03 2015 01:20 iSy92 wrote: The worst player in proleague Take that back! GL TANGTANG TANG its a kick in the glass! You can do it buddy | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
What? | ||
Ctesias
4595 Posts
Should have credit for an awesome id, though. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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rotta
5593 Posts
I wonder who Prime will acquire, if anyone. Arthur, Oz, StarDust, Revival? | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On September 03 2015 02:20 Alucen-Will- wrote: I'm not sure whether to feel sorry for Prime or to assign blame at this point. I have a feeling the correct feeling is somewhere in the middle. Regardless of how we should feel about their performance something needs to be done. What? i dont really believe "coaching" or team environment matters that much, i mean sure its significant but at the end of the day there are only so many tier 1 players in the league and prime just has the lowest distribution of them short of magically having money to sign all the good free agents, i don't think there's really much blame to assign. they're a bad team with bad players, it happens in every sports league | ||
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8244 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
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REyeM
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Cricketer12
United States13988 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On September 03 2015 02:42 rotta wrote: Just one win away from being the 2nd worst... glhf! I wonder who Prime will acquire, if anyone. Arthur, Oz, StarDust, Revival? My thinking would be a partnership with Axiom. | ||
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Shuffleblade
Sweden1903 Posts
On September 03 2015 02:44 brickrd wrote: i dont really believe "coaching" or team environment matters that much, i mean sure its significant but at the end of the day there are only so many tier 1 players in the league and prime just has the lowest distribution of them short of magically having money to sign all the good free agents, i don't think there's really much blame to assign. they're a bad team with bad players, it happens in every sports league Well the past results contradicts your statement. Good teams makes good players and bad team can totally wreck good players. Look at Myungsik he went to Prime, went mediocre/bad, he went to KT and his results sky rocketed. How did Yodas move to Prime go for him, well since he went there his results have plummeted. How did Departure do on Prime? How have he been doing on MVP? Exponentially better. Innovation was struggling, went to SKT and now he's kicking ass, Impact was a mess, who would have thought he would be doing in well and winning games in pro-league half a year ago? The signs are there to see everywhere, a bad player goes to a good team expect great improvement, a great player going to Prime and expect a slump. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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NexT_SC2
United States117 Posts
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rotta
5593 Posts
On September 03 2015 04:30 Shuffleblade wrote: Look at Myungsik he went to Prime, went mediocre/bad, he went to KT and his results sky rocketed. He went from KT to Prime to ST/SBENU. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On September 03 2015 02:52 geokilla wrote: Prime please die already. geokilla please die already User was warned for this post | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
TANGTANG retired. Maru slumping. May Zest's unending reign begin ! | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On September 03 2015 05:02 OtherWorld wrote: Creator teamless. TANGTANG retired. Maru slumping. May Zest's unending reign begin ! CatZ still coaching. | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On September 03 2015 04:30 Shuffleblade wrote: Well the past results contradicts your statement. Good teams makes good players and bad team can totally wreck good players. Look at Myungsik he went to Prime, went mediocre/bad, he went to KT and his results sky rocketed. How did Yodas move to Prime go for him, well since he went there his results have plummeted. How did Departure do on Prime? How have he been doing on MVP? Exponentially better. Innovation was struggling, went to SKT and now he's kicking ass, Impact was a mess, who would have thought he would be doing in well and winning games in pro-league half a year ago? The signs are there to see everywhere, a bad player goes to a good team expect great improvement, a great player going to Prime and expect a slump. You forgot the biggest one. Dream is nothing without SKT | ||
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
Didn't he transition to HotS or something? | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On September 03 2015 05:02 OtherWorld wrote: Creator teamless. TANGTANG retired. Maru slumping. May Zest's unending reign begin ! You forgot "TRUE no longer in GSL" | ||
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rotta
5593 Posts
On September 03 2015 05:02 OtherWorld wrote: Creator teamless. TANGTANG retired. Maru slumping. May Zest's unending reign begin ! Only teamkills can stop him now! | ||
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DSK
England1110 Posts
On September 03 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote: Prime taking another beating. As sad as it is, this made me laugh. I suppose being in the current Prime environment, you'll either fall into sadness and despair or do your utmost to get out of the rut. With all TANGTANG's experiences thus far in Proleague, I'm not surprised. Sad really, if he was on another team he'd probably be doing better, at least in mentality. Good luck to him in his future endeavours. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On September 03 2015 04:30 Shuffleblade wrote: Well the past results contradicts your statement. Good teams makes good players and bad team can totally wreck good players. Look at Myungsik he went to Prime, went mediocre/bad, he went to KT and his results sky rocketed. How did Yodas move to Prime go for him, well since he went there his results have plummeted. How did Departure do on Prime? How have he been doing on MVP? Exponentially better. Innovation was struggling, went to SKT and now he's kicking ass, Impact was a mess, who would have thought he would be doing in well and winning games in pro-league half a year ago? The signs are there to see everywhere, a bad player goes to a good team expect great improvement, a great player going to Prime and expect a slump. There are mistakes in what you're saying. MyuNgSiK was on KT before he was on Prime. And INnoVation reached the final of GSL while on Acer, he only played the final with the SKT jersey but the whole road was with Acer. | ||
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Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
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[16thSq] Kuro
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Now that would be awesome. | ||
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iamkaokao
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Akimbo
Canada104 Posts
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37033 Posts
On September 03 2015 07:06 swag_bro wrote: Prime should just disband now. There is absolutely no more hope for such a great team. MKP and Maru leaving basically killed them Don't forget MyuNgSiK, Creator, and Zoun. And of course, the zerg bonjwa that never came to be: TerrOr. | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
On September 03 2015 06:03 Boucot wrote: INnoVation reached the final of GSL while on Acer, he only played the final with the SKT jersey but the whole road was with Acer. Not sure if bait or just retarded or what User was warned for this post | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
Pretty sure it's just a post stating the truth as it is. SKT picked up INnoVation when he was semifinalist of this GSL already, and I think he prepared the semis and the finals much more with his usual practicr partner than with the SKT house. You could also add to Boucot's post, as far as INnoVation's results on SKT go, that he also experienced a decently big slump on SKT. | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Daswollvieh
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rotta
5593 Posts
On September 03 2015 05:27 OtherWorld wrote: Didn't he transition to HotS or something? LotV | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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Heartland
Sweden24584 Posts
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J. Corsair
United States470 Posts
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2236 Posts
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On September 03 2015 16:22 Brutaxilos wrote: Honest question, before TangTang retired, if Prime were to make playoffs how would they be allowed to play in a Bo7??? In theory the Chinese players are still part of their PL lineup no? | ||
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Apoteosis
Chile820 Posts
On September 03 2015 13:32 Yorkie wrote: Rest in piece Prime, you were once a legit rival, now a shadow of your former self. Just remember trophies fade, but unplugged cords last forever. This is divine justice. Prime is paying the price of that THEFT at the GSTL Finals. Never forget ! | ||
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Korakys
New Zealand272 Posts
Prime on life support now, here's hoping they get triple-bypass surgery before next season starts. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24226 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On September 03 2015 19:43 OtherWorld wrote: In theory the Chinese players are still part of their PL lineup no? Assuming they aren't too skiddish about the MERS scare stil | ||
digmouse
China6330 Posts
On September 03 2015 18:11 J. Corsair wrote: no matter how you look at it, as a fan of SC2 this type of news is saddening. I'm going to enjoy this next year or so of Hots, it will probably be the end of SC2. I don't think LoTV will change anything unfortunately. I don't think there will be any HotS after Blizzcon. | ||
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catabowl
United States815 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On September 03 2015 22:30 catabowl wrote: Pro League missing a team for next season... Enter Unholy Alliance 2!!! EG-TL-mYi :D Assuming there is a Proleague next season it'll probably end up being more like Axiom-DPix-Prime | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On September 03 2015 04:30 Shuffleblade wrote: Well the past results contradicts your statement. Good teams makes good players and bad team can totally wreck good players. Look at Myungsik he went to Prime, went mediocre/bad, he went to KT and his results sky rocketed. How did Yodas move to Prime go for him, well since he went there his results have plummeted. How did Departure do on Prime? How have he been doing on MVP? Exponentially better. Innovation was struggling, went to SKT and now he's kicking ass, Impact was a mess, who would have thought he would be doing in well and winning games in pro-league half a year ago? The signs are there to see everywhere, a bad player goes to a good team expect great improvement, a great player going to Prime and expect a slump. you have very very badly missed the point, as i clearly said yes it's significant but team environment can't change the level of talent someone has. i could spend twelve hours a day in a korean teamhouse and i would probably still top out at master your random examples don't really demonstrate anything, especially when it comes to players like inno who already showed a top level of play and had ups and downs. every player has ups and downs, that's not really the same as an entire team being full of nobodies with low or no results. if the implication is that skt could take prime and make them a playoff team then it's an absurd one people love to blame coaches because there's literally no way to prove it right or wrong yet you can argue as adamantly as you please that there's something "wrong with the coaching" or whatever. it's just intellectual laziness and its boring does skt have better coaching than prime and does it matter? yes, like i already said it probably does matter. but attributing their entire failure to that and not admitting the players just aren't that talented is unfair and silly | ||
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lollyz
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Ej_
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On September 04 2015 02:14 brickrd wrote: you have very very badly missed the point, as i clearly said yes it's significant but team environment can't change the level of talent someone has. i could spend twelve hours a day in a korean teamhouse and i would probably still top out at master your random examples don't really demonstrate anything, especially when it comes to players like inno who already showed a top level of play and had ups and downs. every player has ups and downs, that's not really the same as an entire team being full of nobodies with low or no results. if the implication is that skt could take prime and make them a playoff team then it's an absurd one people love to blame coaches because there's literally no way to prove it right or wrong yet you can argue as adamantly as you please that there's something "wrong with the coaching" or whatever. it's just intellectual laziness and its boring does skt have better coaching than prime and does it matter? yes, like i already said it probably does matter. but attributing their entire failure to that and not admitting the players just aren't that talented is unfair and silly There's a reason they bought out Zoun from PRIME and not BBoongBBoong. SKT has some monstrous coaching (they basically changed Dream and Dark from Tier 2 or 3 players into championship contenders), but they pick up people only that they can see have potential. tl;dr SKT is better than PRIME because they can afford both superb coaches and superb players | ||
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Alucen-Will-
United States4054 Posts
On September 04 2015 02:25 Ej_ wrote: There's a reason they bought out Zoun from PRIME and not BBoongBBoong. SKT has some monstrous coaching (they basically changed Dream and Dark from Tier 2 or 3 players into championship contenders), but they pick up people only that they can see have potential. tl;dr SKT is better than PRIME because they can afford both superb coaches and superb players SK Telecom is worth about 20 billion dollars, is anyone unrealistic enough to assume that a team like Prime has a realistic chance to compete with them at any level? no | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
But not even Prime can last forever. Even if SC2 was prospering in Korea, which it isn't, Prime would basically be on life support. At this point, from a monetary standpoint, I'm guessing only the greatest of champions and a couple of others (Parting, Flash, Rain, Life, Hero) are making any more money than they would working a retail job or something like that. | ||
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Wrath
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FiendwOw
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oGoZenob
France1503 Posts
On September 04 2015 04:25 Alucen-Will- wrote: SK Telecom is worth about 20 billion dollars, is anyone unrealistic enough to assume that a team like Prime has a realistic chance to compete with them at any level? no i doubt the team budget is the only thing SKT uses his money in | ||
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