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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 27 2015 12:55 GMT
#1
Our resident SCII writer Stephen "stuchiu" Chiu was recently interviewed by Thooorin for goldper10.com. In their chat, they talk about the game's history and some of its most special players.

Check out their interview for great statements like this one...

MKP on the other hand had some obvious problems. One of the most mechanically gifted players, but also one of the most stupid.


... and get some insight into stuchiu's mind. It's a read well worth your time!

Full article here: www.goldper10.com
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 27 2015 13:04 GMT
#2
Good to see that Stuchiu sticks with his convictions. :D
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Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
August 27 2015 13:09 GMT
#3
Wow, my two favourite esports "thinkers", or how to put it
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
August 27 2015 13:19 GMT
#4
boo, they could have corrected stuchiu's typos :[

good read
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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14461 Posts
August 27 2015 13:21 GMT
#5
The problem with him was that he was getting figured out by Koreans (most notably Symbol learned he only did 2 builds in TvZ -CC first and 11/11, both get beaten by a 7 roach rush)

Marry me stuchiu
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lost_patrol
Profile Joined July 2015
16 Posts
August 27 2015 13:38 GMT
#6
This is featured Community news, but the $17.000 prize pool Hell its about time SC2 tournament isn't?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 27 2015 13:44 GMT
#7
On August 27 2015 22:38 lost_patrol wrote:
This is featured Community news, but the $17.000 prize pool Hell its about time SC2 tournament isn't?


HIAT was CN as well.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-27 13:45:35
August 27 2015 13:45 GMT
#8

Uuh never mind. ^__^';
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18525 Posts
August 27 2015 13:52 GMT
#9
Great interview and great read, I only disagree with Rain being under-appreciated. No one has ever underrated Rain. He's a beast and is also treated as such by fans and players alike.

You only got this response because Parting is a fan-favourite, stuchiu.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 27 2015 13:55 GMT
#10
On August 27 2015 22:52 sharkie wrote:
Great interview and great read, I only disagree with Rain being under-appreciated. No one has ever underrated Rain. He's a beast and is also treated as such by fans and players alike.

You only got this response because Parting is a fan-favourite, stuchiu.

I'm pretty sure that Rain was picked out by iloveoov back a long time ago to become a force to be reckoned with in the years to come back when iloveoov gave his retirement interview of sorts.
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Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
August 27 2015 13:56 GMT
#11
I loved how he simply called MKP stupid. Surprised he didn't mention Flash as one of the most stubborn players; annoyed how people were saying that Life was better than soO in 2014. I liked the random Has praise at the end but not liked there's not a single mention of Zest in the whole interview (tho I understand why he doesn't catch stuchiu's eye).

So super nice read, great questions and great answers. I sometimes don't agree with stuchiu in his assessments but I enjoy so much his writing!
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
August 27 2015 14:09 GMT
#12
Nice read.
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Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
August 27 2015 14:21 GMT
#13
didn't expect it, gonna read it
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Kimb3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany744 Posts
August 27 2015 14:22 GMT
#14
Apparently a big-time fanboy of TaeJa!
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Aocowns
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway6070 Posts
August 27 2015 14:59 GMT
#15
Good read, i like the very candid style
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 27 2015 15:12 GMT
#16
I don't agree with everything stuchiu said, especially the Rain and Stephano parts but besides that it's a great interview. stuchiu knows a ton about SC2 and reading his articles is always a treat. =)
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agsub
Profile Joined May 2012
Singapore368 Posts
August 27 2015 15:52 GMT
#17
great interview =)
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
August 27 2015 16:38 GMT
#18
Great words from the great man. I especially loved his explanation for mechanics being overrated.
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
August 27 2015 16:55 GMT
#19
I'm surprised about stuchiu's opinion about Stephano and BL/infestor. I always thought that the prominence of BL/infestor harmed him as he had to play more ZvZs than before.
KtJ
Profile Joined October 2014
United States3514 Posts
August 27 2015 17:05 GMT
#20
"Has is the most ridiculous player to have ever been born" Stu in his last words of the interview.
"I thought I destroyed my CC but it seemed like the only thing I destroyed was Idra's mentality."
AWalker9
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
United Kingdom7229 Posts
August 27 2015 17:49 GMT
#21
Great words from probably the best SC2 writer around
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
August 27 2015 17:51 GMT
#22
stuchiu is always a treat to read either in an article or an interview.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 27 2015 17:52 GMT
#23
goldper10 ? 10 ? what is this meta ?
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
August 27 2015 21:53 GMT
#24
Nice, this will be interesting :D
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 27 2015 21:55 GMT
#25
On August 28 2015 01:55 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'm surprised about stuchiu's opinion about Stephano and BL/infestor. I always thought that the prominence of BL/infestor harmed him as he had to play more ZvZs than before.

That's exactly my opinion too.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
August 28 2015 12:07 GMT
#26
Stuchiu not having drg/has as his favorite players, stuchiu confirmed for worst waifu
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
August 28 2015 12:21 GMT
#27
Nice interview Stuchiu.

Also

Hopefully Titan meet Envyus this weekend [in CS:GO - editor's note] and prove that anger, spite and vengeance are the greatest motivators of all.


Heh, would have been fun to watch that (but it'd been a stomp, EnVy would have mopped the floor with them).

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tokinho
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States792 Posts
August 31 2015 11:09 GMT
#28
OMG some of the comments here.
----------------------------------------------
Parting underperforming

.......In 2011 (MVP) was one of the least popular players despite winning so much......

Stephano good only because of broodlord infestor...

Thorzain the most underrated foreigner....

Soo was considered not very good in korea...

2012 best matchup tvt.....
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 31 2015 11:20 GMT
#29
On August 31 2015 20:09 tokinho wrote:
OMG some of the comments here.
----------------------------------------------
Parting underperforming

.......In 2011 (MVP) was one of the least popular players despite winning so much......

Stephano good only because of broodlord infestor...

Thorzain the most underrated foreigner....

Soo was considered not very good in korea...

2012 best matchup tvt.....


I'm not sure any of those could ever be construed as absurd (perhaps with the exception of Thorzain being underrated). How do you feel about them?
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 31 2015 11:24 GMT
#30
That MKP quote. Sadly, I can't say he's wrong .
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
August 31 2015 17:11 GMT
#31
Great interview. Agreed on most points, especially:
1. Rain > Parting
2. soO > Life (2014)
3. Soulkey's superb defensive skills
4. Life and Maru don't really bring anything new to the table - they just execute their hyper-aggressive styles effectively like no other
5. Speedvacs killed a lot of dynamism in TvT and TvZ (and arguably, I would add, TvP as well)

Stuchiu has less good things to say about Protoss (except about Rain) - maybe he's just more familiar with Terran and Zerg playstyles. I was hoping to hear more about what he thinks about the Protoss resurgence for the last two years, and top players such as Zest, Classic and herO.
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
August 31 2015 17:16 GMT
#32
What.........Stephano is a really good player despite BL / infestor...his decision making is phenomenal.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 31 2015 17:20 GMT
#33
But even without bl/infestor, Stephano proved he was strong in muta ling/bling play and roach/hydra play. He had arguably the best decision making of any foreigner and the best mindset for a competitor.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 31 2015 17:22 GMT
#34
Oh thats easy. Zest is a Genius in PvP and proved it since he dominated in PvP in an year with Parting, Rain, sOs, Classic and herO at or close to the top of their games.

I'd say he has fairly high mechanics, but his real skill comes from his decision making, positional games and refinement of his builds.

Classic is probably the most diverse Protoss in the sense that he can and has played nearly every style in every matchup. He seems to play better against people he's had history with (either through multiple rematches or on his team). Because he uses so many styles and is very good in most aspects of the ame, in many ways he is very close to the ideal standard Protoss. He cant always out think you like Zest or out-micro you like Parting, but he has the largest toolkit to choose from among the top tier Protoss players.

herO is the most one-dimensional of Protoss players. He mostly tries to stick to one build/style per matchup (with the exception being PvP because it's PvP). But because of that he has bad tendencies that have been exploited multiple times by both Protoss (2 gate) and Zerg players (early random slow ling attacks). He doesn't seem to pick up on new changes in the meta as fast as his peers and his series planning is generally terrible. The upsides though is that his micro is some of the best around (though too aggressive compared to say Parting) and if he gets to play his game he can beat most players.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 31 2015 17:23 GMT
#35
On September 01 2015 02:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
But even without bl/infestor, Stephano proved he was strong in muta ling/bling play and roach/hydra play. He had arguably the best decision making of any foreigner and the best mindset for a competitor.


But that would require reading
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18525 Posts
August 31 2015 17:42 GMT
#36
On September 01 2015 02:22 stuchiu wrote:
Oh thats easy. Zest is a Genius in PvP and proved it since he dominated in PvP in an year with Parting, Rain, sOs, Classic and herO at or close to the top of their games.

I'd say he has fairly high mechanics, but his real skill comes from his decision making, positional games and refinement of his builds.

Classic is probably the most diverse Protoss in the sense that he can and has played nearly every style in every matchup. He seems to play better against people he's had history with (either through multiple rematches or on his team). Because he uses so many styles and is very good in most aspects of the ame, in many ways he is very close to the ideal standard Protoss. He cant always out think you like Zest or out-micro you like Parting, but he has the largest toolkit to choose from among the top tier Protoss players.

herO is the most one-dimensional of Protoss players. He mostly tries to stick to one build/style per matchup (with the exception being PvP because it's PvP). But because of that he has bad tendencies that have been exploited multiple times by both Protoss (2 gate) and Zerg players (early random slow ling attacks). He doesn't seem to pick up on new changes in the meta as fast as his peers and his series planning is generally terrible. The upsides though is that his micro is some of the best around (though too aggressive compared to say Parting) and if he gets to play his game he can beat most players.


Don't you mean herO can beat all players if he gets to play his game?
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-31 18:18:28
August 31 2015 18:16 GMT
#37
On September 01 2015 02:22 stuchiu wrote:
Oh thats easy. Zest is a Genius in PvP and proved it since he dominated in PvP in an year with Parting, Rain, sOs, Classic and herO at or close to the top of their games.

I'd say he has fairly high mechanics, but his real skill comes from his decision making, positional games and refinement of his builds.

Classic is probably the most diverse Protoss in the sense that he can and has played nearly every style in every matchup. He seems to play better against people he's had history with (either through multiple rematches or on his team). Because he uses so many styles and is very good in most aspects of the ame, in many ways he is very close to the ideal standard Protoss. He cant always out think you like Zest or out-micro you like Parting, but he has the largest toolkit to choose from among the top tier Protoss players.

herO is the most one-dimensional of Protoss players. He mostly tries to stick to one build/style per matchup (with the exception being PvP because it's PvP). But because of that he has bad tendencies that have been exploited multiple times by both Protoss (2 gate) and Zerg players (early random slow ling attacks). He doesn't seem to pick up on new changes in the meta as fast as his peers and his series planning is generally terrible. The upsides though is that his micro is some of the best around (though too aggressive compared to say Parting) and if he gets to play his game he can beat most players.


Wow thanks for the quick answer!

Yes, again I agree with your points. Zest is rather solid all round, Classic is really creative (second only to sOs) and herO has a indistinguishable and unremarkable playstyle (yet always gets more love than so-called boring Rain - probably due to his kpop looks).
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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
August 31 2015 18:33 GMT
#38
On September 01 2015 02:16 GGzerG wrote:
What.........Stephano is a really good player despite BL / infestor...his decision making is phenomenal.

A closer look will tell you that BL/infestor did hurt his dominance. I agree that his decision making and micro were superb.
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