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On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:On August 27 2015 17:22 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 17:17 rotta wrote:Good news for KT & sOs fans like myself! On August 27 2015 17:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 17:13 Ej_ wrote:On August 27 2015 17:12 DarkLordOlli wrote:
It's funny because KT are screwing over TY with this. He's currently in the #16 WCS spot, going to Blizzcon. Guess what happens if sOs wins this! it's ok because he won't I agreed! it is unfair to those advance through qualifies! Doesn't even need to, he's only 100 WCS points behind TY Who cares, S2SL should cover TY. It won't, those points are already accounted for. Even with TY's Ro4, sOs is only 100 points behind. I am pretty sure, each of them will need several hundreds additional points to get to BlizzCon ... and the 16th spot will definitely not be reserved for any of these two ... There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed
Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)?
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On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:On August 27 2015 17:22 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 17:17 rotta wrote:Good news for KT & sOs fans like myself! On August 27 2015 17:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 17:13 Ej_ wrote:
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it's ok because he won't I agreed! it is unfair to those advance through qualifies! Doesn't even need to, he's only 100 WCS points behind TY Who cares, S2SL should cover TY. It won't, those points are already accounted for. Even with TY's Ro4, sOs is only 100 points behind. I am pretty sure, each of them will need several hundreds additional points to get to BlizzCon ... and the 16th spot will definitely not be reserved for any of these two ... There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)?
That's my understanding
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On August 28 2015 10:15 mierin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:On August 27 2015 17:22 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 17:17 rotta wrote:Good news for KT & sOs fans like myself! On August 27 2015 17:13 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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I agreed! it is unfair to those advance through qualifies!
Doesn't even need to, he's only 100 WCS points behind TY Who cares, S2SL should cover TY. It won't, those points are already accounted for. Even with TY's Ro4, sOs is only 100 points behind. I am pretty sure, each of them will need several hundreds additional points to get to BlizzCon ... and the 16th spot will definitely not be reserved for any of these two ... There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)? That's my understanding
This tournament matters for sOs/HyuN/Jaedong/Solar other then that rest don't care :D
17. sOs 2400 GSL/MSI
19 HyuN 2125 MSI/DH/4Gamers
32 Jaedong 1525 WCS/DH/MSI
36 Solar 1350 GSL/MSI/DH
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On August 28 2015 11:38 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 10:15 mierin wrote:On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:On August 27 2015 17:22 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:On August 27 2015 17:17 rotta wrote:
Good news for KT & sOs fans like myself!
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Who cares, S2SL should cover TY. It won't, those points are already accounted for. Even with TY's Ro4, sOs is only 100 points behind. I am pretty sure, each of them will need several hundreds additional points to get to BlizzCon ... and the 16th spot will definitely not be reserved for any of these two ... There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)? That's my understanding This tournament matters for sOs/HyuN/Jaedong/Solar other then that rest don't care :D 17. sOs 2400 GSL/MSI 19 HyuN 2125 MSI/DH/4Gamers 32 Jaedong 1525 WCS/DH/MSI 36 Solar 1350 GSL/MSI/DH
it matters dosn't mean it's reasonable
I wondered MSI invited these players base on what? is there some standards? or just organization's personal interest? or they want to increase the entertaining? then they should invite player such as Maru or life but they didnt…maybe they think these players dont need the wcs points. but they invited Parting……
so this MSI stuff provide wcs points and they dont even have standards or explanations just base on some personal interest…
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On August 28 2015 12:24 bestviva wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 11:38 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 10:15 mierin wrote:On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:On August 27 2015 17:22 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
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It won't, those points are already accounted for. Even with TY's Ro4, sOs is only 100 points behind. I am pretty sure, each of them will need several hundreds additional points to get to BlizzCon ... and the 16th spot will definitely not be reserved for any of these two ... There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)? That's my understanding This tournament matters for sOs/HyuN/Jaedong/Solar other then that rest don't care :D 17. sOs 2400 GSL/MSI 19 HyuN 2125 MSI/DH/4Gamers 32 Jaedong 1525 WCS/DH/MSI 36 Solar 1350 GSL/MSI/DH it matters dosn't mean it's reasonable I wondered MSI invited these players base on what? is there some standards? or just organization's personal interest? or they want to increase the entertaining? then they should invite player such as Maru or life but they didnt…maybe they think these players dont need the wcs points. but they invited Parting……so this MSI stuff provide wcs points and they dont even have standards or explanations just base on some personal interest…
Some of the invites made sense tbh Solar is the previous champion and PartinG was the runner up. Jaedong is a brood war legend so they invited him mostly likely for hype. HyuN is rank 19 in wcs atm and has been performing quite well recently. The only invites that were really strange were viOLet and Ian. Where the only reason is could think of would be that MSI is Taiwan brand which would be why they invite Ian and that viOLet lived in the US already which is why they invited him i guess other then that i have no clue why either of the 2 would be invited over players like MMA/Rain/Snute/Bunny etc.
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Hyun and JD just get invited to everything. No real surprises.
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I wonder who to contact so I can stream this event. There is no contact details and as I look for information regarding the tournament I can't really seem to locate anything that would lead me to the organizers, or at least to whoever decides who can stream it.
If anyone has any info on who to contact, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!
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On August 28 2015 14:10 SNSeigifried wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 12:24 bestviva wrote:On August 28 2015 11:38 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 10:15 mierin wrote:On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:On August 27 2015 17:22 Diabolique wrote:
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I am pretty sure, each of them will need several hundreds additional points to get to BlizzCon ... and the 16th spot will definitely not be reserved for any of these two ... There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)? That's my understanding This tournament matters for sOs/HyuN/Jaedong/Solar other then that rest don't care :D 17. sOs 2400 GSL/MSI 19 HyuN 2125 MSI/DH/4Gamers 32 Jaedong 1525 WCS/DH/MSI 36 Solar 1350 GSL/MSI/DH it matters dosn't mean it's reasonable I wondered MSI invited these players base on what? is there some standards? or just organization's personal interest? or they want to increase the entertaining? then they should invite player such as Maru or life but they didnt…maybe they think these players dont need the wcs points. but they invited Parting……so this MSI stuff provide wcs points and they dont even have standards or explanations just base on some personal interest… Some of the invites made sense tbh Solar is the previous champion and PartinG was the runner up. Jaedong is a brood war legend so they invited him mostly likely for hype. HyuN is rank 19 in wcs atm and has been performing quite well recently. The only invites that were really strange were viOLet and Ian. Where the only reason is could think of would be that MSI is Taiwan brand which would be why they invite Ian and that viOLet lived in the US already which is why they invited him i guess other then that i have no clue why either of the 2 would be invited over players like MMA/Rain/Snute/Bunny etc.
solar win Gfinity , but noting related with MSI……
whatever…I dont think wcs points should give away so sloppy…
MSI can invite anyone they want, give any money they want but dont touch the wcs points…it's about blizzcon and a player's ultimate glory…
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On August 28 2015 17:37 bestviva wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 14:10 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 12:24 bestviva wrote:On August 28 2015 11:38 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 10:15 mierin wrote:On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:
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There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)? That's my understanding This tournament matters for sOs/HyuN/Jaedong/Solar other then that rest don't care :D 17. sOs 2400 GSL/MSI 19 HyuN 2125 MSI/DH/4Gamers 32 Jaedong 1525 WCS/DH/MSI 36 Solar 1350 GSL/MSI/DH it matters dosn't mean it's reasonable I wondered MSI invited these players base on what? is there some standards? or just organization's personal interest? or they want to increase the entertaining? then they should invite player such as Maru or life but they didnt…maybe they think these players dont need the wcs points. but they invited Parting……so this MSI stuff provide wcs points and they dont even have standards or explanations just base on some personal interest… Some of the invites made sense tbh Solar is the previous champion and PartinG was the runner up. Jaedong is a brood war legend so they invited him mostly likely for hype. HyuN is rank 19 in wcs atm and has been performing quite well recently. The only invites that were really strange were viOLet and Ian. Where the only reason is could think of would be that MSI is Taiwan brand which would be why they invite Ian and that viOLet lived in the US already which is why they invited him i guess other then that i have no clue why either of the 2 would be invited over players like MMA/Rain/Snute/Bunny etc. solar win Gfinity , but noting related with MSI…… whatever…I dont think wcs points should give away so sloppy… MSI can invite anyone they want, give any money they want but dont touch the wcs points…it's about blizzcon and a player's ultimate glory…
doesn't blizzard decide which tournaments can give out WCS points? shouldn't you be mad at blizzard? any tournament can invite whomever they want... if that's a problem for you then you should be saying no tournaments with invites should give out points
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Please win this s0s for the sake of Blizzcon. PLEASE.
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Well, I think the Zest case just shows why MSI does not invite big proleaguers (Maru, Life, etc...) and stick to Koreigners (JD, Hyun, Violet etc.) or Koreans that are used to travelling like Parting, Solar and now sOs.
Inviting a kespa god (or getting him qualified) only to see him decline must be disappointing for the staff.
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On August 28 2015 19:50 brickrd wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 17:37 bestviva wrote:On August 28 2015 14:10 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 12:24 bestviva wrote:On August 28 2015 11:38 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 10:15 mierin wrote:On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:
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This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)? That's my understanding This tournament matters for sOs/HyuN/Jaedong/Solar other then that rest don't care :D 17. sOs 2400 GSL/MSI 19 HyuN 2125 MSI/DH/4Gamers 32 Jaedong 1525 WCS/DH/MSI 36 Solar 1350 GSL/MSI/DH it matters dosn't mean it's reasonable I wondered MSI invited these players base on what? is there some standards? or just organization's personal interest? or they want to increase the entertaining? then they should invite player such as Maru or life but they didnt…maybe they think these players dont need the wcs points. but they invited Parting……so this MSI stuff provide wcs points and they dont even have standards or explanations just base on some personal interest… Some of the invites made sense tbh Solar is the previous champion and PartinG was the runner up. Jaedong is a brood war legend so they invited him mostly likely for hype. HyuN is rank 19 in wcs atm and has been performing quite well recently. The only invites that were really strange were viOLet and Ian. Where the only reason is could think of would be that MSI is Taiwan brand which would be why they invite Ian and that viOLet lived in the US already which is why they invited him i guess other then that i have no clue why either of the 2 would be invited over players like MMA/Rain/Snute/Bunny etc. solar win Gfinity , but noting related with MSI…… whatever…I dont think wcs points should give away so sloppy… MSI can invite anyone they want, give any money they want but dont touch the wcs points…it's about blizzcon and a player's ultimate glory… doesn't blizzard decide which tournaments can give out WCS points? shouldn't you be mad at blizzard? any tournament can invite whomever they want... if that's a problem for you then you should be saying no tournaments with invites should give out points
so what's the meaning of the qualifies? let's just invite a bunch of players and get the party started! Look at GSL SSL and KESPA CUP . they had standards to decide what kind of players can be seeded or be in code S . and what about others? No need to play a game to step in the main event? oh that sounds great~doesn't it ?
anyway. you're right about one thing. Blizzard holds the blizzcon. so they have every right to approve any organizations to give WCS points to anyone they want to invite. that's it.
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On August 28 2015 21:54 bestviva wrote:
so what's the meaning of the qualifies?
Those that qualify get points even if they go 0-4.
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On August 28 2015 22:01 rotta wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 21:54 bestviva wrote:
so what's the meaning of the qualifies?
Those that qualify get points even if they go 0-4.
yeah...that's great news...how sweet MSI is...= =
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On August 28 2015 17:37 bestviva wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2015 14:10 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 12:24 bestviva wrote:On August 28 2015 11:38 SNSeigifried wrote:On August 28 2015 10:15 mierin wrote:On August 28 2015 09:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:On August 28 2015 08:58 bestviva wrote:On August 27 2015 20:45 otzowski wrote:On August 27 2015 18:35 Diabolique wrote:On August 27 2015 17:31 Inflicted wrote:
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There's a good chance SSL & GSL will be won by players in the Top 15 and it'll be sOs vs TY for the 16th spot This will all depend on who wins the WCS in Poland ... I believe, both sOs and TY can still make a few hundred points and the 16th place can be held by someone from the guys before them. No, Blizzard had to cancel every wcs point for this waste MSI tournament because of WCS distortion. It's unfair competetition and if Blizzard wants to save its face it must prevent such wcs points premiers as this MSI where someone try's to distort road to Blizzcon with his invites that are brazen-faced and against terran (TY/Fantasy)! -.- agreed Isn't this tournament pointless in terms of WCS points for everyone outside of sOs? Isn't everyone else either almost locked in (>99% chance) or locked out (<1% chance)? That's my understanding This tournament matters for sOs/HyuN/Jaedong/Solar other then that rest don't care :D 17. sOs 2400 GSL/MSI 19 HyuN 2125 MSI/DH/4Gamers 32 Jaedong 1525 WCS/DH/MSI 36 Solar 1350 GSL/MSI/DH it matters dosn't mean it's reasonable I wondered MSI invited these players base on what? is there some standards? or just organization's personal interest? or they want to increase the entertaining? then they should invite player such as Maru or life but they didnt…maybe they think these players dont need the wcs points. but they invited Parting……so this MSI stuff provide wcs points and they dont even have standards or explanations just base on some personal interest… Some of the invites made sense tbh Solar is the previous champion and PartinG was the runner up. Jaedong is a brood war legend so they invited him mostly likely for hype. HyuN is rank 19 in wcs atm and has been performing quite well recently. The only invites that were really strange were viOLet and Ian. Where the only reason is could think of would be that MSI is Taiwan brand which would be why they invite Ian and that viOLet lived in the US already which is why they invited him i guess other then that i have no clue why either of the 2 would be invited over players like MMA/Rain/Snute/Bunny etc. solar win Gfinity , but noting related with MSI…… whatever…I dont think wcs points should give away so sloppy… MSI can invite anyone they want, give any money they want but dont touch the wcs points…it's about blizzcon and a player's ultimate glory…
Solar won the last msi and parting was runner up here is my source plz do your research before trying to flame people ty 
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_MSI_Beat_IT
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Solar won the last msi and parting was runner up here is my source plz do your research before trying to flame people ty
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_MSI_Beat_IT[/QUOTE
and why is that related with JD Hyun and violet? according to you. JD is a legend. Ian is Taiwanese. Hyun "perform well recently". and voilet is just because he"live in US"……personal interest everywhere and some even make people wonder"why him?"
and I DIDNT flame people. I just make my point. as I said blizzard is authority so they can do anything they like but it doesnt mean I have to agreed with everything they do.
it is about having a chance to get the WCS points, now the situation is some can have this chance and some cant .it depends on the organization. I dont think it is fair…
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MSI can invite anyone they want, give any money they want but dont touch the wcs points
agree
I'd rather have Maru or Cure... The lack of terran players in this tournament is pissing me off...
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On August 29 2015 02:25 bestviva wrote:Solar won the last msi and parting was runner up here is my source plz do your research before trying to flame people ty http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2014_MSI_Beat_IT[/QUOTE and why is that related with JD Hyun and violet? according to you. JD is a legend. Ian is Taiwanese. Hyun "perform well recently". and voilet is just because he"live in US"……personal interest everywhere and some even make people wonder"why him?" and I DIDNT flame people. I just make my point. as I said blizzard is authority so they can do anything they like but it doesnt mean I have to agreed with everything they do. it is about having a chance to get the WCS points, now the situation is some can have this chance and some cant .it depends on the organization. I dont think it is fair…
JD, Hyun and Violet are pro-gamers in the international travel circuit. That's what they do. It's their job, it's how they make money. And since they don't have Pro league, or Kespa teams limiting where and how often they can go to tournaments they're likely the first ones to accept invites. That added to the fact that they're popular with crowds make them easy choices for organizers to invite to their tournaments.
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