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[WCS NA] Challenger Preview - S3 2015

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[WCS NA] Challenger Preview - S3 2015

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July 22nd, 2015 07:16 GMT
2015 WCS Season 3

WCS Season Three
Challenger League



WCS NA Challenger
MaSa vs Bails
Jaedong vs Semper
StarDust vs Neeb
Kane vs HuK
Polt vs JonSnow
viOLet vs qxc
Xenocider vs Hitman

Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

WCS NA Challenger League

by lichter
Day 1:
Day 2:

Match: (T)MaSa vs (P)Bails
Matchup Stats: MaSa - 66% | Bails - 63%
Score Prediction: MaSa 2 - 3 Bails
Match Prediction: MaSa tries to play like his namesake but Bails blinks in and kills his medivacs every time
Outlook: If you follow MaSa on twitter, you'll know that he's been complaining about his TvP every since his WCS Challenger matchup was determined. You could take that as some sort of feint or mindgame, trying to convince Bails to relax. Yet Bails has been on a tear lately, even though it has been against lower level competition. MaSa on the other hand beat Astrea to get into Premier last season, where he also defeated MaNa. Not quite an enviable hitlist, but this match should still be close.
The Match in an out-of-context Tweet: MaSa will play dirty with a few all ins



Match: (Z)Jaedong vs (T)Semper
Matchup Stats: Jaedong - 56% | Semper - 66%
Score Prediction: Jaedong 3 - 1 Semper
Match Prediction: Semper channels Has, because why not
Outlook: Sure, much of Jaedong's success has been in ZvZ, but he's not that bad at ZvT. His form is still somewhat of a mystery however, even though he did well enough in Season 2 before being pummeled by eventual champion Hydra. Semper on the other hand is one of the least experienced players in all of Challenger, and anything more than a game or two should be considered a success for the Canadian Terran.
The Match in an out-of-context Tweet: Jaedong appears rusty in Game 1 because he probably didn't practice that much



Match: (P)StarDust vs (P)Neeb
Matchup Stats: StarDust - 66% | Neeb - 56%
Score Prediction: StarDust 3 - 0 Neeb
Match Prediction: StarDust prints out his "free win" tweet and uses it as a celebration banner
Outlook: Switching races is nearly unheard of in Starcraft 2. Sure, you could hop around depending on balance, but players that race switch rarely experience much success, with one exception: Classic. Neeb, hoping to emulate the champion, has switched from terran to protoss. So far, his results look okay, but he has hardly been tested. On the other hand, StarDust, even at his worst, is as formidable a PvP player as you can find. He may not have the late game chops of his fellow Koreans, but his killer instinct is second to none (now that MC is gone).
The Match in an out-of-context Tweet: Maybe, just maybe, StarDust wins



Match: (Z)Kane vs (P)HuK
Matchup Stats: Kane - 62% | HuK - 61%
Score Prediction: Kane 2 - 3 HuK
Match Prediction: HuK builds more gates in the series than nexuses and hatcheries combined
Outlook: When Twitter Professional and sorta retired SC2 pro Kane peaked in Season 1, fans believed that they had found the next great Canadian Champion. Unfortunately, he was knocked out swiftly in Season 2 by Jim and Petraeus. Then, he announced that he was taking a step back and planned on only playing WCS and nothing else. Just like that, no more Canadian hope. Oh, wait, HuK's still alive and breathing. The EG Protoss has hovered close to the border of Premier League for a while now, but 2015 just hasn't been his year. He's due for a breakout season some day; since this is the last season of the year, this might as well be it.
The Match in an out-of-context Tweet: Kane dicks around and loses in Game 5



Match: (T)Polt vs (Z)JonSnow
Matchup Stats: Polt - 66% | JonSnow - 51%
Score Prediction: Polt 3 - 0 JonSnow
Match Prediction: Jon Snow dies and stays dead at least for the rest of 2015
Outlook: I don't watch Game of Thrones so I have no idea what happened and how this guy's namesake died. However, I'm pretty sure it wasn't as brutal as this match will likely be. Polt has won more WCS AM titles than JonSnow has made Challenger appearances, so a good outing tonight, even if he does get massacred, will at least be a valuable learning experience.
The Match in an out-of-context Tweet: Yup, definitely dead.



Match: (Z)viOLet vs (T)qxc
Matchup Stats: viOLet - 57% | qxc - 54%
Score Prediction: viOLet 3 - 1 qxc
Match Prediction: qxc plays out of his mind in 1 game but immediately runs out of juice
Outlook: After showing he still had it in 2014, viOLet has had a much harder time this year. With two Ro32 exits and no foreign events to speak of, the Surgeon Zerg has sort of fallen off the map. Considered as the weakest Korean in WCS—and often counted by many as *gasp* one of the foreigners—his results as well has his play have shown little to suggest he can turn things around in season 3. However, he's still good enough to get into Premier each and every time, and he's already 3-0'd his opponent once in S1 Challenger. That isn't a surprise as qxc has had a difficult time with TvZ in WCS. In Season 2, he was left disappointed by Kane in a clear cut sweep. History suggests a repeat, but you never know with the John Lennon Toto Destroyer.
The Match in an out-of-context Tweet: viOLet uses a roach bane all-in in two games



Match: (T)Xenocider vs Hitman
Matchup Stats: Xenocider - 57% | Hitman - 42%
Score Prediction: Xenocider 3 - 1 Hitman
Match Prediction: Xenocider star senses an all in but still dies to it
Outlook: Hitman is the only player in Challenger with a relevant matchup below 50%. That's a brutal indictment of his level of play, and he's unlikely to get much out of this series unless he has improved by leaps and bounds since his last qualifier. Xenocider is a solid foreigner who can go toe to toe with the best, and it's going to take a massive collapse for him to get ousted this early in the season.
The Match in an out-of-context Tweet: Hitman does all ins worthy of CombatEX



Writers: lichter.
Editors: lichter.
Graphics: Meru.
Photo: Blizzard.
Stats: Aligulac
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SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2226 Posts
July 22 2015 07:29 GMT
#2
very nice article, really cheering for huk
Cogito, ergo Toss
StaN.de
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany50 Posts
July 22 2015 07:40 GMT
#3
Now I feel prepared for the upcoming WCS NA matches! Thx TL
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
July 22 2015 08:13 GMT
#4
It's worth noting that Neeb has put the phrase "I HATE PVP" (yes, in all caps) in his stream titles since he got his opponent.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
July 22 2015 08:48 GMT
#5
"Xenocider is a solid foreigner who can go toe to toe with the best"

What? No he can't, he's not very good IMO. He might beat Hitman unfortunately but Victor really is pretty good. He drew his worst match-up here but he's pretty good and can take Xenocider.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
July 22 2015 08:55 GMT
#6
On July 22 2015 17:48 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Xenocider is a solid foreigner who can go toe to toe with the best"

What? No he can't, he's not very good IMO. He might beat Hitman unfortunately but Victor really is pretty good. He drew his worst match-up here but he's pretty good and can take Xenocider.


ief 2013 never forget
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neteX
Profile Joined April 2015
Sweden285 Posts
July 22 2015 09:46 GMT
#7
comon now huk/qxc!
http://www.twitter.com/neteXLoL flw pls
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
July 22 2015 12:13 GMT
#8
NA region dominated by 2nd tier Koreans and Polt.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
vult
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States9400 Posts
July 22 2015 12:42 GMT
#9
On July 22 2015 17:55 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2015 17:48 RPR_Tempest wrote:
"Xenocider is a solid foreigner who can go toe to toe with the best"

What? No he can't, he's not very good IMO. He might beat Hitman unfortunately but Victor really is pretty good. He drew his worst match-up here but he's pretty good and can take Xenocider.


ief 2013 never forget


Beating welmu makes you a solid foreigner I guess
I used to play random, but for you I play very specifically.
helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
July 22 2015 17:59 GMT
#10
haha! Great job as usual.
I love the korean "maybe"... so true
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 22 2015 18:03 GMT
#11
What does "MaSa tries to play like his namesake" mean?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
July 22 2015 18:04 GMT
#12
On July 23 2015 03:03 opisska wrote:
What does "MaSa tries to play like his namesake" mean?

His real name is Maru Kim
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
July 22 2015 18:05 GMT
#13
On July 23 2015 03:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 03:03 opisska wrote:
What does "MaSa tries to play like his namesake" mean?

His real name is Maru Kim


Oh, that's cool. I was for a moment confused that this is another player with the nick "MaSa" - not that the first one was that well-known in the first place, but it was confusing!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
July 22 2015 18:20 GMT
#14
What an awesome preview! Great format, perfect tone, straight to the business and with some additional lull. Keep up the good work for EU as well!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10673 Posts
July 22 2015 18:45 GMT
#15
Very nice, I think Kane is going to destroy HuK though.
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mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
July 22 2015 19:27 GMT
#16
I imagine qxc, as his inevitable reaper aggression peters out against violet in a hard-fought game, will be thinking to himself, "why isn't beastyqt microing our units??" after they crushed so much face together in Red Bull's Archon tournaments lately...
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
July 22 2015 19:54 GMT
#17
On July 23 2015 03:05 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 03:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 23 2015 03:03 opisska wrote:
What does "MaSa tries to play like his namesake" mean?

His real name is Maru Kim


Oh, that's cool. I was for a moment confused that this is another player with the nick "MaSa" - not that the first one was that well-known in the first place, but it was confusing!

Quick guide to the Marus :
KR : JAGW.Maru
NA : MaSa
EU : Morrow
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BaneRiders
Profile Joined August 2013
Sweden3630 Posts
July 22 2015 20:10 GMT
#18
On July 23 2015 04:54 OtherWorld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 03:05 opisska wrote:
On July 23 2015 03:04 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On July 23 2015 03:03 opisska wrote:
What does "MaSa tries to play like his namesake" mean?

His real name is Maru Kim


Oh, that's cool. I was for a moment confused that this is another player with the nick "MaSa" - not that the first one was that well-known in the first place, but it was confusing!

Quick guide to the Marus :
KR : JAGW.Maru
NA : MaSa
EU : Morrow


lmao!! Marrow to beat them all! There can be only one!
Earth, Water, Air and Protoss!
penguinch
Profile Joined October 2014
United States16 Posts
July 24 2015 00:11 GMT
#19
But this Neeb, this Neeb...
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