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padiseal2
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria721 Posts
August 09 2015 11:18 GMT
#341
Sunday already and no trading yet?
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 11:20:41
August 09 2015 11:20 GMT
#342
Can somebody look at my team and tell me how to trade this week. If you don't know how to find it, just look at the top of the rankings, muhahahahahaha.

But seriously, I have no clue how this week is gonna go :S
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
August 09 2015 12:10 GMT
#343
On August 09 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:
Can somebody look at my team and tell me how to trade this week. If you don't know how to find it, just look at the top of the rankings, muhahahahahaha.

But seriously, I have no clue how this week is gonna go :S


Panic --> sOs.

Personally I'd leave it at that, since all the rest are playing and have a decent shot. Hurricane actually has a 5-5 record vs herO. I guess if you're really nervous for that match you could pick up Yoda instead -- but that makes me just as nervous. As for Bbyong he just needs one more win to get a bonus point, at which point he'll be worth even more to trade next week.
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 09 2015 12:39 GMT
#344
On August 09 2015 21:10 grogburg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:
Can somebody look at my team and tell me how to trade this week. If you don't know how to find it, just look at the top of the rankings, muhahahahahaha.

But seriously, I have no clue how this week is gonna go :S


Panic --> sOs.

Personally I'd leave it at that, since all the rest are playing and have a decent shot. Hurricane actually has a 5-5 record vs herO. I guess if you're really nervous for that match you could pick up Yoda instead -- but that makes me just as nervous. As for Bbyong he just needs one more win to get a bonus point, at which point he'll be worth even more to trade next week.


The objection I have with this is that JAGW is up against CJ next week. If sOs hits ByuL or herO (which I favor over him) or Bbyong (which I already have on my team) it forces me to trade again which defaults into -2 trade costs already. And that doesn't even factor in that sOs is one of those expensive players in proleague that I believe can be beaten by himself regardless of who he plays. (I guess my true objection is that I don't like sOs playstyle)
Maybe I should give flash a chance, though Sorry has been looking strong in TvT. At least KT plays against Prime next...
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
August 09 2015 13:03 GMT
#345
On August 09 2015 21:39 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2015 21:10 grogburg wrote:
On August 09 2015 20:20 Big J wrote:
Can somebody look at my team and tell me how to trade this week. If you don't know how to find it, just look at the top of the rankings, muhahahahahaha.

But seriously, I have no clue how this week is gonna go :S


Panic --> sOs.

Personally I'd leave it at that, since all the rest are playing and have a decent shot. Hurricane actually has a 5-5 record vs herO. I guess if you're really nervous for that match you could pick up Yoda instead -- but that makes me just as nervous. As for Bbyong he just needs one more win to get a bonus point, at which point he'll be worth even more to trade next week.


The objection I have with this is that JAGW is up against CJ next week. If sOs hits ByuL or herO (which I favor over him) or Bbyong (which I already have on my team) it forces me to trade again which defaults into -2 trade costs already. And that doesn't even factor in that sOs is one of those expensive players in proleague that I believe can be beaten by himself regardless of who he plays. (I guess my true objection is that I don't like sOs playstyle)
Maybe I should give flash a chance, though Sorry has been looking strong in TvT. At least KT plays against Prime next...


I see what you mean, but I think I stand by my suggestion. I favor sOs over herO for the historical reasons. As for a potential sOs vs. Bbyong match, it could work in your favor: if Bbyong wins this week he'll have the winning streak; trade him for a heavy-hitter on SKT or for Dear, and then sOs breaks his streak for an extra point. Both of our arguments are pretty hypothetical, but I think it could cut either way.

Of course, if you really don't like sOs, don't get him! I guess I'd get Dream instead in that case. Killer TvP and he'll get a bonus point if he beats Zest. The only major issue is that he might not play every week.
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 09 2015 14:39 GMT
#346
R1CH pls
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 14:50:54
August 09 2015 14:44 GMT
#347
@Big J
I have a similar team and it's a bit weird, and will definitely require a fair bit of luck to come out with >15 points. It's safe to say you won't get any points from Hurricane, but he has such little value that trading him is obviously impractical.

I'd say Maru is favored in his matchup, but not by a large amount. I suspect JAGW will lose at least one map, and even if they don't, JAGW should win, so he's a pretty secure 1-pointer at the very least. Same thing with Rogue. Though Rogue is not really favored in his match, and has the chance not to play, he should net at least 1 point, and there are no good options to trade him for.

Bbyong is favored by a small amount in his matchup, but not by a huge amount. His team should still win, however, so he's also a pretty safe 1-pointer.

Trading soO is a bit mixed. He's likely to be played in the following 3 series (against Sbenu, Prime, then CJ), and would very likely win all 3 of his matches against whoever. Your best bet for a trade would probably be herO. Unfortunately, Classic is slightly too expensive, as he would have been an ideal trade imo. But I recommend trading soO off for herO.

Your last player, Blaze/Panic, is not playing this week, and has a surprising high trade value right now. It's safe to say that any player that costs 23 and up is better than Blaze, and so he should definitely be traded off. I would suggest picking someone you know will play the next 3 weeks as well. Dream, although probably the best player that can picked up, may not be played every week, and is not really favored against Zest. Since any KT player is risky for this current week, I personally would recommend sOs as a trade. He should beat jjakji, and will have solid value against future opponents. The alternative would probably be Flash, who is favored against Sorry this week, and should be played every week.

So, in summary, I'd go with Panic -> sOs or Flash ||| soO -> herO.
At least, that's what I plan on doing!
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
August 09 2015 14:50 GMT
#348
On August 09 2015 23:44 Blargh wrote:
@Big J
I have a similar team and it's a bit weird, and will definitely require a fair bit of luck to come out with >15 points. It's safe to say you won't get any points from Hurricane, but he has such little value that trading him is obviously impractical.
I'd say Maru is favored in his matchup, but not by a large amount. I suspect JAGW will lose at least one map, and even if they don't, JAGW should win, so he's a pretty secure 1-pointer at the very least.
Bbyong is favored by a small amount in his matchup, but not by a huge amount. His team should still win, however, so he's also a pretty safe 1-pointer.
Trading soO is a bit mixed. He's likely to be played in the followed 3 series (against Sbenu, Prime, then CJ), and would very likely win all 3 of his matches against whoever. Your best bet for a trade would probably be herO. Unfortunately, Classic is slightly too expensive, as he would have been an ideal trade imo. But I recommend trading soO off for herO.
Your last player, Blaze/Panic, is not playing this week, and has a surprising high trade value right now. It's safe to say that any player that costs 23 and up is better than Blaze, and so he should definitely be traded off. I would suggest picking someone you know will play the next 3 weeks as well. Dream, although probably the best player that can picked up, may not be played. Since any KT player is risky for this current week, I personally would recommend sOs as a trade. He should beat jjakji, and will have solid value against future opponents. The alternative would probably be Flash, who is favored against Sorry this week, and should be played every other week.

So, in summary, I'd go with Panic -> sOs or Flash ||| soO -> herO.
At least, that's what I plan on doing!


hey thanks. Sounds like I should really take sOs (or flash :D )
I can't trade soO though, since he is my captain.
Hurricane is as you say so low value that you don't really get anything off him. Maybe Yoda but then I'm stuck with Yoda...
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
August 09 2015 14:55 GMT
#349
Oh sorry, didn't notice soO as captain. And regarding Hurricane... I do think Yoda is favored in his match, but his team is likely not to win. So, he should only get 3 points, and having to trade Hurricane, that makes it 2 points. Looking at Prime's upcoming matches, I think it's safe to say that he will not get many more points, but you never know. Hurricane at least has potential to net some points from Samsung victories. Either way, not a huge deal. If you aren't going to be trading anyone but Panic/Blaze, then trading Hurricane for Yoda is an alright option, and would probably be slightly better.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
August 09 2015 17:10 GMT
#350
Well there won't be any trading this week i guess
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
August 09 2015 17:45 GMT
#351
They'll open trading when NA will be asleep and EU awaken tomorrow so the balance is preserved
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Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
August 09 2015 18:03 GMT
#352
Trading normally opens around Friday... not this week I guess.
Only thing I know is that I know nothing.
grogburg
Profile Blog Joined December 2014
United States329 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-09 19:15:37
August 09 2015 18:49 GMT
#353
On August 10 2015 02:45 OtherWorld wrote:
They'll open trading when NA will be asleep and EU awaken tomorrow so the balance is preserved


That's why Creator is on every European's anti. Grrrr

Edit: trading is open now.
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
August 09 2015 19:15 GMT
#354
Trading opened ><
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
August 09 2015 19:21 GMT
#355
Traded Curious to get herO and Solar to get Losira.
I hope this works.
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Lizarb
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark307 Posts
August 09 2015 19:38 GMT
#356
Cheers R1CH!
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
August 09 2015 20:07 GMT
#357
so after the great improvements to TL, i cant trade on mobile, so its time to quit this thing for me. not that my team was going anywhere, anyway. gg
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DerEineEben
Profile Joined December 2014
Germany5 Posts
August 09 2015 20:11 GMT
#358
Curious -> herO
Blaze (Panic) -> Maru

Now I'm scared of Maru losing to DongRaeGu and a potential ace against Curious, while Curious will even win against Rogue.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
August 10 2015 00:45 GMT
#359
I'm considering trading Stats for Losira. Stats has been on a losing streak lately, and Losira has it easy this week. Should I proceed?

Also considering trading Curious for herO. Curious has been doing really well lately, but I feel like he won't continue at this pace and herO is a more stable player.
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Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2103 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-10 01:08:05
August 10 2015 01:07 GMT
#360
On August 10 2015 09:45 Brutaxilos wrote:
I'm considering trading Stats for Losira. Stats has been on a losing streak lately, and Losira has it easy this week. Should I proceed?

Also considering trading Curious for herO. Curious has been doing really well lately, but I feel like he won't continue at this pace and herO is a more stable player.

Stats has not been doing well, and has the chance of not even showing (unlikely though, as it requires Sorry to beat Flash or Dream to beat Zest). But I would favor Dark over Stats at the moment. So, if we assume that Dark has a 50% chance to beat Stats, and a 25% chance to not even play, you have a pretty low chance for Stats to even earn 3 points (note, I still think SKT would win the overall series).
Losira has at least a 75% chance, and his team will most certainly win, giving him a lot more value than Stats. The biggest tradeoff comes from Stats having better value in following weeks than Losira, but I'm not even sure if that's true at the moment. So I think trading him for Losira is an alright idea.

And regarding Curious vs herO, I say definitely do it. Curious may not play this week (a 3-0 is not out of the question for JAGW), and I'd say he's roughly 50/50 in terms of odds to win. This gives him quite a bit less value. herO on the other hand, is looking in fine shape, and has a close to guaranteed victory over Hurricane. His team should also win. So he is very likely to do better than Curious would, and has higher value in the following weeks since he's always going to be played.

So I'd say go with both trades. But know that there is always the chance that both players end up playing, winning, or even winning an ace! But that's pretty unlikely.
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