EPTGreatest SC2 Player of All Time: Bonus Edition - Page 5
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Rocket-Bear
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showBanquo
Sweden182 Posts
MVP is a legemd and an innovator with great results. But few would argue that Life is insanely strong - he has a ton of GSLs and foreign wins and is at his peak the strongest player of all time. for the last ~3 years he has been either 1) the undisputed best player in the world (around the time where he beat mvp to be the first royal roader, or recently in the beginning of 2015, after winning the WCS and every other tournamnet) 2) one of the best players in the world, maybe losing every now-and-then and not getting into the Ro8 3) In a slump (the year before his WCS-win, i.e. 2014) but still one of the top-5 zergs in the world and a force to be reconned with, even though not quite the monster we hope for. Admittedly I am a huge Life fan, but due to nostalgia and taken into account the creativity. mechanics and fighting spirit of Mvp (remember that one time when Naniwa was actually the favorite vs Mvp in GSL due mvps injured wrists?) I still (very reluctantly, as I think life would easily win a Bo15 vs him) would say that mvp is the greatest player of the WoL/HotS era. if (when) life wins another GSL he will cement his place as the best SC2 player this far. But Mvps preparation and creativity is legendary. To conclude this rant (if anyone took the time to read it) Mvp and Life is at least one level above everyone else. Taeja looked like a beast - but never proved himself in the GSL the highest level tournament - especially at that time), MC, just like Mvp and Life, has shown ridiculous consistency over a long period of time and has got great results in the GSL, MMA Polt and MMA has been amazing at their peaks and has shown great consistency/come-back-power and are definitely well-worth a place in the hall of fame ... BUT tl;dr Mvp and Life stand above everyone else. They are 1.0 and 1.1 the others are 2 and beyond | ||
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showBanquo
Sweden182 Posts
MVP is a legemd and an innovator with great results. But few would argue that Life is insanely strong - he has a ton of GSLs and foreign wins and is at his peak the strongest player of all time. for the last ~3 years he has been either 1) the undisputed best player in the world (around the time where he beat mvp to be the first royal roader, or recently in the beginning of 2015, after winning the WCS and every other tournamnet) 2) one of the best players in the world, maybe losing every now-and-then and not getting into the Ro8 3) In a slump (the year before his WCS-win, i.e. 2014) but still one of the top-5 zergs in the world and a force to be reconned with, even though not quite the monster we hope for. Admittedly I am a huge Life fan, but due to nostalgia and taken into account the creativity. mechanics and fighting spirit of Mvp (remember that one time when Naniwa was actually the favorite vs Mvp in GSL due mvps injured wrists?) I still (very reluctantly, as I think life would easily win a Bo15 vs him) would say that mvp is the greatest player of the WoL/HotS era. if (when) life wins another GSL he will cement his place as the best SC2 player this far. But Mvps preparation and creativity is legendary. To conclude this rant (if anyone took the time to read it) Mvp and Life is at least one level above everyone else. Taeja looked like a beast - but never proved himself in the GSL the highest level tournament - especially at that time), MC, just like Mvp and Life, has shown ridiculous consistency over a long period of time and has got great results in the GSL, MMA Polt and MMA has been amazing at their peaks and has shown great consistency/come-back-power and are definitely well-worth a place in the hall of fame ... BUT tl;dr Mvp and Life stand above everyone else. They are 1.0 and 1.1 the others are 2 and beyond | ||
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showBanquo
Sweden182 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On July 01 2015 09:31 showBanquo wrote: also what did stephano do that would put him above puma and naniwa? Stephano won more tournaments than Naniwa and was strategically the second most important Zerg to have ever lived. Of course I haven't depacked everything they have ever done, so maybe if I did I'd be surprised at what I found. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Winning major trophies matter. And Parting hasn't done that. Those Top 5 Protoss have all won majors consistently more than Parting. He's good and plays entertainingly, but he's no winner material (at least, not yet). Edit: herO is arguably in top 5 Protoss. But point here being that Parting clearly isn't, anyway. | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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swarminfestor
Malaysia2449 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3481 Posts
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Anc13nt
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midhigh
49 Posts
On March 03 2019 04:00 Anc13nt wrote: I think it's time for an LotV version at least. Definitely Stats would be at the top of it though but good argument could be made for Inno, Maru, Rogue, Serral and maybe Dark. Dark actually needs to win something, Anything  )) | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
1)  Stats2)  Dark3)  TY4) Maru5) Bogus6) Serral 7) Solar8) Rogue9) Zest10) soOChoosing between TY, Maru and Bogus is tough. I think TY has the edge for greater consistency. edit: ack, forgot about soO ><. ByuN out. | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On March 03 2019 05:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: LotV GOATs would be interesting at this point. Probably something like... 1) Stats2) Dark3) TY4) Maru5) Bogus6) Serral 7) Rogue8) Solar9) Zest10) ByuNChoosing between TY, Maru and Bogus is tough. I think TY has the edge for greater consistency. Would probably put Zest above Solar, because his peak in early LotV was so high and the most consistent period of being at the top either of the two had across LotV. Very inconsistent both of these guys. But overall that list isn't too objectionable. Wondering if ByuN is too low though. | ||
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Charoisaur
Germany16044 Posts
On March 03 2019 05:23 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: LotV GOATs would be interesting at this point. Probably something like... 1) Stats2) Dark3) TY4) Maru5) Bogus6) Serral 7) Solar8) Rogue9) Zest10) ByuNChoosing between TY, Maru and Bogus is tough. I think TY has the edge for greater consistency. I'd have Maru and Bogus over TY and Dark but I can see why you'd do it differently if you value consistency over trophies. Also I'd put Rogue over Serral and Solar is too high imo | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On March 03 2019 05:31 Charoisaur wrote: I'd have Maru and Bogus over TY and Dark but I can see why you'd do it differently if you value consistency over trophies. Also I'd put Rogue over Serral and Solar is too high imo I 100% agree that Stats is number just through his sheer consistency, idk if I would have Dark #2 but there is at least an argument for it | ||
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Elentos
55566 Posts
On March 03 2019 05:36 starkiller123 wrote: I 100% agree that Stats is number just through his sheer consistency, idk if I would have Dark #2 but there is at least an argument for it I mean really we can hardly even call Dark and Stats consistent anymore at this point. We basically take it for granted by now that they show up in the top 4 of big tournaments every few months. Stats even had a time where he was there every month. | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Premier titles? Earnings? Stats has been the most consistent player in LoTV, he could very well be #1; both Maru, Rogue and guess-who should be way higher on this list. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On March 03 2019 07:05 Xain0n wrote: What would this based on? Premier titles? Earnings? Stats has been the most consistent player in LoTV, he could very well be #1; both Maru, Rogue and guess-who should be way higher on this list. INnoVation, glad we agree | ||
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Xain0n
Italy3963 Posts
Not Inno of all people, no. We already had a list for HoTS. | ||
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deacon.frost
Czech Republic12129 Posts
On March 03 2019 07:05 Xain0n wrote: What would this based on? Premier titles? Earnings? Stats has been the most consistent player in LoTV, he could very well be #1; both Maru, Rogue and guess-who should be way higher on this list. No? LotV is here 4 years now. Neither Maru, nor Rogue no guess-who shouldn't be higher. The list is quite spot on. On March 03 2019 07:18 Xain0n wrote: Not Inno of all people, no. We already had a list for HoTS. Innovation was the best Terran of 2017... won GSL vs the World, GSL, SSL. While he had bad 2018(and part of the 2016), he was a beast. | ||
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